James McGeachie Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 There only are 2 versions of Downhill Jam, DS and Wii and the DS CANNOT do texture filtering, these are Wii screens....Wii EXCLUSIVE screens, no port from current gen. I'm starting to get it now, when developers make exclusive Wii versions of their franchises, it'll be with cheap small development teams who can only work at low level. This looks like an n64 game, which is hilarious, but hopefully it'll improve. Those screens are actually a bit higher than the game resolution so they might not be quite representative. At least the draw distance is decent though.
nekunando Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 ..Tony Hawks has never been renowned for its amazing graphics though.. has it? ..and I know many gamecube games have looked better than that but its only screenshots of one unfinished game so I'm not gonna worry or cry about the graphics :P ..it might be really fun to play, so who cares if it looks like dog food.. after its been through a dog..
Owen Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 I find that offensive Mr. Predjudist-face... Then aaaagain, you are Nintendork and everyone in the forums get mad at you for your craziness, so I'll just stay quiet and accept your mean little comment. I like Americans! Did i hear someone say screenshots? Has anyone got any screenshots of this game?
James McGeachie Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 http://www.e3insider.com/_media/?type=image&format=fullSize&source=gp_Launching_In_San_Francisco.jpg The ones that are a closer resolution to what it'll actually be displaying at look a bit better, the other ones are blown up I think.
system_error Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 It should be released 2006 this means they still have a few moments but if Nintendo shows footage like this tomorrow it won't win them any points. Inferior graphics are okay for me but not on this level. You can't show something and think people won't notice/complain. Look what happend when RARE showed the first screenshots of PDZ - all hell break loose for a reason. Those screenshots are exactly what MS + Sony (fanboys) need. I doubt that if Activision shows both games tomorrow (Wii + 360/PS3) people will overlook that one game looks a lot worse than the others.
James McGeachie Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 I honestly think the reason this game looks so horrificly bad is just that they have a small team working on it while their main Tony Hawk team focuses on the 360 and PS3 titles. This looks worse than the very first Tony Hawk games on PS2, which means that obviousy the shitness has nothing to do with the system's power.
Owen Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Well like i keep saying, i don't mind what graphical power is used, it just has to look good. This doesn't. This looks rushed. I'm very dissapointed.
Pyxis Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 I didnt realise that the Wii was going to be less powerful than the Gamecube....... Im actually a bit disgusted. I need to see Mario....
HXC Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Whoops I made a mistake earlier, this is infact being developed by Toys For Bob, rather than Neversoft. TFB are responcible for such classics as Disneys Xtreme Skate Adventure and also for having one of the worst and unfunctional websites in the world.
system_error Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Okay everybody calm down - Activsion was kind enough to let a awesome developer team handle the Wii version: http://www.toysforbob.com Look what they have done so far and then you will understand that those screenshots actually look good compared on the stuff they did before. So far very good developer support from Activision. I hope Nintendo refuses the seal of quality for that game and instead seal it away. I hope the other developers also let inexperienced developer handle their games. I can't wait for Call of Duty 3 developed by ToysForGeorge... Even lousy, sloppy ports now look and sound better than this. /irony energy depleted
Teppo Holmqvist Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 /irony energy depleted If you had actually played PC-games in early 90's, you would know that Toys for Bob is very respected development house. Unfortunately quality of games dropped pretty fast after Star Control II.
James McGeachie Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 I didnt realise that the Wii was going to be less powerful than the Gamecube....... Im actually a bit disgusted. I need to see Mario.... MORE POWER DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY EQUAL BETTER VISUALS. For fucks sake there's so many ignorant people here, yes this game looks like shit, but that's because it's being made by a small developer with a low budget obviously. In a case like that, a game cant possibly look "next gen" because making a next gen game is FAR from easy and requires a shitload of work and manpower. This isn't representative of Wii's power, but it is representative of the approach some developers are going to take to developing for Wii, getting smaller teams to make exclusive titles for it while their main teams (the only ones capable of making games that look "next gen") focus on the other systems. Hence why games that are actually made by more experienced development teams, like one of Ubisoft's better studios working on Red Steel, actually look pretty good.
system_error Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 MORE POWER DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY EQUAL BETTER VISUALS. For fucks sake there's so many ignorant people here, yes this game looks like shit, but that's because it's being made by a small developer with a low budget obviously. In a case like that, a game cant possibly look "next gen" because making a next gen game is FAR from easy and requires a shitload of work and manpower. This isn't representative of Wii's power, but it is representative of the approach some developers are going to take to developing for Wii, getting smaller teams to make exclusive titles for it while their main teams focus on the other systems. Activison is not that small - it shows how much effort/faith they are willing to put into the Wii. This is a sign that they are not commited to Wii. True more power does not mean better graphics every time but it surely does not mean worse graphics hehe! If you had actually played PC-games in early 90's, you would know that Toys for Bob is very respected development house. Unfortunately quality of games dropped pretty fast after Star Control II. ...now children can make better games with 3D Game Studio than them. Also in the early 90s graphics did not really matter at all but what they are delievering here is beyond the quality of a fanmade game made by a single person. This game looks like as if Activision said you have a week, 2 pizzas and a N64 now make a "WOW" game.
James McGeachie Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Activison is not that small - it shows how much effort/faith they are willing to put into the Wii. This is a sign that they are not commited to Wii. True more power does not mean better graphics every time but it surely does not mean worse graphics hehe!. Ummm..."Activision" aren't making this game, that's not how game development works. Most game developers are made up of lots of smaller development teams and actually quite often farm out their games to smaller developers, which is happening in this case. This game is being made by "Toys for Bob", the other Tony Hawk games are made by "Neversoft" although most of the handheld games were made by Viscarious Visions or something.
pedrocasilva Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 chill out people... it's not that bad... notice that the resolution on the big pics is the right one, standard definition with 640 pixels width... also there's a big diference in consistence on the pics, the ones with people holding a controller look mostly better... there's some colision issues but it's not like the game will come out tomorow... also Sonic for PS3 and X360 that Sega shown also had colision issues of this magnitude and I saw no one complaining. some textures are downright ugly but let's give these guys a chance... look at the threes in the third image (the first big one, without people playing on the side)... right. they don't look bad and it's a game supposed to be quick where you shouldn't have time to notice those details.
Hellfire Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Chill people chill. It' clear that they're being lazy, it's obvious that they can have better graphics those textures are worse than GC, now you may be more pessimistic than DCK even, but I doubt wii is actually worse than GC. And dimetrix shame on you for saying it looks PSP.
Demuwan Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Chill people chill. It' clear that they're being lazy, it's obvious that they can have better graphics those textures are worse than GC, now you may be more pessimistic than DCK even, but I doubt wii is actually worse than GC. And dimetrix shame on you for saying it looks PSP. Thats cause it does look PSP. Its gonna look like SHIT next to MP3 thats for sure. Damm that game will own. HARD.
Nintendork Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA Literally what a piece of crap. (PS1 graphics) Definitely not buying it now, they're a joke. Such the copy of SSX bar, it has the exact same navigation bar, and even a boost bar in the same style as SSX. It's basically SSX on skateboards.
nekunando Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 ..um.. looking closer at the pictures.. why do the controllers seem to have black buttons..?
Hellfire Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Thats cause it does look PSP. Its gonna look like SHIT next to MP3 thats for sure. Damm that game will own. HARD. You must be blind or something, I'm not even going to bother showing you comparison pics.
Demuwan Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 You must be blind or something, I'm not even going to bother showing you comparison pics. Don't try defending that shit. Im a hardcore fanboy and even i will admit it looks TERRIBLE. Next Gen more like LAST GEN.
Nintendork Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 Hahaha I love how everyone was defending this shit when I wasted into it before the screens came. Now everyone is like "yeah that's pretty shit" There are moments in Tony Hawks 2 (PSone) which genuinely looked better than this, I shit you not.. they were few and far between but it looked better. With regard to Toys for Bob I think this could be a great step back in the door for them and developping games.. with this in their portfolio and experience with the Wii controller they could probably get on board with some more indie teams and I hope they don't waste the next 5 years developping another Tony Hawks downhill Jam game.
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