Julius Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Hopefully games games games! A big launch title and actual first party support in its first year please. Man, I really hope so! Definitely have the feeling that the focus during their touted event is going to be entirely on games and not necessarily on the system itself. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the console, launch date, and price were revealed in the week or so leading up to that event to allow for that, or if they instead just got that out of the way in the first 5-10 minutes. Feel like it would be overshadowed a bit if they went with the latter option, though. I'm hoping we see a good amount. One or two exclusive titles in that first two or three months that make up the launch window. I imagine there'll potentially be something from Square Enix (FFVII Remake Pt. 2 tease? FFXVI tease?) and Capcom (Resident Evil), and probably some other Japanese third parties who are on great terms with PlayStation that might want to show something off here, even if it's only a tease for their own event. Way too many rumours being thrown around about PlayStation being on friendly terms with Konami lately, don't want to get my hopes up but man, what a dream that outcome would be. Games like Spider-Man 2, God of War 2, Horizon 2, etc., are probably like Q4 2021 at the earliest (and that's being optimistic given the current state of affairs), but it wouldn't surprise me if they have showings for some of those games that are obviously a while off, but can demonstrate the PS5's capabilities and serve as a promise of things to come on the system. It lines up pretty well, with Horizon released Q1 2017, GoW Q2 2018, and Spider-Man Q3 2018, so I think demonstrations like the God of War E3 2016 reveal/demo are somewhat realistic. Again, though, wouldn't be surprised if they scrapped any potential release windows for those games and kept it vague, given COVID-19's impact on their development. Either way, I'm very excited to see what's in store, as it looks like we all are. Fingers crossed everything goes to plan for them!
Ronnie Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Julius said: Games like Spider-Man 2, God of War 2, Horizon 2, etc., are probably like Q4 2021 at the earliest Seriously? I think those are much further along, especially Horizon 2, that has to be their launch game surely.
Julius Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Seriously? I think those are much further along, especially Horizon 2, that has to be their launch game surely. I mean, optimistically, sure, I'd hope so. But Guerrilla always gave me the impression that they're very, very driven to push the Decima engine forward in a lot of ways, and I suppose it depends entirely on their ambitions with this game. If they add flying (as @Goron_3 mentioned could be the case) and climbing mechanics, and it takes place in an entirely new area, then I'm not too sure. But hey, I'd love for it to come out at launch, don't get me wrong! But I do think they need to space them out, because they don't have the need to burn all of their first party exclusives in that first year - they're still flying high, and I think this could be more of a "you're investing in this console this Christmas for these games, whether they release this year, the next, or after that".
Goron_3 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 51 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Seriously? I think those are much further along, especially Horizon 2, that has to be their launch game surely. I think we've reached a point where AAA titles now taken around 3 years to make, beginning to end, at the bare minimum. That's before you take into account that Horizon 2 will be launching on new hardware. I guess the new hardware thing could go either way. It could pose additional challenges or it could actually make things easier as they aren't hindered by the consoles limitations as much. I definitely think either Spiderman or Horizon 2 will be coming in year 1, but not both. Of course, then there's also the covid situation, which will no doubt delay games to an extent.
Ronnie Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 I'd just assume that a lot of the hard work has already been done with the systems, world building, storyline etc in place for these sequels so three years sounds about right. Maybe it'll come in March 2021, 4 years after the original but I'd be surprised if they let Halo + Game Pass on Xbox steal the launch spotlight. I think a big chunk of these two console markets, the COD and FIFA type casual gamers, are pretty fickle and have no problem jumping ship at a moment's notice. Especially when something like Game Pass is so much more marketable and attractive than 'fast SSD' to the average consumer.
Goron_3 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ronnie said: I'd just assume that a lot of the hard work has already been done with the systems, world building, storyline etc in place for these sequels so three years sounds about right. Maybe it'll come in March 2021, 4 years after the original but I'd be surprised if they let Halo + Game Pass on Xbox steal the launch spotlight. I think a big chunk of these two console markets, the COD and FIFA type casual gamers, are pretty fickle and have no problem jumping ship at a moment's notice. Especially when something like Game Pass is so much more marketable and attractive than 'fast SSD' to the average consumer. I honestly think Microsoft are making a big mistake by making Halo a cross gen game. It should be their system seller that pushes the boundaries of the new console in a way that the older consoles couldn't do. We're getting incredible leaps in CPU and SSD speeds and yet their flagship title is also going to release on Xbox One S :/
Sheikah Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Ronnie said: I'd just assume that a lot of the hard work has already been done with the systems, world building, storyline etc in place for these sequels so three years sounds about right. Maybe it'll come in March 2021, 4 years after the original but I'd be surprised if they let Halo + Game Pass on Xbox steal the launch spotlight. I think a big chunk of these two console markets, the COD and FIFA type casual gamers, are pretty fickle and have no problem jumping ship at a moment's notice. Especially when something like Game Pass is so much more marketable and attractive than 'fast SSD' to the average consumer. I don't think Halo has anywhere near the pull it once had, so I don't think Sony have much to worry about there. Also you'd be surprised, Sony has a big following in Europe - we're talking 2:1 and 3:1 PS4 to X1 sales in many territories. I can imagine most European gamers will want to stay with Sony to carry on playing the games they like. Edited May 15, 2020 by Sheikah
Goron_3 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Sheikah said: I don't think Halo has anywhere near the pull it once had, so I don't think Sony have much to worry about there. Also you'd be surprised, Sony has a big following in Europe - we're talking 2:1 and 3:1 PS4 to X1 sales in many territories. I can imagine most European gamers will want to stay with Sony to carry on playing the games they like. Pretty much. The most consoles Microsoft ever shifted was with the 360, which despite all the momentum it had over PS3 still finished last in that generation, was outsold every year in terms of WW sales and for the final years of its life needed a gimmick like Kinect to give it some additional momentum.
Julius Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Next Level Racing, a professional racing cockpit manufacturer that is an official PlayStation licensee (they make cockpits for better simulation in driving games), has potentially just leaked the existence of Gran Turismo 7, and revealed that it's coming this year. Well, there's your graphical showcase to try to match Forza 8. I haven't played a GT in a very long time, so I'd happily take this.
Goron_3 Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 GT7 would be a fantastic launch game, especially as the series has such global appeal.
Julius Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Next Level Racing said initially that it was an internal mockup, and then shortly after posted this update on Instagram, stating that it was a mockup found on the internet. A mockup that I'm honestly having a hard time locating anywhere on the internet. No "insiders" have commented on this, either, which is very odd. Looks like they're just trying to save face (which lets face it, they would have to do regardless), and are doing a pretty poor job of it.
Ronnie Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 There really is nowhere to hide for gaming devs and publishers in the social media age. It's really sad in a lot of ways.
Ashley Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 They put it on social media. It was fair that the question was asked if that meant a game was coming. "Misrepresented by the media" is a mendacious response really given they put out a logo for GT7 and people assumed that meant GT7 was a thing knowing the company could feasibly be involved. 2 2
Goafer Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Well I for one am shocked that GT7 exists and could not possibly have predicted that a game that already has 6 main titles in the series would receive a 7th had they not posted that image. A truly revolutionary leak. I'm taking the rest of the day off to recover. Edited May 21, 2020 by Goafer 1
Julius Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Happenstance said: Another leak Looks like the tweet has been taken down in favour of a new one saying Gran Turismo Sport instead, so in case anyone didn't see it: Very interesting time when PlayStation's silence could very slowly become a problem. Even if there's zero truth to GT7 potentially being leaked by Next Level Racing and PlayStation Brazil, it does feel like expectations are slowly starting to be set for launch which are out of their control/potentially through mistakes. It will be interesting to see if there's anything else like this which gets flagged ahead of their rumoured June event.
Julius Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 The PS5 website has been updated for the first time in months... Quote Lightning speed Harness the power of a custom CPU, GPU, and SSD with Integrated I/O that rewrite the rules of what a PlayStation console can do. Stunning games Marvel at incredible graphics and experience new PS5™ features. Breathtaking immersion Discover a deeper gaming experience with support for haptic feedback, adaptive triggers and 3D Audio technology. That potential June 4th event is looking a little more likely, especially given that IGN's Summer of Gaming is scheduled to kick off on the same day, and...they have absolutely nothing lined up for it? Curious. Soon™.
drahkon Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 I'll believe it when it's actually Sony saying: "There will be an event."
Ronnie Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Please please please let the fake silhouetted crowd be back Edited May 27, 2020 by Ronnie
Julius Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, drahkon said: I'll believe it when it's actually Sony saying: "There will be an event." Oh yeah, for sure. Like Schreier and Grubb (who has been carrying the news torch for a June event since, like, March?) said, definitely could be subject to change with everything going on at the moment. I'll be very surprised if we don't see an event by the end of June, though. It's very different to the Switch and the quick turnaround there I suppose because, like it or not, PlayStation are being seen as competing for mindshare with Xbox (which, lets face it, they are). Fingers crossed for an event sooner rather than later! 22 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Please please please let the fake silhouetted crowd be back I'd find this hilarious to be honest
Goron_3 Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Next week would make sense and seems to tie in what several people have reported for a while. I don't think we'll see a release date or price but I imagine they'll show off the console and some launch window games. I'm just HOPING the team that made the superb Shadow of the Colossus remake are working on a Demon Soul's remake. Of course, in terms of new games, I'm sure we'll see games that use the SSD to its fullest potential. A glimpse of the world in Horizon 2 would be great.
Julius Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, Goron_3 said: I don't think we'll see a release date or price but I imagine they'll show off the console and some launch window games. I'm just HOPING the team that made the superb Shadow of the Colossus remake are working on a Demon Soul's remake. Of course, in terms of new games, I'm sure we'll see games that use the SSD to its fullest potential. A glimpse of the world in Horizon 2 would be great. Unfortunately I don't think we'll get a price either, just because I see them and Xbox getting caught in a silent, Cold War-like price-matching contest which could go on for a while. I want to say that we could get the release date, because it wouldn't have much bearing on their competition seeing as they're likely to be close to matching one another and we know they're likely launching the same month, but so much is in flux right now that it just seems like a bad idea to do so. Plus, without the price, there's no point in telling us that release date, because we won't be able to pre-order anyways. In terms of games, I feel like Horizon 2 is probably the most likely to be the game present of all the big first party studios, considering how much time has passed since Zero Dawn, and if we see Aloy flying on some of these robots and using climbing it will feel like we're being showed an experience which is next-gen, and not possibly on current systems. I'm in a weird spot with the rumoured Demon's Souls remake: would like it as a jumping in point for myself with From Software games, but I don't feel like it's necessarily a blockbuster title in the way that something like Breath of the Wild was at launch (not necessary I suppose, but definitely hasn't got the mass market appeal some other games could potentially have), and more importantly - again, correct me if I'm wrong as someone who hasn't played the game before - I'm having a hard time thinking about how a remake of a PS3 game could be shown to do something not thought possible on the PS4, hence why it is (presumably) a PS5 exclusive. I loved Bluepoint's work on 2018's Shadow of the Colossus, but yeah, just think it's potentially a weird move for them if it is true and is a launch title. Cautiously optimistic we could see a tease for God of War II or Spider-Man 2 at some point, even if we don't see either land until Q3 2021 at the earliest, just as a signal of intent to get fans to buy into the ecosystem. Japan Studio is a potential wildcard, and then I suppose it depends what third party publishers and development studios are doing, but Capcom have certainly liked showing things off exclusively for PlayStation before. That all being said, I think they just need one big first party game to hook people in, get people talking, and show off what the PS5 is capable of, and I'm having a tough time thinking what that could realistically be besides Horizon 2.
Ronnie Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) I think they owe their fans a huge show to be honest, after the near radio silence this past year or two, not to mention cancelling their PSX fan events for the last couple years. Throw in no big first party reveals since 2017 (I still find that pretty crazy) and I'd say showing something of Horizon 2, God of War 2, Spider Man 2 and possibly something like a new Uncharted is an absolute must at this point. Edited May 27, 2020 by Ronnie
Sheikah Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 49 minutes ago, Ronnie said: I think they owe their fans a huge show to be honest, after the near radio silence this past year or two, not to mention cancelling their PSX fan events for the last couple years. Throw in no big first party reveals since 2017 (I still find that pretty crazy) and I'd say showing something of Horizon 2, God of War 2, Spider Man 2 and possibly something like a new Uncharted is an absolute must at this point. I don't know about that, all they needed last time was this XD 1
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