Sheikah

100% agree with you on this. I got maybe 6 hours into the first one a while ago and haven't gone back. Seems an incredibly overrated game to me. Man, I felt the same way too. Totes agree on the story. Complete cobblers, and it really hurts it.

IMO, there should be only one topic. It makes no sense why people are talking about the exact same thing in two different topics. Not by coincidence either; it's a topic made for exclusively talk about that game...twice. Having multiple topics just splits discussion, which for a relatively small forum is quite a bad thing. People who might have otherwise engaged with each other simply won't. It also leads to people staying in only one forum and formation of these sorts of clubs. I can guess who will post in the Nintendo forums pretty much exclusively, and vice versa. For a multiplatform game I think one topic should go in the general gaming topic, because it can then cover other consoles and Nintendo games. Then if people want to discuss it they have to go there.

Does this mean people think the NX is going to compete on power now? I thought many thought that was out of the question? Or at least for half the gen.

Yeah, it's a little worrying. I touched on this in the now closed topic but if you remember the Ni No Kuni situation (which seems pretty close to this one), the DS version never got a release over here, only the PS3 version. That was also with a much more popular system that wasn't at the end of its life. Granted, DQ is a bigger name and DQIX came out over here, but it may not be guaranteed given the lower popularity of DQ over here. I'd like it to come out on all systems though as more sales of DQ outside Japan can only be a good thing in convincing S-E to release more of them here. Dat PS4 experience is going to be the real deal though, I honestly can't wait. DQVIII was freaking immense.

If they do what NNK did, the 3DS version won't come out here at all. And that was on the much more popular DS, and not at the end of its life cycle either...

No I didn't. I said that the developers themselves said it would be going to home console. Which they did! I said I thought it was coming to PS4 though but it seemed some people weren't having any of it. Just makes so much sense given KH3, Persona, FFXV (and XIV) are PS4 bound. I can see it going to NX after the other versions to be honest. A shame as I can see the same thing happening as what went down with the ports on Wii U.

Yeeeees. YES! Fucking knew this was coming to PS4, shame Wii isn't here for the customary 'I told you so' when he kept saying it would go to Wii U instead. About time! So glad that I can enjoy a proper DQ game again in glorious HD! With a lack of Wii U announcement that again goes to show the technical limitations, since they'd probably have to work at 3 different graphical levels. Or just the unpopularity of the thing. I wonder when the NX version would be ready? Surely this game would be coming out before the NX? I worry it'll be another Wii U situation where the ports come long after they've been available elsewhere.

Oh does it? Don't remember that on PS3. I think it'd be better if it didn't actually.

Kinda sad, isn't it? You went through that together but will never know who that person was or have the chance to befriend or play a different game with them afterwards.

Sweet man. I'll be on from somewhere between that time and 8. Comes with a Shadow Price. Dat be old school. *pats own Shadow Price*

@Shorty @Zell you guys up for Trials tomorrow?

Hang on a minute, that's not true at all. IIRC Rummy mentioned that as Diageo called somebody a shit stirrer, which is probably towing the line as it's pretty much name calling. Using the F word to say part of the fucking Mafia or some such (e.g. calling schemes bullshit) has no name calling or personal element to it. It's just language man. No one is frothing at their screens as they type here. Do you honestly never speak to people who casually swear?

How was that condescending? Ronnie was causing a stir in the topic that he'd just been unbanned from over Kav's opinions when he could have just left it be. It's the same thing we've seen over and over and I didn't want to see it happen again. Sometimes a bit of outsider perspective can help. It's a shame that both you and Sprout are making this personal. I'm here to play this game; nothing more. Bringing off-topic quotes in and commenting on language used in a totally impersonal way is just dragging the mood down.

Well that's a pretty condescending post. You know nothing about me and don't assume that because I swear, I'm "frustrated to the point of swearing". I often swear but it's just part of the way I speak. Swearing on occasion can be a decent way of placing emphasis. As long as you're not telling people to go fuck themselves, instead using language as a means to emphasise occasionally then I don't see why you're getting on your high horse about it. Do you really take such offence whenever an F-bomb is dropped casually into language? Come on man, don't be that guy.

Oh I have no doubt he's a power mimic. I just very much doubt what he claims you are is true. What's really telling is that neither of you have tried to investigate Diageo yet are trying to push through a lynch on him.

Well there's more water-tight logic - it's confirmed now. Jonnas hath decree Gamemaster status upon Sprout, apparently. Because Sprout cannot at all be part of the fucking Mafia. Does anyone not notice a considerable amount of horseshit here? So DuD is an alignment investigator who did not bother targeting the guy he suspected may be Mafia. Sprout apparently both role cops and uses their abilities (which seems rather OP to me) and used alignment investigation on...Rummy? Out of interest, does using your abilities get routed through a magic 8 ball? I am actually near enough 100% convinced Rummy is town now, as I don't think they'd want to link themselves to another scumnag. Oh hai Rummy, you're town. Ohmagawd he's right! Dat guy is so what he says he is.

Ha. Must be guilty because they roleblocked a claimed alignment investigator? You're having a laugh, right? I was a roleblocker last night. Does it surprise you that I roleblocked the guy I wanted to lynch? What's more surprising is that you tried to target me and not Diageo despite trying to lynch him. Calling bollocks here. Come on guys. Vote: DuD

Many of the owners aren't satisfied with the Wii U but that's nothing to do with how long it has been out. Also factor in that the Wii U took quite a while to gain traction as it was overpriced and didn't get many of its big selling titles for a while. I'd bet you a lot of Wii U owners don't feel like they've had their console long or got much use out of it. I sure havent. Pleasing the people who don't currently own the Wii U is more important in terms of turning it around. Pleasing the hardcore Wii U adopters is not as important as they will buy the next one regardless, and there's not many of them; not saying they're not important by any means, just saying that your thinking along the lines of 'they can release on day X to satisfy the Wii U customers' is a little off. They need to hold off and reposition their console as a contender, ergo the waiting and technical parity. They need to draw in people who buy the other consoles.

I think the problem here is that kav has a valid point but you are essentially trying to topple it by pointing out that it's a small issue in your eyes. To some people, 24 hours can constitute all the time they might have during a weekend (for me, this weekend that would certainly have been the case). As always around here, rather than telling people they shouldn't be getting worked up, why not try ignoring them if you feel differently? Clearly it does bother some people more than you, but why does that fact itself bother you?

It's not a case of how long the Wii U has been on the market, it's a case of how long the competition has been on the market. The PS4/X1 are fairly new and nobody has the feeling that they need a new system yet. As we saw with the PS4, X360 owners can and did jump ship; we've seen that before with N64 and PS1, Xbox 360 and PS3. Customers will move if they see something better, but usually at the start of the next generation, not halfway through. Nintendo can and should aim for system parity and work with third parties to get their games. Technical parity is a must to be even able to get them games in the long term as well. Releasing consoles roughly around the same time is also important in terms of getting these games throughout the full length of the generation. It's no coincidence that X1 and PS4 released at practically the same time.

I'm thinking more along the lines of how it fits in with the competition - I can easily see them going another 5. It'll be the middle of the generation.

Isn't it already pretty much a given that the NX will probably release within the next couple of years (considering their winding down at E3 and no Zelda)? I agree that it's a mistake to do that.

I reckon you won't need Plus to play with the online elements. You bump into people so infrequently and naming planets you come across them (or impacting solar systems for others) seems quite important within the game. I also get the impression that they would want to gather stats to make it seem impressive - e.g. to boast about the number of planets visited or named. I'm sure you can play it offline too, but I would think they'd want to encourage online. Just what I think, though.

Yeah man, thanks for having us over. Definitely up for staying at least 1 night if you'll have me!

It's only pointless because you aren't getting it. And I really, really cannot believe you picked up on the £1 thing as if I am actually suggesting to you that they are making a pound. The amount of profit they make, they do not consider worthwhile pursuing. Straight up comparisons to other companies are daft because they are not those companies. What might be considered good profit to another company might not be to them. For instance, they might make much more money doing something else, and have only limited staff/resources to allocate, such that localising is not considered more profitable than doing the other thing to them. You need a bit of perspective.