Ashley Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Anything earlier is too long a gap to make people wait Zelda says hey.
Serebii Posted June 29, 2016 Author Posted June 29, 2016 I'm starting to think augmented reality could be the big "gimmick" we saw snippets on 3DS and I'm wondering if they will launch with a Mario or Pikmin where it's fully functional. After all you can't get better graphics than real life. And it's exactly the kind of wacky thing Nintendo would dream up. Pikmin in particular would work very well with this formulary. I can imagine levels where you need to play in the garden for example. Had a dream about augmented reality tied with Pokémon GO, but...you know...good. Basically AR glasses that superimposed the Pokémon there
Dcubed Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 https://www.uniqlo.com/utgp/2017/uk/qa Nintendo and Uniqlo are holding a design contest. Winner gets a series of prizes, one of them being "a new concept game console NX (DEVELOPMENT CODENAME)" and a trip to an awards ceremony in Spring 2017. Once again re-iterating a March 2017 release timeframe then...
FalcoLombardi Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 With it being all "hush hush"... what could this new technology be? An upgradable game system?
Ashley Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 I'm sure it is, but you can go to an awards ceremony and get the prize later. But speaking of Uniqlo, I have noticed in store they have a display of collaborations this year and one of them is Pokémon TGC which I don't think has happened yet.
Josh64 Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 I'm seriously expecting a delay at this point, they're just being TOO quiet about everything. Has there ever been such a short gap in Nintendo history between unveiling a console and releasing it? The Wii and WiiU both had about 2 years right?
Ashley Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 In fairness announcing something so soon after E3 would be odd and just lead to people asking why they didn't show it then.
Ronnie Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 6-9 months between reveal and release sounds ideal to me. Not a fan of this insane scheduling the industry has gotten itself into lately of years between reveal and release.
killthenet Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 ARS Technica pointing out the obvious. They're also critical that there aren't many games announced for the NX yet, but how many games were announced for the PS4 and Xbox One before they were unveiled? They've also written an article titled 'Can we stop pretending that HTC has a future in VR?'. Absolute garbage 'journalism'.
Dcubed Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 I'm seriously expecting a delay at this point, they're just being TOO quiet about everything. Has there ever been such a short gap in Nintendo history between unveiling a console and releasing it? The Wii and WiiU both had about 2 years right? The GBA and DS were both announced proper just 6 months before their respective launches (3DS would've also been the same if it hit its original release date of November 2010). All of their home consoles were unveiled between 1-2 years prior to their respective launches however... That being said, we do live in a different era now. Short announcement-release cycles are normal for most modern electronic devices these days.
Clownferret Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 I don't see they can't release snippets or an image or two that wouldn't reveal the gimmick they are protecting. A drip feed would be better than this wall of silence.
Josh64 Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Yeah it's the silence that is getting me most, especially as the Wii U is completely dead. I agree that it wouldn't make sense revealing it right now after E3, I probably didn't phrase it right, but I just think in general from March and the fact it didn't appear this E3 is a very bad sign. Even if they didn't show games, surely we could have got a concept trailer like when the Revolution was first revealed. If we are still getting it for March then I'd hope for a September or October event at the latest.
Kav Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 I still think they should've showed a sizzle-reel of games for the NX at E3. Even if the console wasn't there, I imagine they could've shown some game-footage that didn't give away what the concept of NX was..? At least then we'd have got to have seen what we could be looking forward to.
Ronnie Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 I still think they should've showed a sizzle-reel of games for the NX at E3. Even if the console wasn't there, I imagine they could've shown some game-footage that didn't give away what the concept of NX was..?At least then we'd have got to have seen what we could be looking forward to. That sounds terrible, I don't want all they've been working on for the last few years to be spoiled in a quick sizzle reel. Patience. They'll have a massive blow out, hardware AND software, and it'll (hopefully) be worth the wait.
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 That sounds terrible, I don't want all they've been working on for the last few years to be spoiled in a quick sizzle reel. Patience. They'll have a massive blow out, hardware AND software, and it'll (hopefully) be worth the wait. I guess I agree - I am very much looking forward to a big reveal and I'm sure it will be one of those life moments a gamer never forgets. But Nintendo aren't doing themselves many favours by stalling it - pretty much the longer they wait the more customers Sony and Microsoft get and the more likely that these people won't be in a real hurry to fork out £300+ on another console anytime soon. I feel not releasing this Christmas is already a risk.
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 That sounds terrible, I don't want all they've been working on for the last few years to be spoiled in a quick sizzle reel. Patience. They'll have a massive blow out, hardware AND software, and it'll (hopefully) be worth the wait. I guess I agree - I am very much looking forward to a big reveal and I'm sure it will be one of those life moments a gamer never forgets. But Nintendo aren't doing themselves many favours by stalling it - pretty much the longer they wait the more customers Sony and Microsoft get and the more likely that these people won't be in a real hurry to fork out £300+ on another console anytime soon. I feel not releasing this Christmas is already a risk.
Hogge Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 I guess I agree - I am very much looking forward to a big reveal and I'm sure it will be one of those life moments a gamer never forgets. But Nintendo aren't doing themselves many favours by stalling it - pretty much the longer they wait the more customers Sony and Microsoft get and the more likely that these people won't be in a real hurry to fork out £300+ on another console anytime soon. I feel not releasing this Christmas is already a risk. I agree. Eight months to release, Nintendo should be building hype. A serious console maker should full heartedly support their consoles until the very end AND have great games out for the next console's launch. This drought, combined with the silence is making people forget about Nintendo.
Hogge Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 I guess I agree - I am very much looking forward to a big reveal and I'm sure it will be one of those life moments a gamer never forgets. But Nintendo aren't doing themselves many favours by stalling it - pretty much the longer they wait the more customers Sony and Microsoft get and the more likely that these people won't be in a real hurry to fork out £300+ on another console anytime soon. I feel not releasing this Christmas is already a risk. I agree. Eight months to release, Nintendo should be building hype. A serious console maker should full heartedly support their consoles until the very end AND have great games out for the next console's launch. This drought, combined with the silence is making people forget about Nintendo.
Hero-of-Time Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 I agree.Eight months to release, Nintendo should be building hype. A serious console maker should full heartedly support their consoles until the very end AND have great games out for the next console's launch. This drought, combined with the silence is making people forget about Nintendo. I think this is a very important factor. This generation has seen their console mindshare being completely wiped out. It's going to take something really special to get people not only talking about them but who are willing to invest money in their next console. The silence from them it's what's really annoying for myself and a lot of others. If they didn't want to show the NX at E3, then fine. They could have at least said when they will show it off and give people something to look forward to. To be honest I think Nintendo have been somewhat quiet ever since Kimishima took over. I said from the start that he wouldn't be like Iwata and I even stated that you wouldn't see him in Directs, despite what a few on here said. While there haven't been many Directs since Iwata's passing, Kimi hasn't appeared in a single one. There's been a few occasions where a Direct should have been on the cards, but instead we got various press releases and bits and bobs on news coming from other places. It's not only the silence about the NX that could be doing damage, the lack of Directs I think is also having an impact on Nintendo gamers.
Hero-of-Time Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 I agree.Eight months to release, Nintendo should be building hype. A serious console maker should full heartedly support their consoles until the very end AND have great games out for the next console's launch. This drought, combined with the silence is making people forget about Nintendo. I think this is a very important factor. This generation has seen their console mindshare being completely wiped out. It's going to take something really special to get people not only talking about them but who are willing to invest money in their next console. The silence from them it's what's really annoying for myself and a lot of others. If they didn't want to show the NX at E3, then fine. They could have at least said when they will show it off and give people something to look forward to. To be honest I think Nintendo have been somewhat quiet ever since Kimishima took over. I said from the start that he wouldn't be like Iwata and I even stated that you wouldn't see him in Directs, despite what a few on here said. While there haven't been many Directs since Iwata's passing, Kimi hasn't appeared in a single one. There's been a few occasions where a Direct should have been on the cards, but instead we got various press releases and bits and bobs on news coming from other places. It's not only the silence about the NX that could be doing damage, the lack of Directs I think is also having an impact on Nintendo gamers.
peterl0 Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 They must be saving literally hundreds of yen by putting out those press releases instead of a Nintendo Direct as well.
peterl0 Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 They must be saving literally hundreds of yen by putting out those press releases instead of a Nintendo Direct as well.
Hero-of-Time Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 They must be saving literally hundreds of yen by putting out those press releases instead of a Nintendo Direct as well. Remember this from last year? [TWEET]659335850870767617[/TWEET] I guess the change in format was to just scrap the idea altogether?
Hero-of-Time Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 They must be saving literally hundreds of yen by putting out those press releases instead of a Nintendo Direct as well. Remember this from last year? [TWEET]659335850870767617[/TWEET] I guess the change in format was to just scrap the idea altogether?
Pestneb Posted July 5, 2016 Posted July 5, 2016 Do we know that the NX is even a standalone console? The Wii U already has HDMI outputs, wifi, bluetooth etc. What if "104" is like a gamepad, streaming data from the cloud, storing data ahead of time to create a buffer to smooth out inconsistencies in the connection and then streaming the data consistently to the Wii U as it needs the data... a weak connection requires a higher spec "104", while a strong connection allows for a base spec "104". the "104" can be embedded in the NX, but owners of the Wii U can simply buy the NX upgrade pack... As for internet connections.. this is using wikipedia, so I'm sure there are more reliable sources but: In Mbps: South Korea 29, increase of 2mbps in a year Norway 21, increase of 2 Sweden 20, + 1 Hong Kong 19, +3 Switzerland 18, +2 Latvia 18, +1 Japan 18, +1 Netherlands 17, +1 Finland 17, +1 speeds are on an upward trend. Not 100% sure what the government broadband index is.. but South Korea is at 4.4/5 at number 1... Japan at 4.3, USA at 3, France at 3.9, Germany 2.6 and the UK at 2.7. So those, I believe are the main markets for Nintendo, right? Just thinking, the gamepad, as I understand it, applies new technologies developed with other companies to reduce lag significantly, so that the game pad works. The game is running on the Wii U, the image is streamed to the gamepad, input is transmitted by the gamepad back to the Wii U, the game responds and the image is streamed back to the gamepad. Now most on this forum (or at least the most vocal) have complained about the issues with range, but what if Nintendo, rather than extending the range of the gamepad, have dedicated these years to developing a system where the gamepad is replace by the Wii U, and the Wii U by a server? plug the "104" into the ethernet port at the back of the Wii U, and you have yourself an NX.... just a thought. If the NX is essentially an upgrade kit, maybe £180 with a traditional controller and a download code for Zelda NX.... the NX itself is about X1 power, but then also has the Wii U as a frontend and the server as a back end...
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