Dcubed Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Yeah but chances are it'll be done like this: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323e.pdf So this rather than a big reveal, just so they can have it in the financial foresight for the year. Then they'll have a proper reveal on their own terms. Yup. That's exactly it. DS, 3DS, Wii. They all got the same treatment when they were initially unveiled (and the two handhelds were even pre-announced in March, then given full reveals at E3 and I suspect that the same will be true once again for the NX Handheld this year)
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Yeah but chances are it'll be done like this: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323e.pdf So this rather than a big reveal, just so they can have it in the financial foresight for the year. Then they'll have a proper reveal on their own terms. Lol please tell me that wasn't a real letter...
david.dakota Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 @Serebii is absolutely right, investors might get a very vague outline of NX in a throwaway document but the grander vision will be presented to the public. Though, how that public announcement is made is up for debate but, personally speaking, I think they need to take everything they've done before to create some massive hype; a big press conference at E3, detailing the system, services and overview of upcoming games, followed throughout the week by regular game-specific Directs and Treehouse Live content and then, closer to launch a global - well, events in Tokyo, New York and London - Spaceworld Events in September revealing firm plans for release, public play times etc. Relaunching Spaceworld as a public play event for NX would be awesome and would likely gain wider publicity; footage of queues of fans lining up on the news, soundbites etc... in my opinion, that'd be a great thing for publicity and lead right up to launch.
Serebii Posted February 6, 2016 Author Posted February 6, 2016 Even Wii U was technically revealed in a release like this https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/110425_4e.pdf This was before E3. So yeah, that's how it is going to be.
Goron_3 Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Yeah but chances are it'll be done like this: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323e.pdf So this rather than a big reveal, just so they can have it in the financial foresight for the year. Then they'll have a proper reveal on their own terms. 'On their own terms'. Yeah I hear someone is holding a gun to their head at the moment... Anyway, they announced the Wiimote a year before the console launched and the 3DS got 7 months from E3 to console launch (Japan) so I imagine that they'll do a reveal sooner rather than later. I doubt they'll leave it any later from a business/common sense perspective. March/April is a good bet depending on how 'on-track' they are with the console launch. Oh, and Wii U got E3 2012, did it not? 17 months before it's launch? I can't recall it perfectly but I seem to recall they gave it a huge run of promo for 2 E3's?
Serebii Posted February 6, 2016 Author Posted February 6, 2016 'On their own terms'. Yeah I hear someone is holding a gun to their head at the moment... Anyway, they announced the Wiimote a year before the console launched and the 3DS got 7 months from E3 to console launch (Japan) so I imagine that they'll do a reveal sooner rather than later. I doubt they'll leave it any later from a business/common sense perspective. March/April is a good bet depending on how 'on-track' they are with the console launch. Oh, and Wii U got E3 2012, did it not? 17 months before it's launch? I can't recall it perfectly but I seem to recall they gave it a huge run of promo for 2 E3's? You misunderstand. On their own terms I meant that they'd properly reveal it their own way, be it live conference or a special NX Direct, rather than get forced into it due to legal investor reasonings. They'll pump out a PR like the two above, then will reveal their own way between then and E3.
Goron_3 Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) You misunderstand. On their own terms I meant that they'd properly reveal it their own way, be it live conference or a special NX Direct, rather than get forced into it due to legal investor reasonings. They'll pump out a PR like the two above, then will reveal their own way between then and E3. Yes, and my point is that as we believe the NX to launch this year, the initial reveal will be coming sooner rather than later. Apologies for any misunderstanding, but you implied that all they would do by the end of May is send out a letter like that but I'm sure we'll see something much bigger Edit: Either way, I think we agree with each other Edited February 6, 2016 by Goron_3
Cube Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 I thought it was just a crazy analyst that thought the NX was out this year.
Ashley Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Oh, and Wii U got E3 2012, did it not? 17 months before it's launch? I can't recall it perfectly but I seem to recall they gave it a huge run of promo for 2 E3's? They did from what I recall. Well they showed the controller and then spent the rest of E3 saying "no no, it's a new console!" Then the console was shown in more detail the following E3. (or was it 2011 and 2012?)
Blade Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 They did from what I recall. Well they showed the controller and then spent the rest of E3 saying "no no, it's a new console!" Then the console was shown in more detail the following E3. (or was it 2011 and 2012?) Showing the controller and then trying to convince everyone it was a new console was when the problems started.
Goron_3 Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Showing the controller and then trying to convince everyone it was a new console was when the problems started. 'Play with the new controller' 'Draw with the new controller' Oh god that conference was so bad it's actually laughable. What made it worse was when they claimed that they were aiming at core gamers (i.e. 16-35, Western gamers) and then showed off NSMB, Wii Sports U, Wii Fit U, Pikmin and that singing game with Call Me Maybe in it. It was pretty much over at that point.
Serebii Posted February 6, 2016 Author Posted February 6, 2016 Showing the controller and then trying to convince everyone it was a new console was when the problems started. Well them outright saying that they were showing their new console at E3 2011 should have been a hint. While they ballsed it up, the media not doing research damaged things too. Nintendo said in E3 2011 that it was their new console.
Hero-of-Time Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 'Play with the new controller''Draw with the new controller' Oh god that conference was so bad it's actually laughable. What made it worse was when they claimed that they were aiming at core gamers (i.e. 16-35, Western gamers) and then showed off NSMB, Wii Sports U, Wii Fit U, Pikmin and that singing game with Call Me Maybe in it. It was pretty much over at that point. Never forget!
Goron_3 Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Well them outright saying that they were showing their new console at E3 2011 should have been a hint. While they ballsed it up, the media not doing research damaged things too. Nintendo said in E3 2011 that it was their new console. The casual, non-gaming media were obviously going to be confused. I have a friend who works at Men's Health and Nintendo sent them a press release which focused on being able to play Wii Fit with a new controller. The media can only go on the information they were given - if you're targetting the casual market you need to explain what you're selling as they aren't familiar with it. Never forget! I still don't know who this conference was aimed at. Was it the core Western demographic, as they said, or casuals, which their games were aimed at? I remember watching that conference with Zell and I remember being gutted afterwards
Serebii Posted February 6, 2016 Author Posted February 6, 2016 The casual, non-gaming media were obviously going to be confused. I have a friend who works at Men's Health and Nintendo sent them a press release which focused on being able to play Wii Fit with a new controller. The media can only go on the information they were given - if you're targetting the casual market you need to explain what you're selling as they aren't familiar with it. In the conference, Reggie said "our new console".
Ashley Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 I think we've all had enough conversations on here alone to know something that is said can easily be missed amongst other things. Saying "our new console" in a 45 (ish?) minute conference has the potential to be missed if you talk much more about the control and only show it. Wasn't there also some confusion at the time as to whether the new controller would also work on the new console (ie compatible with Wii and the next console)? Thus saying "new console" might have just read/sounded to some people as 'the next console we're releasing' not 'what we're currently showing you'.
Goron_3 Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 In the conference, Reggie said "our new console". You realise not everyone in their press contact list gets invited to the press conference right? Many media groups simply get a press release which in the Wii U's case, failed to talk about the console. Also, you have to realise that only gaming media will hear the term 'new console' and assume it's a successor. The market they were aiming for where force fed the controller more than the console. You're about 4 years too late to this mate.
Ashley Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Dug out the press release we were sent, which would have probably been different from the one non-specialist press would have been sent: LOS ANGELES, June 7, 2011 – At the E 3 Expo, Nintendo introduced a new paradigm for video games and home entertainment: Wii U™, a new console that includes a controller with a 6.2-inch screen. Adding a second screen to the living room creates a multitude of new video game experiences while offering families a variety of options to customize their entertainment. Previously, video games played on a home console have been confined to the TV and offered identical viewpoints to each player in a multiplayer environment. Furthermore, watching TV and playing console games have been completely separate experiences. The new controller removes these boundaries, creating a more dynamic and fluid gaming and entertainment experience. Visitors to the E³ Expo will see firsthand the type of gaming experiences made possible by Wii U and the new controller such as: · In single-player games: o The new controller can display information on its screen that does not appear on the TV. o The information and viewpoint can also change in the new controller based on the orientation of its gyroscope. · In multiplayer games: o The player using the new controller can have a different experience than those looking at the TV. This will offer a wide variety of competitive and cooperative opportunities. In addition to the 6.2-inch screen, the new controller also features an accelerometer and a gyroscope, a rumble feature, an inward-facing camera, a microphone and speakers. Adding these features to the Classic Controller™ button scheme – two analog Circle Pads, +Control Pad, A/B/X/Y buttons, L/R buttons and ZL/ZR buttons – will enable a breadth of game-play experiences while appealing to both casual and dedicated video game players. Wii U combines motion-sensing game play with the ability to support full HD graphics. Each Wii U console will be partnered with a new controller and can also use up to four additional Wii Remote™or Wii Remote Plus controllers. The system is also backward compatible and can play all Wii games and use all Wii accessories. The Wii console has sold more than 86 million units globally and greatly expanded the overall audience for video games. Wii U aims to expand that audience even further. Developers worldwide are already working on new games and experiences for the console. “Wii U redefines the structure of home entertainment by fundamentally changing how the TV, the game console and the Internet function and interact together,” said Nintendo President Satoru Iwata. “The experience enabled by Wii U and the new controller takes players deeper into their games, while reaching out wider than ever before to be inviting to all kinds of gamers.”
Goron_3 Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) If I sent a press release of that quality from work I would probably lose my job. Just to clarify, the amount of organisations and journo's that will receive a press release is probably about 200x greater than those that actually attend the event (in many cases, people will receive the press release without knowledge of the event, as Nintendo simply want coverage). As a result, the above press release leaves way too much room for error. The first paragraph should be split into two; the first which explains that the console is the successor to the Wii (and it's probably best to throw the word next-gen in just to be sure) whilst the second paragraph needs to focus on the controller. Edited February 6, 2016 by Goron_3
Blade Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 While they ballsed it up, the media not doing research damaged things too. If you want to sell a product, no one should need to do research.
dazzybee Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 That video is absolutely awful isn't it. That guy has over a milli0n followers too. He basically chats about stuff we already know, then proceeds to say what it means the nx will be which is nothing other than what he wants... No correlation or casual thought at all.... Bizarre.
liger05 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Personally I hope Reggie goes nowhere near a conference stage for a console reveal. After the complete balls up with the wii u I would let someone else do it.
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 That video is absolutely awful isn't it. That guy has over a milli0n followers too. He basically chats about stuff we already know, then proceeds to say what it means the nx will be which is nothing other than what he wants... No correlation or casual thought at all.... Bizarre. Meh, I like to hear general musings and opinions regardless if people are speaking through their rear ends... Just like here. Personally I hope Reggie goes nowhere near a conference stage for a console reveal. After the complete balls up with the wii u I would let someone else do it. Yeah since that pre-WiiU Nintendoland conference, that guy has lost all credibility with me. In my head, his just got 'liar' written on his forehead everytime he speaks.
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