dwarf Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 I was pleasantly surprised by the high picture quality of recent movies at the cinema. Angels and Demons, thought not a great film, looked sublime, as did State of Play which may deserve a blu-ray buyage. When the screen is that big and awesome, why complain?
Choze Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 IMAX is a file format, it stands for 'Image Maximum'. You can't a have high standard IMAX you idiot. Yet again you prove you know nothing. I am not talking about file formats. I am talking about cinemas. Most people arent near an IMAX. Even if they are, its probably a dumbed down Odeon Imax with small screen(by Imax standards). I was pleasantly surprised by the high picture quality of recent movies at the cinema. Angels and Demons, thought not a great film, looked sublime, as did State of Play which may deserve a blu-ray buyage.When the screen is that big and awesome, why complain? Varies but in London there are virtually no HD screens.
Daft Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 I am not talking about file formats. I am talking about cinemas. Most people arent near an IMAX. Even if they are, its probably a dumbed down Odeon Imax with small screen(by Imax standards). Cinemas use standard equipment. Digital cinema, from 2005, has been at a standard 2048 horizontal lines of resolution. The Arts Alliance Media have been upgrading cinemas quite aggressively in this country since 2005. Varies but in London there are virtually no HD screens. Bullcrap. Off the top of my head there are two IMAXs, the central ODEON and the Empire (The Empire is has a stunning image.). All of them are state-of-the-art. Why do you keep posting? You obviously have no clue.
Cube Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 The Scala in Prestatyn has a 2k Resolution (2048 x 1080) digital screen. Although it is the only cinema in Wales that doesn't have film projectors.
Choze Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 Cinemas use standard equipment. Digital cinema, from 2005, has been at a standard 2048 horizontal lines of resolution. The Arts Alliance Media have been upgrading cinemas quite aggressively in this country since 2005. Bullcrap. Off the top of my head there are two IMAXs, the central ODEON and the Empire (The Empire is has a stunning image.). All of them are state-of-the-art. Why do you keep posting? You obviously have no clue. Could well be 2048 lines. Lines of blur that is... Someone is getting short-changed. At least we know where money gets wasted in these times of thrift...
Daft Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 Could well be 2048 lines. Lines of blur that is... Someone is getting short-changed. At least we know where money gets wasted in these times of thrift... I advise you get your eyes cheched. You're the only one complaining.
Choze Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 I advise you get your eyes cheched. You're the only one complaining. Well vast majority of cinemas most certainly are not resolving close to even COD4 level detail. Could just be a crappy projector or i just have bad luck going to cinemas all around London.
Daft Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Well vast majority of cinemas most certainly are not resolving close to even COD4 level detail. Could just be a crappy projector or i just have bad luck going to cinemas all around London. Or it could just be you have no idea what you are talking and spew fourth rubbish all the time. Vue, Cineworld and ODEON all invest in the latest equipment. Seriously, check your eyesight. Close to CoD4 levels? You must be having a joke. I can't believe anyone can be that idiotic or stubborn. That's a lie. I can easily believe it.
Cookyman Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Link Hold on before you run out to buy a new TV! You may have seen the report on Engadget stating that, according to a Sony rep, all PS3 games will run in 3-D with a software update next year. We contacted Sony ourselves to learn more about what sounded like a major megaton to let slip at a trade show. Sony told us that the company is "conducting a technological investigation" of whether it's even possible to do that. As for specifics: "there is no plan for the market launch of this at this time." If you're dying to look at a 3-D game right now, Engadget also captured a video of Wipeout HD being played in 3-D, which you can see above. For some reason, the 3-D effect doesn't come through when viewed in an embedded video recording -- even with the glasses in front of the lens. Sony really needs to work on that. Move along - no megaton here.
Choze Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Or it could just be you have no idea what you are talking and spew fourth rubbish all the time. Vue, Cineworld and ODEON all invest in the latest equipment. Seriously, check your eyesight. Close to CoD4 levels? You must be having a joke. I can't believe anyone can be that idiotic or stubborn. That's a lie. I can easily believe it. I can see clearly though. Can you differentiate between resolutions yourself? Every Vue i have been to has shown movies in SD, including cropped movies. Odeon vary. Cineworld only been to afew, all SD. Odeon do HD Ready in select cinemas on select screens. Thats it. All of them fell well short of what i get at home. You are suggesting they all use the same equipment which is highly unlikely... It could well be the projector are rated high but they could be cheap ones if they were donated and the whole process needs to consistent. e.g if the film is crap there is not much you can do.
Daft Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 I can see clearly though. Can you differentiate between resolutions yourself? Actually, to a degree, yes I can. Cinemas don't all have the same equipment but the minimum standard is a much much higher resolution than you keep bleating on about.
S.C.G Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Tbf it's all pretty redundant, cinemas use whatever high-end equipment that they have, if you go to a cinema and pay for a ticket then you're accepting that the picture quality is good enough to pay for and it is; plus when most people go to the cinema they won't be complaining about the picture quality, they will be watching the film and enjoying the atmosphere. As for value for money, if you allready have a Blu-Ray player at home then of course waiting for the film to come out on disc is better value, you don't get a cinema-sized screen to watch it on but arguably you don't need it if it's just you watching it. Arguing over things that really don't matter when you're viewing it on a cinema screen is trivial, it's not gonna look the same as it would on your HDTV at home, you probably get a better picture overall on a decent HDTV but it's not as big so it's merely a trade-off... Some people prefer to go to the cinema and find the picture quality acceptable, personally I don't... but that's because I live in Cornwall where a lot of the cinema's are still using old projectors, afaik there are only one or two that use new projectors so if you live anywhere where they are standard atm then consider yourself lucky, go and see w/e films you want to see and stop complaining. I'll only go to the cinema if I'm absolutely desperate to see a new film, which doesn't happen often at all; I dislike our local cinema because the screen has faults in it - absolutely unacceptable Imo - and it's usually full of idiots who don't know how to stfu... so I'll stick to dvd's for now and the odd blu-ray thanks, at least I know what kind of quality to expect when watching films at home.
Cube Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 I can't tell a lot of difference between Sky and Sky HD without flicking from one to the other, but I can easily tell that the Scala is super high quality. I'd be amazingly surprised if London doesn't have a ton of screens as good as Prestatyn's.
Daft Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Some people prefer to go to the cinema and find the picture quality acceptable, personally I don't... but that's because I live in Cornwall where a lot of the cinema's are still using old projectors, afaik there are only one or two that use new projectors so if you live anywhere where they are standard atm then consider yourself lucky, go and see w/e films you want to see and stop complaining. I suspect the trade off is that cinema tickets can cost £13/15 around central London.
S.C.G Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 I suspect the trade off is that cinema tickets can cost £13/15 around central London. Shit seriously? I didn't realise it had got that bad :/ I mean that's almost the price of what a film will cost when it comes out on Blu-Ray... In Cornwall ticket prices are about £6 - £9 I guess but like I say some cinemas down here are - afaik - still using crap projectors so it really isn't worthwhile for me going to see anything very often. At least in central London they will have the newest equipment but even so... £13 -£15 per ticket? that is a lot just to see one film once.
Daft Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 That's the extreme. Peak time Leicester Square (which have the best screens) it varies around the place though. I can get a student ticket for £6.50 two streets over from the Square. It's only really that bad around central but certain cinemas do have amazing screens. The Empire is my favourite. Good seating and the image is crystal. I saw Apocalytpo there and it looked better than Blu Ray on a 40". I was blown away.
dwarf Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Yeah well the only cinema I go to is the Empire one, as I said I was pleasantly surprised with how good it looked when showing Angel and Demons.
Choze Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 That's the extreme. Peak time Leicester Square (which have the best screens) it varies around the place though. I can get a student ticket for £6.50 two streets over from the Square. It's only really that bad around central but certain cinemas do have amazing screens. The Empire is my favourite. Good seating and the image is crystal. I saw Apocalytpo there and it looked better than Blu Ray on a 40". I was blown away. The Empire is no doubt great but its hardly indicative of the average cinema. Even then most of the screens are tiny there (stick to screen 1). The vast majority of cinemas and especially screens are still SD. Apocalypto is very good PQ wise.
Fresh Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Well the porn industry is said to be the thing that wins format wars, could the same be said for 3D. Are we ready for 3D porn? Would it lead to a new standard of 3D?
Emasher Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 No way I'm buying a new TV for a good few years, so I don't really care about this at the moment. It would be something interesting to try at one point though.
Ashley Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Well the porn industry is said to be the thing that wins format wars, could the same be said for 3D. Are we ready for 3D porn? Would it lead to a new standard of 3D? 3D porn exists.
Fresh Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 3D porn exists. Ashley, your blowing my mind.
Daft Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 The Empire is no doubt great but its hardly indicative of the average cinema. Even then most of the screens are tiny there (stick to screen 1). The vast majority of cinemas and especially screens are still SD. Apocalypto is very good PQ wise. I'm just going to point out the rubbish you've been saying. Varies but in London there are virtually no HD screens. Even the best cinemas in the UK arent that great compared to what other countries get. And no, screens 1, 4 and 5 have advance digital projectors at The Empire Leicester Square alone. If you want to see how much crap you're talking just read this article from 2005. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4297865.stm UK pioneers digital film network The world's first digital cinema network will be established in the UK over the next 18 months. Most cinemas currently have mechanical projectors but the new network will see up to 250 screens in up to 150 cinemas fitted with digital projectors capable of displaying high definition images. The new network will double the world's total of digital screens. So not only do you know nothing about the implementation of cinema technology in the UK but you talk crap about the cost. At least we know where money gets wasted in these times of thrift... "It can cost up to £1,500 to make a copy of a print for specialist films. "In the digital world you can make prints for considerably less than that. The sheer cost of traditional prints means that some cinemas need to show them twice a day in order to recoup costs. Choze, stfu. Look back. I've sourced everything I said. You're obviously making things up.
Choze Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Well done for being a dumb idiot and proving my point. Most UK screens show poor quality. 250 screens out of over 4000. Nicely done. Not only that but if 1 aspect of the delivery falls behind par the end result is under par. Also digital does not mean quality.
Ashley Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Did you not see the part where it said that the increase in the UK digital screens will double the worlds, ergo 250 existed before then add in the 250 and as such the UK has half of the world's digital screens, more than America (as presumably some of the pre-existing ones are also in other markets such as Asia).
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