The Peeps Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 You have no idea what I received in my PM so you can't possibly know whether it's a lie or not. My PM said I received no result on Jonnas. This could have meant that he has no alignment and is neutral. I decided to question Jonnas anyway because I suspected him (more so now than ever) and because I didn't want to let on that I may have been stopped or tampered with (which was also likely) because I wanted to make it seem like I was still being protected - for obvious reasons. The fact that EEVIL and Jonnas are both trying to make me look suspicious here (when I'm possibly the only real threat to the mafia in a vanilla game?) makes it obvious that they're both mafia or incredibly silly townies @Jonnas you've conveniently decided not to quote the part where I explain how a list of confirmed good players will be beneficial to the mafia. You've also still not said what you're win condition is. The idea that I'm mafia is completely laughable. I'm an alignment investigator and I got ReZ lynched. Where are our townies? EEVIL and Jonnas are clear suspects here - Jonnas more so than EEVIL because roleblocking me and admitting it is suicide (or would be if the town were active?). It could be a daring play from the mafia though as getting rid of me would seriously tip the scale in their favour. It will probably be me or mr-paul that dies tonight too :p You should have no information on Jonnas and as such no basis to question him on. This stab in the dark approach to try and paint someone in a corner simply doesn't work when your actions for that night have been blocked. Since when were questions reason to vote for someone? I never accused Jonnas and didn't even say I targeted him at the time. All I asked for was his win condition - and he hasn't said it. I wasn't trying to paint someone in a corner (which ironically is what you're doing here) at all, I was just asking questions to get the most out of my information. I discovered fairly quickly afterwards that you roleblocked me and voted for you because why the fuck would anyone roleblock an alignment investigator. The pm said I received no result on Jonnas. It didn't say I was stopped from reaching Jonnas so I couldn't be sure what caused the lack of result. How about you explain why you roleblocked me now please.
Jimbob Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Peeps, you seem to be getting a little agrevated over this. I'm still not sure on who to vote for, both have valid points as i see it. I'll get back with a vote later on
The Peeps Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I'm being called a liar and suspicious when I've literally handed the town a member of the mafia...
Nintendohnut Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Vote: EEVILMURRAY I'm sorry, but you're trying to lynch someone who brought forward information on a mafia member and got him lynched. So far all you've done is get a townie lynched. I can completely understand the Peeps' position. He got a PM last night that said something different to what he expected, and it's completely understandable that he wouldn't want to let on. Asking Jonnas about his alignment is absolutely not a suspicious action - if Jonnas had said something odd the Peeps may have had some information. Either way I literally cannot see how you think it makes him evil. And your reason of him 'not voting for Rummy'? That's ridiculous as well. The only information you had was that you had role blocked someone when there was no kill. That wasn't proof of anything, which is why I didn't vote for him either. Your accusations of Peeps go against the facts massively. The facts are: - The Peeps brought information forward which helped lynch a mafia member - You brought information forward which helped lynch a townie - Peeps voted for the mafia member to be lynched - Peeps did NOT vote for the townie to be lynched - You blocked the Peeps despite all of this I'm sorry, but based on that information ALONE you aren't looking good. (I expect a lot of 'OMG look at Dohnut jumping on the defensive, Dohnut's a bit suspicious so that makes Peeps suspicious too!', but right now I can't see any reason why the Peeps is suspicious, for the reasons I've stated above. To suggest that we lynch him is absolutely insane.)
EEVILMURRAY Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I'm sorry, but you're trying to lynch someone who brought forward information on a mafia member and got him lynched. So far all you've done is get a townie lynched. No no no, all I did was make an argument against someone which the majority agreed with. Yes, I'm sorry it turned out to be a town member but laying the entirity of the blame on my broad and sexy shoulders. My PM said I received no result on Jonnas. This could have meant that he has no alignment and is neutral. This would depend on the game leader here, because if someone investigated someone who was neutral, I personally, would tell them that the result was neutral (assuming they weren't blocked of course). As someone who is more of a veteran than myself surely you must be of the same mind, plus it's pretty much common sense. The fact that EEVIL and Jonnas are both trying to make me look suspicious here (when I'm possibly the only real threat to the mafia in a vanilla game?) makes it obvious that they're both mafia or incredibly silly townies As opposed to the mob accusing me of being mafia? I feel your pain here chap, the only difference is that my activity resulted in a townie being lynched, something which noone is making me forget The idea that I'm mafia is completely laughable. I'm an alignment investigator and I got ReZ lynched. Where are our townies? EEVIL and Jonnas are clear suspects here - Jonnas more so than EEVIL because roleblocking me and admitting it is suicide (or would be if the town were active?). It could be a daring play from the mafia though as getting rid of me would seriously tip the scale in their favour. You seem to be of the impression that alignment investigators can be townies only, why can't mafia members be alignment investigators? You say what I'm doing is suicide/silly town behaviour yet the same could easily be said of yourself. Sacrificing a fellow mafia to make yourself look innocent and can then start naming townies on your previous result. Since when were questions reason to vote for someone? I never accused Jonnas and didn't even say I targeted him at the time. All I asked for was his win condition - and he hasn't said it. After a night you ask Jonnas questions, of a random nature out of the blue, and you don't think it says you targeted him that night? C'maahn, people here aren't that stupid. I wasn't trying to paint someone in a corner (which ironically is what you're doing here) at all, I was just asking questions to get the most out of my information. I'm not painting you into a corner, I'm just simply saying is that you have no basis on asking Jonnas questions due to the aforementioned roleblockings. I discovered fairly quickly afterwards that you roleblocked me How convenient. The lies unravel after your deceit has been discovered. I'm not sure what else we both can say. It's in the rest of the towns hands.
Mr-Paul Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 My god, I can't believe people are trying to paint Peeps as mafia and even considering EEVILMURRAYs reasons as a legitimate excuse. Listen to what peeps has to say people. He knows more than any of us. Jonnas is dead fishy too. Perhaps even more so than EEVILMURRAY.
The Peeps Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Tell me what lies I've told. List them. Quote me. You won't find any. What use would an alignment investigator be to the mafia? The more you talk, the more likely it is that you're mafia. If you're not mafia then you're playing a ridiculously poor game for a townie. Instead of admitting you were wrong about me you're still trying to pin me down as mafia? You'll be lynched at the end of this phase so you have nothing to lose I guess. Why would I not question Jonnas after getting that result on him? Again, my PM said that I received no result on Jonnas. It didn't say why. Obviously I found out why when you said you roleblocked me but before then I didn't know. The best I could do was not let on that I may have been tampered with as it keeps up an illusion that I'm protected and the mafia will stay off my back. I asked a question of Jonnas and he didn't answer it. I never accused him of anything at all.
Diageo Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Can we just lynch Eevil now? This is getting boring. @heroicjanitor @Jimbob etc.
EEVILMURRAY Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 What use would an alignment investigator be to the mafia? The reasons I listed earlier. Instead of admitting you were wrong about me you're still trying to pin me down as mafia? I don't know if I am wrong, all I know is that after roleblocking you, you started asking questions of a rather suspicious nature and after I mention I roleblocked you, instead of making a case you simply just vote for me. You'll be lynched at the end of this phase so you have nothing to lose I guess. Probably, I don't think I've ever posted so much in a mafia game, and this is in just one day. Minimum my arse Why would I not question Jonnas after getting that result on him? Again, my PM said that I received no result on Jonnas. It didn't say why. Your behaviour on this has also made me feel weird about you. Wouldn't it have been more sensible to ask Jonnas why you got no result on him, instead of asking, of all things, his win condition? I asked a question of Jonnas and he didn't answer it. I never accused him of anything at all. That's true, and he still hasn't answered it either... Most engaging.
The Peeps Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Your behaviour on this has also made me feel weird about you. Wouldn't it have been more sensible to ask Jonnas why you got no result on him, instead of asking, of all things, his win condition? Because the way I asked didn't give away that I'd been tampered with - which obviously worked because you thought you had something on me when you didn't. The PM said I received no result on Jonnas. It could have been because he was protected, it could have been that he has no alignment or it's hidden, it could have been that I was roleblocked. I didn't want to give away that I had been targeted because I wanted to maintain the impression that I'm being protected every night - a reasonable desire given my power :p
EEVILMURRAY Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Because the way I asked didn't give away that I'd been tampered with Which surely you know you would be called up on by the chap-who-is-dynamite-in-bed who could say otherwise. Such as me . But Diageo is right, this is getting boring. Four nights is way too long for a day phase. If ye wanna get rid of me, so be it.
The Peeps Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Well at that point I didn't know I'd been roleblocked so I didn't know if anyone would come forward as targeting me or Jonnas
Yvonne Posted February 3, 2012 Author Posted February 3, 2012 vote count EEVILMURRAY (6): The Peeps, mr-paul, Diageo, Nintendohnut, Cube, DuD The Peeps (1): EEVILMURRAY 7 majority
Jonnas Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 You can vote and you can talk all you want, Peeps, you're the one who hasn't thought about the implications of asking a townie about their win condition. Once again, I ask: what sort of answer did you expect me to give? Or better, what would you answer, if you were in my shoes? I don't want you to answer this, I just want you to type your answer, and delete it before posting. you've conveniently decided not to quote the part where I explain how a list of confirmed good players will be beneficial to the mafia. And you're the one who chooses not to mention the part where I say that the chances of you or Eevil being mafia are incredibly slim. I'm not saying you're mafia, I'm just saying we shouldn't trust someone 100%, even if they're an investigator. In minimal mafias, crazy gambits can happen. Hell, my biggest suspicion right now is Cube, and that's just a hunch. Oh, and I'm still not voting for Eevil. His recent posts are giving me a slight "mafia" feeling, but I'm standing by my position.
The Peeps Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I'd give my win condition without stalling =\
heroicjanitor Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 I think we should slow down here. I just don't think Eevil would say he roleblocked Peeps if he was a mafia. Especially not to stop you from asking for a win condition that someone could easily lie about. I think an absent-minded townie would be more likely. There are so few powers and I think the probability that we are lynching a useful townie is too high. I'm not going to vote for him. Giving his information willingly is the sign of a townie.
Jimbob Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 @Diageo, you make a valid point indeed Vote: EEVILMURRAY Sorry dude : peace:
Diageo Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 A townie that gets in the way is better off dead. :p If it wasn't for him we would have known for sure what alignment Jonnas is. But it looks pretty clear now anyway.
Yvonne Posted February 3, 2012 Author Posted February 3, 2012 vote count EEVILMURRAY (7): The Peeps, mr-paul, Diageo, Nintendohnut, Cube, DuD, Jimbob The Peeps (1): EEVILMURRAY 7 majority Dead: EEVILMURRAY. Roleblocker. Evil. 11 players. 6 majority. -- alive -- @mr\-paul @u&\#601;&\#652;&\#601;s&\#654;&\#592;&\#638; @Shorty @Yvonne -- dead -- Tales Zell ReZourceman Rummy Eenuh @EEVILMURRAY Day 5 ends. Night 5 begins. Send targets!
EEVILMURRAY Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Thank the fuck Christ that's over. I don't think I'll do a minimal mafia again. However, now I must go to War! FOR STUFFIIIIINNG!
Yvonne Posted February 4, 2012 Author Posted February 4, 2012 Night 5 ends. Dead: mr-paul. Vanilla. Good. 10 players. 6 majority. -- alive -- @u&\#601;&\#652;&\#601;s&\#654;&\#592;&\#638; @mr\-paul Day 6 begins. You have until noon wednesday.
Mr-Paul Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Peeps called it as well. Damn you mafia. Good luck town.
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