ReZourceman Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Ellmeister townie confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'm about half way through my epic read through of the thread. I'm not sure if any of these are still alive but main suspects so far: Tales Esequiel EddieColeslaw Rummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'm townie and Esequiel is dead. Remove those from the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellmeister Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Tales why are you definitely townie then? What have you done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I was just joking. As far as I know, I haven't been proven townie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellmeister Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Okay so now it makes me wonder what you have been doing. What do you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sorry, but now up to page 40, Tales and Eddie are obviously mafia together. Was suspicious of Ell a little bit but not a lot/at all really. Page 40 on 40ppp, to make that clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Okay so now it makes me wonder what you have been doing. What do you do? Seriously I'm not telling you that. mr-paul: Because I defended Eddie a while ago?. That's in no way decisive. I don't even remember why I defended her but it must have been a good reason. You can call me mafia for whatever reason, but not that. I'm generally restricive against lynching people too, that was probably it. What day is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 It's your whole activity/attitude throughout the thread. Not just based on one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 It's your whole activity/attitude throughout the thread. Not just based on one day. Then I would be mafia in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieColeslaw Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Sorry, but now up to page 40, Tales and Eddie are obviously mafia together.Was suspicious of Ell a little bit but not a lot/at all really. Page 40 on 40ppp, to make that clear. That's not very epic Anyway, idk how I can convince you guys any more. I've listed my targets which have been confirmed, Flink announced that I have traps, Peeps has confirmed my power, idk why my choice of targets are so suspicious to ReZ, I've been relatively active since the day jayseven got lynched (had a lull during which I was busy with final year work). I'm having trouble seeing why exactly I'm so suspicious, when Zell is a thief, chair doesn't talk much, Dannyboy can kill, Rummy and Dazz are acting weird about lynching me, and Flink's/other people's alignment hasn't even been confirmed. Flink announced that I have traps, but no hunting knives/weapons/scummy-sounding possessions* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I'm going home now. If my laptop still doesn't work when I get home, then I'll see you tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 If you'll need me, I'm at the "gentlemen of questionable usefulness" club together with Dazz and Rummy. I do think it's plausible Dyson had a hidden clause though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 That's not very epic Anyway, idk how I can convince you guys any more. I've listed my targets which have been confirmed, Flink announced that I have traps, Peeps has confirmed my power, idk why my choice of targets are so suspicious to ReZ, I've been relatively active since the day jayseven got lynched (had a lull during which I was busy with final year work). I'm having trouble seeing why exactly I'm so suspicious, when Zell is a thief, chair doesn't talk much, Dannyboy can kill, Rummy and Dazz are acting weird about lynching me, and Flink's/other people's alignment hasn't even been confirmed. Flink announced that I have traps, but no hunting knives/weapons/scummy-sounding possessions* See, that just reeks of mafia to me, trying to point suspicions in all other directions. But I'm still on the fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 WELCOME TO PAUL'S EPIC POST OF EVERYTHING THAT I CAN GATHER TO HAVE HAPPENED SO FAR aqui1a - sportsman, protector against nefarious things night 1- nothing night 2 - protected ReZ night 3- targeted Dazz, caught in a trap night 4 - himself, someone targeted him night 5 - diageo night 6 - ellmeister, punched away night 7 - dannyboy night 8 - didn't send target night 9 - didn't send target, cricket bat stolen chairdriver - magician (came out on day 5) night 1 - tales, already asleep night 2 - cured Cube's eyes night 3 - cube night 4 - targeted flink and failed night 5 - diageo night 7 - rez Cube- Duke Phillip Manning, investigate/protect (DEAD NIGHT 7, GOOD) night 1 - investigated zell night 2 - handkerchiefed, then pushed dannyboy over night 3 - back to being disfigured, trusts flink, targeted ReZ (revealed day 6) night 4 - diageo, couldn't find out what he wanted night 5 - someone tried to kill him, fought them off night 6 - caught in a trap on way to Esequiel Dannyboy - James Barker - kills and traps night 1- targeted Sprout night 2 - targeted cube, was pushed over, something strange going on, amnesia night 3 - found out he was indeed james barker through deducing in the threead, dazz night 4 - self night 5 - self night 6 - redirected by jay from Cube to ReZ night 7 - protected flink night 8 - flink Dazz investigator (claimed day 3) Night 1 - Diageo - good Night 2 - ReZ - good Night 3 - Sméagol - good Night 4 - Dohnut - good NOT A LOT AFTER THIS Diageo - dancer, clayton rogers, copy powers (DEAD NIGHT 9, GOOD) night 1 - dannyboy, was roleblocked night 2 - evidence that Smeagol can protect from non kills night 3 - roleblocked night 4 - fought marcamillian, no kill night 5 - attacked Cube night 7 - targeted eddie, caught in a trap night 8 - roleblocked peeps Dyson - jack bradford, street brawler protector (LYNCHED DAY 9 by Zell, The Peeps, ReZourceman, chairdriver, Diageo, Rummy, EddieColeslaw, Flinky, Dannyboy-the-Dane, GOOD) Night 1- himself Night 2 - ellmeister Night 3 - no-one (out of choice) Night 4 - flink, held off 4 people Night 6 - ellmeister, stopped one person Night 7 - Esequiel, roleblocked night 8 - ReZ, stopped by traps EddieColeslaw - comes out on day 8 as roleblocker/protector with traps Night 1: protected heroicjanitor (no PM) Night 2: roleblocked jayseven (no PM) Night 3: protected Cube (no PM) Night 4: roleblocked Aqui1a (PM: failed, but don't think I was roleblocked?) Night 5: roleblocked Eenuh (no PM) Night 6: protected Esequiel (no PM) Night 7: protected myself (no PM) night 8 - roleblocked dyson Eenuh - protector, key went to mysterious figure on death (DEAD NIGHT 3, GOOD) Ellmeister - spanish, red cape, jailkeeper (claimed day 5) night 1 - Diageo night 2 - MadDog night 3 - Diageo night 4 - Flink, tried jailkeeping/protecting but someone was better night 5 - tried jailkeeping Dohnut but caught in traps night 6 - ReZ - caught in trap night 7 - dyson night 8 - smeagol night 9 - didn't send in Esequiel - tracker/reverse (claimed day 6) actually a con artist -disguise his identity - (DEAD NIGHT 7, EVIL) night 1 - self - was targeted by nobody night 2 - smeagol targeted dannyboy but was blocked. night 3 - roleblocked (targeted Dazz) night 4- Tales - targeted no-one night 5 - forgot to target anyone night 6 - tried to target Eddie, didn't get a PM Flinky - notemaker, optional double vote night 1 - jayseven night 2 - smeagol - thief, protector - no evidence of grouping night 3 - dyson, rough protector, did nothing the last night, got a key from eenuh (was a team-mate of her's) night 4 - diageo, dancer night 5 - zell, steals things night 6 - no note, tried targeting ReZ night 7 - dannyboy, traps and knives and biceps night 8 - eddie has traps, devices, ropes and strings night 9 - Smeagol, same as before but something feels different Herojan - maid, could steal from people's rooms (DEAD NIGHT 2,GOOD) night 1 - there's a sebastian who can steal things Jayseven - redirector/barman (LYNCHED DAY 7 by Cube, Dannyboy-the-Dane, Flinky, The Peeps, chairdriver, Eenuh, Zell, Nintendohnut, Dyson, Ellmeister, Esequiel, GOOD) night 1 - zell to herojan After a few drinks, Zell speaks heartily. It seems his name is Oliver Carter, and he's unsure of whether his plans for tonight were correct or not. night 2 - rummy to diageo (failed) caught in a trap night 3 - rummy to Diageo, Rummy insisted in drinking beer. He said "I don't trust no drinks of yours. I'm drinkin' good ol' fashioned beer or my god-given name isn't Richard Jansen!" night 4 - chair to flink, The moment you offer chair a drink, you see he had already served himself. Odd, you could swear he didn't touch the bottle... He says, "I'm Isaac Gavin, should you want to see more, I'm not hard to find" night 5 - no-one night 6 - dannyboy to ReZ "Dannyboy sure loved a good Scotch. It seems he's James Barker, Angus' twin brother who was thought dead, but now serves the princess. Crazy, huh?" MadDog - policeman, good (DEAD NIGHT 5, GOOD) night 1 flink targeted jayseven night 2 roleblocked night 3 - says he gets death scene reports - flink hurried away (has the key?) Marcamillian - Angus MacNeil (LYNCHED DAY 5 by Diageo, Dyson, Tales, EddieColeslaw, aqui1a, Dannyboy-the-Dane, ReZourceman, Jayseven, Flinky, Esequiel, Nintendohnut, Cube, EVIL) day 5 - says lord James is mafia leader mr-paul - aoife kavanagh from last game, key stolen on death (DEAD NIGHT 1, GOOD) Mundi - seargent michael connor, roleblock investigator (LYNCHED by Esequiel, Diageo, The Peeps, aqui1a, Dazz, Nintendohnut, ReZourceman, Cube, Ellmeister, Flinky, EddieColeslaw, Tales, Dyson. GOOD) night 1 - nothing worthwhile - found out who Oliver Carter is (Zell) night 2 - targeted ReZ to interrogate, also roleblocks Nintendohnut - vengeful scotsman Graham Finlay, needs to kill Angus, neutral, can set traps (LYNCHED DAY 8 by Rummy, The Peeps, Dannyboy-the-Dane, Dazz, Flinky, Diageo, Tales, Zell, Dyson, NEUTRAL) first 3 nights - no-one night 6 - says the traps at esequiel's weren't his ReZ - animal handler, investigative cat night 1 - dohnut, inconclusive night 2 - was targeted by Aqui1a, Dazz and Mundi. night 3 - tracked Flink, targeted Dyson night 4 - protected self night 5 - tracked maddog night 6 - sent a cat to diageo night 7 - investigate Zell - good, enhanced by chair night 8 - investigate Dyson - evil (wrong info) enhanced by chair again night 9 - track diageo and dazz, diageo targeted Aqui1a, Dazz targeted ReZ Rummy - alignment investigator (claimed day 5) Night 1 - ReZ - evil shady behaviour Night 2 - chair - clearly evil Night 3 - Dazz, redirected to Diageo - evil Night 4 - Dohnut - evil DAY 7 STILL HASN'T INVESTIGATED SELF day 9 - says just trust me on this about eddiecoleslaw day 10 - guarantees eddie is evil on his own life Sméagol - thief, claude gallandeau, claims to protect from non fatal stuff, knows lots about keys night 1- dannyboy night 2 - claims to have been roleblocked night 3 - protect flink night 4 - protect flink Sprout/eenuh - tracker night 1 - rummy, someone attempted to talk to her night 2 - herself night 3 - aqui1a night 4 - flink, was stopped by Dyson night 5 - flink, caught in a trap night 6 - targeted self, cat targeted him night 9 - reverse tracked ell. visited by no-one Tales - vague dreams night 4 - dyson was violent, two men also fought separately night 6 - one gentleman evaded death again night 9 - had a dream about someone entering a room and tripped on the way out The Peeps - sebastian, herojan's bro, investigator (powers) Night 1 - Diageo - first roleblcok... then protect Night 2 - Smeagol, confirms his powers Night 3 - dohnut has knives and traps Night 4 - Dazz attempts to learn other people's alignments Night 5 - zell steals stuff Night 7 - Rummy attemtps to get alignments night 8 - caught in a trap night 9 - eddie roleblocks or protects Zell - Oliver Carter, thief night 1 redirected to herojan and roleblocked night 2 - found beartraps in Dohnut's room night 3 - ell, red cape, uses to roleblock night 4 - roleblocked dohnut night 5 - stole paper from maddog, gained his knowledge night 6 - tried targeting esequiel, caught in a trap (tripwire) night 7 - tried targeting eddiecoleslaw, caught in same trap night 8 - dyson, found nothing night 9 - aqui1a, stole cricket bat people who didn't prove useful/reveal anything at all at beginning of game - Tales, Marcamillian, Eddie, Rummy, Ell, Esequiel, Sméagol suspicious to me second half - Dazz, Rummy,(both due to inactivity) Tales, Eddie, Sméagol Bloody hell that took a long time. To me, Tales and Eddie are very suspicious, and Sméagol I reckon has joined the mafia and knew too much about keys at the start. PS. there are a few gaps. If you would be so kind and help me fill them in it would be much appreciated And i've only put in alignments confirmed by death/lynch, none by investigators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenuh Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Long post haha. As for my targets, night 6 I targeted Diageo. Found out he targeted himself and that ReZ sent his cat to Diageo. Night 7 I targeted Ellmeister, no one targeted him. Night 8 I targeted ReZ, he targeted himself and was visited by chairdriver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Merci beaucoup! I will add that to my notes! One question to ReZ, what were your full actions night 8? I notice you investigated two nights in a row, and you were enhanced the night you got Dyson as evil, so what else did you do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I protected The Peeps last night. Yeah, I noticed that, too, ReZ; when have you last protected yourself? You claim to need to cycle through the powers before being able to use them again. I'm really tempted to go for Eddie based on Rummy's and Dazz's certainty. The more I think about it, the more I like the theory that they've become (super)cops, but have kept it a secret so as to not arouse suspicion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenuh Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I assume he protected himself night 8 as his second power. As I found out he targeted himself. Don't see what else he would do other than protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Great post, Mr Paul. I spotted how you bolded the part about Rummy not targeting himself. Interesting. Flink, we can't afford to lose another town. There have already been too many mistakes made, let's not repeat what happened to Mundi! (I think it was him who everybody said was Evil and turned out he was Good. If it wasn't, apologies). Eddie is the one we should be voting on. I believe ReZ because I know how frustrating it is when you're told a result and it ends up it's something else. I agree that it does look bad but I'm very willing to believe he is Good. Eddie, however, I think is Evil Mundi was the one who was deemed "nefarious." Question though, why is everyone now suddenly convinced that ReZ "was given a bad result by mistake" yet trust all of his other results? There's nothing to suggest that the result was tainted or that he appeared evil under investigation. Why are people suddenly saying that this is so? We've known about Dyson's rough nature for aaaages. There's a difference between "looking shady" and coming back evil in an investigation. Apparantly by a "reliable" investigator, or so we're told. Sorry, but I don't get your reasoning. Why do you find it hard to believe that ReZ actually got the evil result when Dyson's character is specifically mentioned to be shady? Because evil and shady are not the same thing? Because ReZ was adamant that the result meant Dyson was mafia and left no room whatsoever for the possibility that he was wrong. There is or was nothing to suggest that the result was edited or tainted. Apparantly ReZ is "reliable" or so we think. Have you suddenly forgotten about me? All of my results came out as Good and I would swear blind that my results definitely said they were Good. To me, this is no different. Flink, seriously, believe me when I say that ReZ is not our guy and that Eddie is. How can you not see that ReZ's results have acted the same way as my results have done? How did you not see that it's a possibility that ReZ is actually telling the truth and that he's going through what I did? Do you want to kill Town? Vote for ReZ. Do you want to kill Mafia? Then vote for Eddie! Why are we suddenly all protecting ReZ, and I have noticed what others have noticed, that you and Rummy seem to be acting in a sneaky way. The difference is that you had dodgy results throughout, so you were deemed unreliable. Apparently we deem ReZ to be "reliable" yet we're willing to sweep this evil result under the carpet. Why is it that people were so quick to lynch after hearing that evil result, but are unwilling to question it now? I find that really hard to believe. Give me proof that ReZ is town and I'll take his vote off. I'm not sure I quite got that? ReZ said he definitely got a Evil result, Jonnas says in writeup Dyson's past made him shady. That makes sense to me that he was good but appeared evil under investigation? Also I have no reason, but I'm asking you to. Lynch Eddie, we'll finally find a mafia. I guarantee it with my own life. I believe Eddie probably is mafia, but I'm always saying that we need to draw attention to ReZ as well. He believed in his result but was unwilling to put himself on the line. What does that tell you, eh? Why would you put yourself on the line but he wouldn't? Answer me that. What you're saying about Dyson is something you can't be certain about. We knew what Dyson's nature was like for a long time. Like I said, I questioned ReZ about the accuracy of his result, Dyson also raised the possibility of himself appearing evil under investigation, but nobody seemed to care about that. I don't know, I think this is exactly what mafia could play on. "My results are unreliable, don't trust them!" The fact that he were revealed as rough earlier(I believe that was because of me I think) could just have played into their hands. I mean, no one bother to bring it up yesterday it looks like(I was a bit awol because of exams) but now it's a hot topic so Rez doesn't get lynched. I completely agree with the first part of this post. In fact, the whole fact that nobody is even considering this is making me question you all. I don't trust any of you. Not a single one. What if we lynch Eddie and she turns out to be town? That puts a number of you in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 It seems obvious to me that him being shady means he appears as evil under investigation. I'm not saying this means ReZ isn't mafia (since we knew about it, he could have purposefully used it to his own advantage), but yeah, I don't think it necessarily makes him more suspicious. I would love to hear what ReZ has to say about it himself, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I trust ReZ as he's put himself out there every day with his actions which have been verified more often than not by other investigators/trackers and the write ups. Also Dyson's death said he appeared shady. That suggests to me that he investigates as evil. We did know he was rough earlier in the game (I know this, I've read the whole thing today!) But because this game is so big most people have forgotten what happened early in the game. Also, ReZ has never killed. Others such as Eddie, Tales, Sméagol etc etc. have MASSIVE gaps in their stories, and have only come out with stuff when pressed by everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I've said all I've had to say on the matter, and its clear you guys don't think its an avenue worth taking. The only person I feel sorry for here is Dyson, because when you get wrongly lynched, you'd expect as least some sort of decent discussion into the person who claimed him to be evil. I'm making a mental note of this all. Like I said, you're all suspicious to me. I don't trust any of you and am prepared to vote for anybody left in this game who I deem suspicious. My vote on ReZ stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eenuh Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 No wonder you're voting for everyone if you're suspicious of every single player in the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I've come back into the game after being dead since the first night and highlighted EVERYTHING that's happened! Do you really think I'd do that if I were eeeeeeviiiiillll? I just don't think it's a risk ReZ would take. Also, jayseven was lynched on a lot less convincing evidence than Dyson. Did we follow up on that by lynching anyone who led the lynch on him? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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