darksnowman Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Our colleagues over at Gametrailers are at it yet again and are doing a Metal Gear retrospective. I just watched part one there now, and despite not having played much Metal Gear over the years (since it turned into a stinking Playstation franchise ) I'd be willing to give these old ones a blast if and when they hit the VC. They remind me of the James Bond Gameboy game. Part One. - Metal Gear, Snake's Revenge, and MG2: Solid Snake. Part Two - Metal Gear Solid, VR Missions, and The Twin Snakes. Part Three - Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty and MGS2: Substance. Part Four - The virtuous war is fought in a bygone era of fear and fury. Part Five - The handheld missions of Ghost Babel, AC!D and Portable Ops. Part Six - A chronological briefing of Snake tales from 1964 to 2014. -------------------------- I'll stick in the Bonus Round as well seeing as its focused on Metal Gear too. Geoff Keighley hosts and his guests are N’Gai Croal, David Hayter and Rob Smith. Bonus Round Part One - We sit down with Solid Snake and an all star panel for an inside look at MGS4. Bonus Round Part 2 - Have we seen the rise and fall of Snake or does he have one more trick up his sleeve? Bonus Round Part 3 - We take a look back on the Metal Gear franchise and talk about their greatest moments. Bonus Round Part 4 - What's next for Kojima and his team and will MGS4 ever make its way to the 360?
Jamba Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Ahh goody, the retrospectives are a fantastic project of GT. I've played the first MG for about 10 mins on... well it was not a ROM... and I got NOWHERE. Died so hard and so fast it was obscene. Just watched the Retrosp. It's pretty damn good, especially as I didn't realise that the franchise was constantly being ripped off Kojima. The "2nd" game looked like a joke. Btw, the first one is still really hard. Any tips for killing the tank at the beggining anyone?
Helmsly Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Part 2 is now up; http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34187.html
Tellyn Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Watched part 1 today with a friend, it makes me want to play the games if they're ever out on the Virtual Console. I'll start with tracking down Twin Snakes for now, however.
Dante Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 They messed up info about Meryl Silverburgh is Roy Campbell's niece, not his daughter.
Helmsly Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Tellyn, if you have a PS2 you could get MGS3;subsistence as it has the two first Metal gear games from the MSX on disc 2. I think its the only way to play an English version on MG2 soilid snake They messed up info about Meryl Silverburgh is Roy Campbell's niece, not his daughter. No; you found out that Meryl is his daughter if you get the Otacon ending in MGS. I cant fully remember but its something along the lines of Cambell having an affair with his brothers wife.
Dante Posted May 17, 2008 Posted May 17, 2008 Your right Helmsly. I remember her being Roy Campbell's niece.
Chuck Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Im going to be a boss. It was pretty good, twin snakes>mg1
Caris Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 twin snakes>mg1 Well thats all my respect for you gone down the drain.
Chuck Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 It atleast looks better. And I cant think of anything to nulify the rule that remakes are better. Atleast not at 2am
Mr. Bananagrabber Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Twin Snakes is way better than the original. I went through them all recently in preparation for 4. MGS was excellent at the time, but it feels so slow and clunky now. First person mode is pretty much essential as far as I'm concerned, I had a lot of difficulty trying to play without it. Which is weird because I finished it dozens of times without a problem all those years ago. I spent ten minutes in the vents because I could barely see where I was going because it was so blurry. It's still awesome, but I have to say, looking back, The Twin Snakes is a better game. They're both horribly inferior to MGS3 anyway.
Guest Jordan Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 I've not actually played MGS3... >_> I never got that far in MGS2, i found it to drag to be honest. Twin Snakes is far and beyond a better game than MGS1 however. But they're both very good.
Zelda_Rulez Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Just watched the first two and they are really well done. I love these retrospectives Gametrailers are doing.
Dante Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 I've not actually played MGS3... >_> Play it soon before MGS4 because it might contain details for it. MGS3 tells you infomation on how the patriots came to be.
Chuck Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Not that it will help. The storyline is chicken giblets confusing
Calza Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Yeah to be honest if anybody understood MGS2's ending then they are a better wo/man than me. Is Portable Ops crucial for the overall story?
Zelda_Rulez Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Yeah to be honest if anybody understood MGS2's ending then they are a better wo/man than me. Is Portable Ops crucial for the overall story? I remember Kojima saying that it tied in directly to MGS4, but it's definitely canon. I still have to catch up on it's story as I haven't got a PSP.
Dante Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Yeah to be honest if anybody understood MGS2's ending then they are a better wo/man than me. Is Portable Ops crucial for the overall story? It some hints with a girl looking into the future and unknown villain. Also talking about MGS3 links to MGS2 with Ocelot history and family ties. Understanding 'Soild' Timeline Metal Gear Solid 3 is set during the Cold War in 1964, where Naked Snake is sent to the jungles of the Soviet Union. Aided over radio by Major Zero, Para-Medic, and his former mentor The Boss, his mission is to rescue a defecting Soviet scientist named Sokolov who is secretly developing an advanced nuclear-equipped tank called the "Shagohod." The mission goes smoothly until The Boss defects and provides her new benefactor Colonel Volgin with two Davy Crockett miniature nuclear shells.Sokolov is captured by the Cobra Unit and Snake is heavily injured in combat by The Boss, allowing Volgin and his cohorts to escape with the Shagohod. Volgin detonates one of the nuclear shells to cover up its theft, which is subsequently blamed on The Boss. Having detected the US aircraft which deployed Snake flying over Soviet soil, the Soviet Union declares the United States responsible for the atomic attack, tipping both nations to the edge of a nuclear war. In a secret conference between US President Lyndon Johnson and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, a deal is hatched to prove the US's innocence and restore peace. The United States agree to stop Volgin's renegade faction, destroy the stolen Shagohod and eliminate the American defector, The Boss. A week after being rescued from the region, Snake is redeployed into the Soviet jungle as part of Operation Snake Eater, to fulfill the United States' promises. During the mission, he gains the assistance of another American defector, ex-NSA agent EVA, who defected a few years earlier. After numerous encounters with the elite Ocelot Unit (led by a young Ocelot), and defeating every member of the Cobra Unit, Snake succeeds in locating Sokolov and the stolen Shagohod, only to be captured in Volgin's military fortress, Groznyj Grad. After witnessing the apparent death of Sokolov, Snake is tortured and has his eye shot out when Ocelot shoots to kill EVA; Snake ultimately escapes. When he returns to the facility to destroy the Shagohod, Snake learns of The Philosophers. Made up of the most powerful men in the United States, Soviet Union, and China, they are an Illuminati-like organization who control the world behind the scenes. However, after the end of World War II, they began to fight amongst themselves, and the organization broke down. The Philosopher's Legacy, a fund the organization had jointly amassed to finance their wars ($100 billion, about $1 trillion today when adjusted for inflation) was divided up and hidden in banks all over the world.Volgin had illegally inherited this money, and Snake learns that the US is attempting to retrieve it. Snake continues his mission, destroying the facility and the Shagohod tank, while engaging Volgin, who is killed by a bolt of lightning during the battle. Snake and EVA travel to a lake, where a ground effect vehicle is hidden. Before they use it to escape the region, Snake confronts his old mentor, The Boss, whom he must kill to complete his mission. During this time a cut-scence is shown stating that The Boss gave birth to a child (The father being The Sorrow) during a battle. Before this time however, during a radio call, EVA tells Snake that the reason Ocelot achieved the rank of major at such a young age was due to the fact that his parents were legendary soldiers. She also tells Snake that Ocelot's mother needed to cut Ocelot out during the birth, leaving a snake-like scar. This scar is seen on The Boss, which proves that she is Ocelot's mother. After an emotional battle, Snake overcomes his feelings and defeats her. He and EVA escape to Alaska, and spend the night together. During the night EVA disappears, and leaves behind a tape revealing herself to be a Chinese spy sent to steal the Philosophers Legacy for China. The tape continues, and EVA reveals that The Boss did not defect to the Soviet Union; rather, she was under orders to pretend to defect so she could infiltrate Volgin's ranks and find the location of the Legacy, which could be brought back to America. The final part of her mission was to sacrifice her honor and die at the hands of Snake, under the guise of a traitor, to prove the US's innocence in Volgin's nuclear attack from the beginning of the game. Snake is awarded the title of "Big Boss" and given the Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts. Later, he arrives at an anonymous grave, The Boss', just one of thousands in the huge military cemetery he visits. Laying down The Boss' gun and a bouquet of lilies upon the nameless gravestone he scans the endless rows before him, salutes, and sheds a single tear. After the credits roll, Ocelot is heard talking (a telephone conversation), and reveals that the microfilm containing the information on the Philosopher's Legacy given to EVA was a fake, that Ocelot himself was ADAM, that half of the real legacy is in the hands of the US Government thanks to Snake, and that he was working for the CIA. Six years after the events of "Operation: Snake Eater", portrayed in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, Naked Snake's former team, FOX Unit, has broken their allegiance with the CIA and gone renegade. Snake himself is also targeted by the FOX Unit, which sent renegade FOX Unit soldiers to attack and capture him. The game begins with Snake being tortured and interrogated by one of the members of FOX, Lieutenant Cunningham, who's trying to locate the whereabouts of the missing half of the Philosopher's Legacy, with the United States Government having already acquired the other half of the Legacy from the Soviet Union at the conclusion of Snake Eater. Snake is imprisoned in a cell next to Roy Campbell, the sole survivor of an American Green Beret team sent in to investigate the base. Snake learns through Roy that they're on the San Hieronymo Peninsula, the site of an abandoned Soviet missile silo in Colombia. The two escape and Snake makes his way to a communications base, where he attempts to contact his old CO, Major Zero. Instead, he is greeted by his old FOX comrades Para-Medic and Sigint, who reveal that Snake and Zero are being accused of instigating the revolt and that the only way for Snake to clear their name is to find and apprehend the leader of the rebellion, Gene. To complicate matters, Gene has also convinced most of the Russian soldiers stationed on the base to join their side by simply taking over the chain of command of a former Red Army unit, that was secretly stationed inside the Colombian territory. In order to complete his mission, Snake must persuade enemy soldiers to join his ranks because of the scale of his mission. Snake and his squad defeat the top members of the FOX unit (if defeated by reducing their stamina to zero instead of their HP, some of the FOX members will join Snake's squad, this includes Null and Python) and eventually they make their way into Gene's guesthouse. Snake learns many things on his way. Cunningham was working for the Pentagon and wanted Snake to push Gene into launching a nuke to Russia to prolong the Cold War (so the Pentagon could keep their importance). Gene was actually aware of this plan the whole time from information from Ocelot. Gene really wanted to launch a nuke at America to destroy the Philosophers and to make his nation of soldiers, "Army's Heaven". Snake destroys an experimental model of Metal Gear codenamed RAXA and eventually defeats Gene, destroying the real Metal Gear itself afterwards. After Gene is defeated he gives Big Boss the funds, equipment, personnel, and all other information regarding Army's Heaven, telling him that one day, he will need to use them. On his return home, Snake is awarded for his actions and establishes FOXHOUND afterwards. In the end it is revealed Ocelot kills the DCI and takes the Philosophers documents to "end them". After the credits, Ocelot speaks with an unknown man on the phone. Ocelot speaks of using the Legacy to form the Patriots in place of the Philosophers. Ocelot actually wanted the trajectory data of the nuke to point to the DCI so he would bring the documents right to him. Ocelot requests Big Boss be able to 'join' them (he and the man on the phone) in their new endeavor - becoming the Patriots. The game is set in 2005 (six years after the events of Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake), where FOXHOUND and the genetically-enhanced Next-Generation Special Forces unit lead an armed uprising at Shadow Moses, a remote isle located in Alaska's Fox Archipelago and the site of a nuclear weapons disposal facility. In the process they acquire Metal Gear REX, a nuclear-capable walking tank, and threaten the U.S. government with a nuclear reprisal if they do not receive the remains of the "legendary mercenary" Big Boss. Solid Snake, in retirement at Alaska's Twin Lakes, is forcibly dispatched at the request of Colonel Roy Campbell to penetrate the terrorist defenses and neutralize the threat. Solid Snake first locates hostage Donald Anderson, the DARPA chief. After he informs Snake of the new Metal Gear REX unit housed at the facility, and its deactivation procedure, he mysteriously dies of what appears to be a heart attack.Following a brief encounter with Meryl Silverburgh, who aids their escape from the base prison, Snake continues on to find the other hostage, ArmsTech president Kenneth Baker. He is used as bait by Revolver Ocelot and challenges Snake to a gunfight. The fight is interrupted by the arrival of a mysterious cyborg ninja who severs Ocelot's right hand before escaping. Snake is again briefed on the Metal Gear project by Baker; much like the DARPA Chief, he dies of a sudden heart attack before revealing key information. Snake then contacts Meryl via Codec, and agrees to meet her in the base's warhead disposal area on the condition that he contacts Metal Gear's designer, Hal "Otacon" Emmerich. While searching for him, Snake encounters the giant Vulcan Raven in an M1 Abrams tank, which he disables, and locates Otacon in his lab. The cyborg ninja Snake previously encountered reappears, and after a hand-to-hand battle and some taunting, disappears as suddenly as he appeared. Solid Snake figures out that the cyborg ninja is actually his former ally Gray Fox, who Snake believed he had killed years earlier. Before they can settle their score, the ninja vanishes again. Otacon is unaware that Metal Gear is a nuclear delivery system, and breaks down when Snake informs him. Snake tells Otacon that he is continuing his family's close involvement with the US nuclear program. He agrees to aid Snake remotely, using special camouflage to procure information and supplies while remaining unseen. Snake meets with Meryl and they discuss their differing roles as soldiers. Meryl having joined the military to feel closer to her father, who was killed in action, and his brother (Roy Campbell). Ultimately he allows her to accompany him on his mission. Meryl gives Snake what seems to be one of three PAL keys and they head for the underground base. Their reunion is brief, as Meryl attacks Snake while under the telepathic control of Psycho Mantis. After Snake defeats Psycho Mantis, Sniper Wolf ambushes and wounds Meryl, eventually capturing Snake in the process. While imprisoned, Liquid confirms Snake's suspicion that they are twin brothers. Snake is tortured by Ocelot and the player can choose to give in to this torture, or not. Snake quickly escapes and, after being chased to the top of the base's Communications Tower, he encounters Liquid again in a Hind-D attack helicopter. Despite being out gunned, Snake shoots the helicopter down and upon descending the tower is yet again ambushed by Sniper Wolf but kills her following a second duel. Otacon, enamored with her, is overwhelmed with grief but continues to assist Snake. Snake descends into the bowels of the Shadow Moses facility, first cutting through the base forge then into the warehouses below. Here he encounters Raven again, this time on foot, and kills him. Before Raven dies, he reveals that the DARPA Chief who Snake encountered was actually FOXHOUND member Decoy Octopus in disguise. Shortly after, Master Miller calls and reveals that Dr. Naomi Hunter, a support agent, had given Solid Snake the genetically engineered virus "FoxDie" during his mission preparations, and is sending coded messages into the facility. Campbell swiftly orders her arrest. The virus, designed to kill people with particular genetic markers via cardiac arrest, was responsible for the deaths of Octopus and the ArmsTech president. Naomi, struck by guilt, contacts Snake in secret and confesses that she joined the mission to sabotage it as she is the adoptive sister of the now barely human Gray Fox. Upon learning of Snake's own tragic past through the current mission, she no longer has the heart to kill him directly having reprogrammed the virus. Infiltrating Metal Gear's hangar, Snake discovers that the warhead Liquid plans to fire is targeted for Lop Nor in China. Liquid explains to Ocelot that Lop Nor is a nuclear test site and can be concealed from the public while the United States are forced to deal with a retaliatory strike from China. Using the PAL key, Snake unknowingly activates Metal Gear REX after which Master Miller reveals himself to be Liquid in disguise. He informs Snake that his entire mission was manipulated by the renegades to allow the launch of the nuclear weapon. As he boards REX, Liquid explains that they are the product of the Les Enfants Terribles project, a government sponsored effort to clone legendary mercenary Big Boss that was conducted during the 1970s. However, part of the process required that their genes be altered. Solid received all of Big Boss' dominant genes while Liquid received all the recessive genes.] Drawn into battle with Metal Gear REX, Snake manages to disable the machine's sensors with the aid of Otacon. Gray Fox (who admits to being Snake's radio informant, "Deepthroat") fights the Metal Gear, but is wounded and crushed by its foot. Once the Metal Gear is destroyed Liquid explains to Snake how the Genome soldiers and the Gulf War babies were genetically related to them. He challenges Snake to a final fist-fight atop Metal Gear. After Snake succeeds he is reunited with Meryl or Otacon, depending on the player's actions (see next paragraph). After a protracted jeep-chase between Snake and Liquid, their jeeps crash. Snake finally escapes the facility while Liquid collapses and dies from the FoxDie virus. Colonel Campbell, briefly ousted from command of the mission, calls off a nuclear airstrike intended to obliterate the evidence of the day's events and officially declares Snake killed in action to stop the US Government's search for him in the future. In the aftermath, the player finds out Snake is actually genetically inferior to Liquid and has an indeterminate amount of time left before FoxDie kills him. Ocelot himself is revealed to be a double agent for the President of the United States, the third Snake, Solidus. Ocelot's intention was to obtain Baker's disk containing Metal Gear's specifications and deliver it to the President. There are two possible endings depending on the player's actions during the game. If the player gives into the torture, Snake finds Meryl dead and escapes with Otacon. If the player does not give into the torture, Meryl survives and escapes with Snake while Otacon volunteers to stay behind and sacrifice himself to help Snake and Meryl get out, not knowing that the air strike intended to hit Shadow Moses would not come. In either ending, Otacon survives the airstrike. Sons of Liberty opens on a dark, foreboding George Washington Bridge in New York City, in 2007, two years after the Shadow Moses Island incident (the events of the original Metal Gear Solid). Solid Snake and Otacon, now members of the NGO Philanthropy, are investigating the development of a new Metal Gearconsistently described as being amphibious and having been designed as a counter-Metal Gear unit to "wipe the floor with all the other models"which have been built since Metal Gear REX's design was leaked. Shortly after Snake's arrival on the disguised oil tanker U.S.S. Discovery, a group of Russian terrorists under the command of Russian nationalist Sergei Gurlukovich attack the ship. After sneaking up to the bridge, Snake encounters Olga, Sergei's daughter, who has refused to leave the tanker despite being pregnant. After he successfully tranquilizes her in combat, he sneaks his way down to the holds in order to record pictures of the new Metal Gear, RAY, an amphibious anti-Metal Gear prototype. Matters rapidly escalate as Revolver Ocelot betrays and murders Sergei Gurlukovich It is revealed that Ocelot has received a new arm following Metal Gear Solid, that of the late Liquid Snake, which via unknown means causes a change in Revolver Ocelot's demeanor and behavior, with Liquid somehow 'possessing' him.Under Liquid's control he sinks the tanker, and escapes with RAY before regaining command of his body. The player finds himself in control of Raiden, supposedly operating under a reformed FOXHOUND two years after the Tanker Chapter on April 29,2009. Initially referred to as "Snake", his orders are to rescue hostages, including the US President, from the terrorist group Sons of Liberty, who are also threatening to destroy the Big Shell Clean-Up Facility they have seized. Raiden infiltrates the Shell via sea while SEAL Team 10 enters by air. He joins forces up with SEAL Lieutenant Junior Grade Iroquois Pliskin and bomb specialist Peter Stillman to disable explosives planted on the Shell by Stillman's former pupil, Fatman, now a member of the terrorists. While Raiden successfully eliminates Fatman, Stillman is killed as a result of one of Fatman's traps. With the assistance of a mysterious cyborg ninja calling itself Mr. X,Raiden locates the President, and discovers that the Big Shell is the development facility for a new Metal Gear. Known as Arsenal Gear, it houses a powerful AI supercomputer, "GW", capable of controlling information transmitted over the Internet. The President also claims the democratic process is a sham, and the true rulers of the United States are an organization known as the Patriots. Revolver Ocelot kills him soon after, and Raiden proceeds to his final objective: disabling Arsenal Gear and thus halting a nuclear strike. Pliskin, having revealed himself as the true Solid Snake, and Emma Emmerich, an Arsenal Gear engineer, assist Raiden in attempting to destroy the "GW" AI by uploading a virus. On the way to the computer room, Vamp attacks Emma. The virus transfer is still installed, but aborts partway through; Emma dies due to a fatal knife wound from the attack from Vamp. Snake and Raiden are left with no choice but to disable Arsenal physically. As Snake's partner Otacon escapes with the surviving hostages by helicopter, Mr. X returns, revealing itself to be Olga Gurlukovich, and knocks Raiden unconscious by hitting him in the back with her sword. Awakening naked in an Arsenal torture chamber, Raiden is probed by Solidus Snake, the true terrorist leader. Solidus reveals that he once adopted Raiden, a former child soldier, as his son during an unspecified African civil war[48] and that Raiden is now a Patriot agent. Olga, working as a Patriot double-agent within the Sons of Liberty, helps Raiden escape, and he locates Snake within Arsenal Gear. As they fight through the mammoth vessel, Raiden's commanding officer begins to act extremely erratically. It becomes apparent that the "Colonel" that Raiden has been taking orders from is actually a creation of the GW super-computer, pieced together from information about Colonel Roy Campbell coupled with Raiden's own expectations in order to manipulate him. The erratic behavior of the simulation is the result of the virus uploaded earlier beginning to damage GW's systems. With Snake holding off a vengeful Fortune, Raiden is forced into battle with the battalion of 25 Metal Gear RAY units guarding the Big Shell. Olga intervenes to protect him, but is restrained by one of Solidus' robotic tentacles. Olga explains that 2 years ago, right after giving birth to her child, the Patriots took her away and have been holding her child hostage ever since. Olga continues to explain that the Patriots blackmailed her, ordering her to become a double-agent and make the S3 plan a success or her child would be killed. After explaining, Solidus shoots Olga in the head and throws her corpse out of the way. Her last words are: "Live, you have to!" The RAY units begin to malfunction, attacking each other and Solidus as the virus tears through the GW AI's program. Arsenal begins an emergency ascent,[51] and Snake- now restrained by Fortune Solidus, and Raiden are carried to the roof of the fortress as it surfaces. To Solidus' increasing rage, Ocelot reveals that he too is a Patriot agent, the entire episode of the day was a carefully coordinated attempt to reenact the events of the Shadow Moses Incident; what Ocelot describes as the 'S3 Plan', or Solid Snake Simulation, designed to turn Raiden into the perfect soldier.[53] He kills Fortune and boards the prototype Metal Gear RAY stolen from the Tanker two years previous, and attempts to finish off the survivors of the exercise. However, Liquid possesses him, and announces his plan to hunt down the Patriots based on his host's knowledge. Setting Arsenal on a collision-course with New York, Liquid-Ocelot launches RAY into the ocean, followed by Snake. Arsenal comes to a halt in downtown New York, launching Raiden and Solidus onto the roof of Federal Hall. Solidus reveals to Raiden his reasons for trying to steal Arsenal: a nuclear electro-magnetic pulse would take down Manhattan's digital infrastructure and allow Solidus to lead it as a republic against the Patriots, a nation of "Sons of Liberty". Likewise the Patriots, via another AI contact Raiden to reveal the truth of their actions, the AIs being programmed to becoming "digital censors", removing trite and needless information from the electronic world in what they call "Selection for Societal Sanity", or "S3 Plan". The information fed to Ocelot was another part of this plan. However, with such a control over the flow of digital information, they could as easily be manipulating perceived history for the Patriot's needs. Believing the only option available is to track down the Patriots using the information in Raiden's neural implants, Solidus offers his son one final duel. Raiden defeats Solidus, and as crowds descend upon the wreckage of Arsenal Gear, Snake and Raiden meet one last time, where his mentor informs him that only he can choose what to believe in, and that he must pass on what he believes to be true. Having planted a tracking device on Liquid-Ocelot's Metal Gear, he and Otacon plan to follow him, and to hunt down the Patriots, whose details were hidden in the GW computer virus disc. As Snake disappears into the crowd, Raiden is finally reunited with Rose, on April 30, 2009 - the 220th anniversary of George Washington's inauguration as President of the United States, and the anniversary of Rose and Raiden's first meeting. In a brief epilogue, Otacon and Snake discuss the decoding of the virus disc, which reveals that all 12 members of the Wisemen's Committee (the Patriots' high council) have been dead for approximately 100 years, and that one of them is a major sponsor of Philanthropy.
Mr. Bananagrabber Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Awesome gameplay, plot and pretty much everything aside, Metal Gear Solid 3 is worth playing just for the ending. Not so manly tears ;_;
Calza Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Is anybody actually buying this is the last Metal Gear Solid game? I know Konami have said it won't be the last Metal Gear but if the ending to 4 is anything like I think it will then I don't see how Kojima can continue the story. And no to anything to do with Raiden as the main character.
Cube Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Is anybody actually buying this is the last Metal Gear Solid game? http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/05/metal-gear-so-2.html "I think there's been some misconceptions that this is the last Metal Gear," said Payton to MTV Multiplayer. "This is really just the last chapter of the saga of the Solid Snake story."
martinist Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 Awesome gameplay, plot and pretty much everything aside, Metal Gear Solid 3 is worth playing just for the ending. Not so manly tears ;_; i also cried manly tears...i also indulged in some manly sobbing
Helmsly Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 *Salutes MGS3's end credits while a single tear rolls down my face*
flameboy Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 It some hints with a girl looking into the future and unknown villain. Also talking about MGS3 links to MGS2 with Ocelot history and family ties. Understanding 'Soild' Timeline Metal Gear Solid 3 is set during the Cold War in 1964, where Naked Snake is sent to the jungles of the Soviet Union. Aided over radio by Major Zero, Para-Medic, and his former mentor The Boss, his mission is to rescue a defecting Soviet scientist named Sokolov who is secretly developing an advanced nuclear-equipped tank called the "Shagohod." The mission goes smoothly until The Boss defects and provides her new benefactor Colonel Volgin with two Davy Crockett miniature nuclear shells.Sokolov is captured by the Cobra Unit and Snake is heavily injured in combat by The Boss, allowing Volgin and his cohorts to escape with the Shagohod. Volgin detonates one of the nuclear shells to cover up its theft, which is subsequently blamed on The Boss. Having detected the US aircraft which deployed Snake flying over Soviet soil, the Soviet Union declares the United States responsible for the atomic attack, tipping both nations to the edge of a nuclear war. In a secret conference between US President Lyndon Johnson and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, a deal is hatched to prove the US's innocence and restore peace. The United States agree to stop Volgin's renegade faction, destroy the stolen Shagohod and eliminate the American defector, The Boss. A week after being rescued from the region, Snake is redeployed into the Soviet jungle as part of Operation Snake Eater, to fulfill the United States' promises. During the mission, he gains the assistance of another American defector, ex-NSA agent EVA, who defected a few years earlier. After numerous encounters with the elite Ocelot Unit (led by a young Ocelot), and defeating every member of the Cobra Unit, Snake succeeds in locating Sokolov and the stolen Shagohod, only to be captured in Volgin's military fortress, Groznyj Grad. After witnessing the apparent death of Sokolov, Snake is tortured and has his eye shot out when Ocelot shoots to kill EVA; Snake ultimately escapes. When he returns to the facility to destroy the Shagohod, Snake learns of The Philosophers. Made up of the most powerful men in the United States, Soviet Union, and China, they are an Illuminati-like organization who control the world behind the scenes. However, after the end of World War II, they began to fight amongst themselves, and the organization broke down. The Philosopher's Legacy, a fund the organization had jointly amassed to finance their wars ($100 billion, about $1 trillion today when adjusted for inflation) was divided up and hidden in banks all over the world.Volgin had illegally inherited this money, and Snake learns that the US is attempting to retrieve it. Snake continues his mission, destroying the facility and the Shagohod tank, while engaging Volgin, who is killed by a bolt of lightning during the battle. Snake and EVA travel to a lake, where a ground effect vehicle is hidden. Before they use it to escape the region, Snake confronts his old mentor, The Boss, whom he must kill to complete his mission. During this time a cut-scence is shown stating that The Boss gave birth to a child (The father being The Sorrow) during a battle. Before this time however, during a radio call, EVA tells Snake that the reason Ocelot achieved the rank of major at such a young age was due to the fact that his parents were legendary soldiers. She also tells Snake that Ocelot's mother needed to cut Ocelot out during the birth, leaving a snake-like scar. This scar is seen on The Boss, which proves that she is Ocelot's mother. After an emotional battle, Snake overcomes his feelings and defeats her. He and EVA escape to Alaska, and spend the night together. During the night EVA disappears, and leaves behind a tape revealing herself to be a Chinese spy sent to steal the Philosophers Legacy for China. The tape continues, and EVA reveals that The Boss did not defect to the Soviet Union; rather, she was under orders to pretend to defect so she could infiltrate Volgin's ranks and find the location of the Legacy, which could be brought back to America. The final part of her mission was to sacrifice her honor and die at the hands of Snake, under the guise of a traitor, to prove the US's innocence in Volgin's nuclear attack from the beginning of the game. Snake is awarded the title of "Big Boss" and given the Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts. Later, he arrives at an anonymous grave, The Boss', just one of thousands in the huge military cemetery he visits. Laying down The Boss' gun and a bouquet of lilies upon the nameless gravestone he scans the endless rows before him, salutes, and sheds a single tear. After the credits roll, Ocelot is heard talking (a telephone conversation), and reveals that the microfilm containing the information on the Philosopher's Legacy given to EVA was a fake, that Ocelot himself was ADAM, that half of the real legacy is in the hands of the US Government thanks to Snake, and that he was working for the CIA. Six years after the events of "Operation: Snake Eater", portrayed in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, Naked Snake's former team, FOX Unit, has broken their allegiance with the CIA and gone renegade. Snake himself is also targeted by the FOX Unit, which sent renegade FOX Unit soldiers to attack and capture him. The game begins with Snake being tortured and interrogated by one of the members of FOX, Lieutenant Cunningham, who's trying to locate the whereabouts of the missing half of the Philosopher's Legacy, with the United States Government having already acquired the other half of the Legacy from the Soviet Union at the conclusion of Snake Eater. Snake is imprisoned in a cell next to Roy Campbell, the sole survivor of an American Green Beret team sent in to investigate the base. Snake learns through Roy that they're on the San Hieronymo Peninsula, the site of an abandoned Soviet missile silo in Colombia. The two escape and Snake makes his way to a communications base, where he attempts to contact his old CO, Major Zero. Instead, he is greeted by his old FOX comrades Para-Medic and Sigint, who reveal that Snake and Zero are being accused of instigating the revolt and that the only way for Snake to clear their name is to find and apprehend the leader of the rebellion, Gene. To complicate matters, Gene has also convinced most of the Russian soldiers stationed on the base to join their side by simply taking over the chain of command of a former Red Army unit, that was secretly stationed inside the Colombian territory. In order to complete his mission, Snake must persuade enemy soldiers to join his ranks because of the scale of his mission. Snake and his squad defeat the top members of the FOX unit (if defeated by reducing their stamina to zero instead of their HP, some of the FOX members will join Snake's squad, this includes Null and Python) and eventually they make their way into Gene's guesthouse. Snake learns many things on his way. Cunningham was working for the Pentagon and wanted Snake to push Gene into launching a nuke to Russia to prolong the Cold War (so the Pentagon could keep their importance). Gene was actually aware of this plan the whole time from information from Ocelot. Gene really wanted to launch a nuke at America to destroy the Philosophers and to make his nation of soldiers, "Army's Heaven". Snake destroys an experimental model of Metal Gear codenamed RAXA and eventually defeats Gene, destroying the real Metal Gear itself afterwards. After Gene is defeated he gives Big Boss the funds, equipment, personnel, and all other information regarding Army's Heaven, telling him that one day, he will need to use them. On his return home, Snake is awarded for his actions and establishes FOXHOUND afterwards. In the end it is revealed Ocelot kills the DCI and takes the Philosophers documents to "end them". After the credits, Ocelot speaks with an unknown man on the phone. Ocelot speaks of using the Legacy to form the Patriots in place of the Philosophers. Ocelot actually wanted the trajectory data of the nuke to point to the DCI so he would bring the documents right to him. Ocelot requests Big Boss be able to 'join' them (he and the man on the phone) in their new endeavor - becoming the Patriots. The game is set in 2005 (six years after the events of Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake), where FOXHOUND and the genetically-enhanced Next-Generation Special Forces unit lead an armed uprising at Shadow Moses, a remote isle located in Alaska's Fox Archipelago and the site of a nuclear weapons disposal facility. In the process they acquire Metal Gear REX, a nuclear-capable walking tank, and threaten the U.S. government with a nuclear reprisal if they do not receive the remains of the "legendary mercenary" Big Boss. Solid Snake, in retirement at Alaska's Twin Lakes, is forcibly dispatched at the request of Colonel Roy Campbell to penetrate the terrorist defenses and neutralize the threat. Solid Snake first locates hostage Donald Anderson, the DARPA chief. After he informs Snake of the new Metal Gear REX unit housed at the facility, and its deactivation procedure, he mysteriously dies of what appears to be a heart attack.Following a brief encounter with Meryl Silverburgh, who aids their escape from the base prison, Snake continues on to find the other hostage, ArmsTech president Kenneth Baker. He is used as bait by Revolver Ocelot and challenges Snake to a gunfight. The fight is interrupted by the arrival of a mysterious cyborg ninja who severs Ocelot's right hand before escaping. Snake is again briefed on the Metal Gear project by Baker; much like the DARPA Chief, he dies of a sudden heart attack before revealing key information. Snake then contacts Meryl via Codec, and agrees to meet her in the base's warhead disposal area on the condition that he contacts Metal Gear's designer, Hal "Otacon" Emmerich. While searching for him, Snake encounters the giant Vulcan Raven in an M1 Abrams tank, which he disables, and locates Otacon in his lab. The cyborg ninja Snake previously encountered reappears, and after a hand-to-hand battle and some taunting, disappears as suddenly as he appeared. Solid Snake figures out that the cyborg ninja is actually his former ally Gray Fox, who Snake believed he had killed years earlier. Before they can settle their score, the ninja vanishes again. Otacon is unaware that Metal Gear is a nuclear delivery system, and breaks down when Snake informs him. Snake tells Otacon that he is continuing his family's close involvement with the US nuclear program. He agrees to aid Snake remotely, using special camouflage to procure information and supplies while remaining unseen. Snake meets with Meryl and they discuss their differing roles as soldiers. Meryl having joined the military to feel closer to her father, who was killed in action, and his brother (Roy Campbell). Ultimately he allows her to accompany him on his mission. Meryl gives Snake what seems to be one of three PAL keys and they head for the underground base. Their reunion is brief, as Meryl attacks Snake while under the telepathic control of Psycho Mantis. After Snake defeats Psycho Mantis, Sniper Wolf ambushes and wounds Meryl, eventually capturing Snake in the process. While imprisoned, Liquid confirms Snake's suspicion that they are twin brothers. Snake is tortured by Ocelot and the player can choose to give in to this torture, or not. Snake quickly escapes and, after being chased to the top of the base's Communications Tower, he encounters Liquid again in a Hind-D attack helicopter. Despite being out gunned, Snake shoots the helicopter down and upon descending the tower is yet again ambushed by Sniper Wolf but kills her following a second duel. Otacon, enamored with her, is overwhelmed with grief but continues to assist Snake. Snake descends into the bowels of the Shadow Moses facility, first cutting through the base forge then into the warehouses below. Here he encounters Raven again, this time on foot, and kills him. Before Raven dies, he reveals that the DARPA Chief who Snake encountered was actually FOXHOUND member Decoy Octopus in disguise. Shortly after, Master Miller calls and reveals that Dr. Naomi Hunter, a support agent, had given Solid Snake the genetically engineered virus "FoxDie" during his mission preparations, and is sending coded messages into the facility. Campbell swiftly orders her arrest. The virus, designed to kill people with particular genetic markers via cardiac arrest, was responsible for the deaths of Octopus and the ArmsTech president. Naomi, struck by guilt, contacts Snake in secret and confesses that she joined the mission to sabotage it as she is the adoptive sister of the now barely human Gray Fox. Upon learning of Snake's own tragic past through the current mission, she no longer has the heart to kill him directly having reprogrammed the virus. Infiltrating Metal Gear's hangar, Snake discovers that the warhead Liquid plans to fire is targeted for Lop Nor in China. Liquid explains to Ocelot that Lop Nor is a nuclear test site and can be concealed from the public while the United States are forced to deal with a retaliatory strike from China. Using the PAL key, Snake unknowingly activates Metal Gear REX after which Master Miller reveals himself to be Liquid in disguise. He informs Snake that his entire mission was manipulated by the renegades to allow the launch of the nuclear weapon. As he boards REX, Liquid explains that they are the product of the Les Enfants Terribles project, a government sponsored effort to clone legendary mercenary Big Boss that was conducted during the 1970s. However, part of the process required that their genes be altered. Solid received all of Big Boss' dominant genes while Liquid received all the recessive genes.] Drawn into battle with Metal Gear REX, Snake manages to disable the machine's sensors with the aid of Otacon. Gray Fox (who admits to being Snake's radio informant, "Deepthroat") fights the Metal Gear, but is wounded and crushed by its foot. Once the Metal Gear is destroyed Liquid explains to Snake how the Genome soldiers and the Gulf War babies were genetically related to them. He challenges Snake to a final fist-fight atop Metal Gear. After Snake succeeds he is reunited with Meryl or Otacon, depending on the player's actions (see next paragraph). After a protracted jeep-chase between Snake and Liquid, their jeeps crash. Snake finally escapes the facility while Liquid collapses and dies from the FoxDie virus. Colonel Campbell, briefly ousted from command of the mission, calls off a nuclear airstrike intended to obliterate the evidence of the day's events and officially declares Snake killed in action to stop the US Government's search for him in the future. In the aftermath, the player finds out Snake is actually genetically inferior to Liquid and has an indeterminate amount of time left before FoxDie kills him. Ocelot himself is revealed to be a double agent for the President of the United States, the third Snake, Solidus. Ocelot's intention was to obtain Baker's disk containing Metal Gear's specifications and deliver it to the President. There are two possible endings depending on the player's actions during the game. If the player gives into the torture, Snake finds Meryl dead and escapes with Otacon. If the player does not give into the torture, Meryl survives and escapes with Snake while Otacon volunteers to stay behind and sacrifice himself to help Snake and Meryl get out, not knowing that the air strike intended to hit Shadow Moses would not come. In either ending, Otacon survives the airstrike. Sons of Liberty opens on a dark, foreboding George Washington Bridge in New York City, in 2007, two years after the Shadow Moses Island incident (the events of the original Metal Gear Solid). Solid Snake and Otacon, now members of the NGO Philanthropy, are investigating the development of a new Metal Gearconsistently described as being amphibious and having been designed as a counter-Metal Gear unit to "wipe the floor with all the other models"which have been built since Metal Gear REX's design was leaked. Shortly after Snake's arrival on the disguised oil tanker U.S.S. Discovery, a group of Russian terrorists under the command of Russian nationalist Sergei Gurlukovich attack the ship. After sneaking up to the bridge, Snake encounters Olga, Sergei's daughter, who has refused to leave the tanker despite being pregnant. After he successfully tranquilizes her in combat, he sneaks his way down to the holds in order to record pictures of the new Metal Gear, RAY, an amphibious anti-Metal Gear prototype. Matters rapidly escalate as Revolver Ocelot betrays and murders Sergei Gurlukovich It is revealed that Ocelot has received a new arm following Metal Gear Solid, that of the late Liquid Snake, which via unknown means causes a change in Revolver Ocelot's demeanor and behavior, with Liquid somehow 'possessing' him.Under Liquid's control he sinks the tanker, and escapes with RAY before regaining command of his body. The player finds himself in control of Raiden, supposedly operating under a reformed FOXHOUND two years after the Tanker Chapter on April 29,2009. Initially referred to as "Snake", his orders are to rescue hostages, including the US President, from the terrorist group Sons of Liberty, who are also threatening to destroy the Big Shell Clean-Up Facility they have seized. Raiden infiltrates the Shell via sea while SEAL Team 10 enters by air. He joins forces up with SEAL Lieutenant Junior Grade Iroquois Pliskin and bomb specialist Peter Stillman to disable explosives planted on the Shell by Stillman's former pupil, Fatman, now a member of the terrorists. While Raiden successfully eliminates Fatman, Stillman is killed as a result of one of Fatman's traps. With the assistance of a mysterious cyborg ninja calling itself Mr. X,Raiden locates the President, and discovers that the Big Shell is the development facility for a new Metal Gear. Known as Arsenal Gear, it houses a powerful AI supercomputer, "GW", capable of controlling information transmitted over the Internet. The President also claims the democratic process is a sham, and the true rulers of the United States are an organization known as the Patriots. Revolver Ocelot kills him soon after, and Raiden proceeds to his final objective: disabling Arsenal Gear and thus halting a nuclear strike. Pliskin, having revealed himself as the true Solid Snake, and Emma Emmerich, an Arsenal Gear engineer, assist Raiden in attempting to destroy the "GW" AI by uploading a virus. On the way to the computer room, Vamp attacks Emma. The virus transfer is still installed, but aborts partway through; Emma dies due to a fatal knife wound from the attack from Vamp. Snake and Raiden are left with no choice but to disable Arsenal physically. As Snake's partner Otacon escapes with the surviving hostages by helicopter, Mr. X returns, revealing itself to be Olga Gurlukovich, and knocks Raiden unconscious by hitting him in the back with her sword. Awakening naked in an Arsenal torture chamber, Raiden is probed by Solidus Snake, the true terrorist leader. Solidus reveals that he once adopted Raiden, a former child soldier, as his son during an unspecified African civil war[48] and that Raiden is now a Patriot agent. Olga, working as a Patriot double-agent within the Sons of Liberty, helps Raiden escape, and he locates Snake within Arsenal Gear. As they fight through the mammoth vessel, Raiden's commanding officer begins to act extremely erratically. It becomes apparent that the "Colonel" that Raiden has been taking orders from is actually a creation of the GW super-computer, pieced together from information about Colonel Roy Campbell coupled with Raiden's own expectations in order to manipulate him. The erratic behavior of the simulation is the result of the virus uploaded earlier beginning to damage GW's systems. With Snake holding off a vengeful Fortune, Raiden is forced into battle with the battalion of 25 Metal Gear RAY units guarding the Big Shell. Olga intervenes to protect him, but is restrained by one of Solidus' robotic tentacles. Olga explains that 2 years ago, right after giving birth to her child, the Patriots took her away and have been holding her child hostage ever since. Olga continues to explain that the Patriots blackmailed her, ordering her to become a double-agent and make the S3 plan a success or her child would be killed. After explaining, Solidus shoots Olga in the head and throws her corpse out of the way. Her last words are: "Live, you have to!" The RAY units begin to malfunction, attacking each other and Solidus as the virus tears through the GW AI's program. Arsenal begins an emergency ascent,[51] and Snake- now restrained by Fortune Solidus, and Raiden are carried to the roof of the fortress as it surfaces. To Solidus' increasing rage, Ocelot reveals that he too is a Patriot agent, the entire episode of the day was a carefully coordinated attempt to reenact the events of the Shadow Moses Incident; what Ocelot describes as the 'S3 Plan', or Solid Snake Simulation, designed to turn Raiden into the perfect soldier.[53] He kills Fortune and boards the prototype Metal Gear RAY stolen from the Tanker two years previous, and attempts to finish off the survivors of the exercise. However, Liquid possesses him, and announces his plan to hunt down the Patriots based on his host's knowledge. Setting Arsenal on a collision-course with New York, Liquid-Ocelot launches RAY into the ocean, followed by Snake. Arsenal comes to a halt in downtown New York, launching Raiden and Solidus onto the roof of Federal Hall. Solidus reveals to Raiden his reasons for trying to steal Arsenal: a nuclear electro-magnetic pulse would take down Manhattan's digital infrastructure and allow Solidus to lead it as a republic against the Patriots, a nation of "Sons of Liberty". Likewise the Patriots, via another AI contact Raiden to reveal the truth of their actions, the AIs being programmed to becoming "digital censors", removing trite and needless information from the electronic world in what they call "Selection for Societal Sanity", or "S3 Plan". The information fed to Ocelot was another part of this plan. However, with such a control over the flow of digital information, they could as easily be manipulating perceived history for the Patriot's needs. Believing the only option available is to track down the Patriots using the information in Raiden's neural implants, Solidus offers his son one final duel. Raiden defeats Solidus, and as crowds descend upon the wreckage of Arsenal Gear, Snake and Raiden meet one last time, where his mentor informs him that only he can choose what to believe in, and that he must pass on what he believes to be true. Having planted a tracking device on Liquid-Ocelot's Metal Gear, he and Otacon plan to follow him, and to hunt down the Patriots, whose details were hidden in the GW computer virus disc. As Snake disappears into the crowd, Raiden is finally reunited with Rose, on April 30, 2009 - the 220th anniversary of George Washington's inauguration as President of the United States, and the anniversary of Rose and Raiden's first meeting. In a brief epilogue, Otacon and Snake discuss the decoding of the virus disc, which reveals that all 12 members of the Wisemen's Committee (the Patriots' high council) have been dead for approximately 100 years, and that one of them is a major sponsor of Philanthropy. cheers! all good
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