PlayStation 3 Console Discussion

[Sheikah]

No I'll be glad for you to get Demon's Souls. I'll have done with it by the time it hits here, plus we're a gaming community here so it's not going to be unusual to see a few people cropping up playing it online. When it's all you friends and cousins buying a game you thought was going to be less commercial it does reduce that new-game vibe somewhat.

On the contrary, if everyone's buying it there's a high chance that it's very good. Obviously there are exceptions, like recurrent FIFA titles, but these generally aren't accompanied by the rave reviews like with this game. I don't get why you don't like that lots of people are buying it. Is it some sort of elitist "I'm the only one who has realised this gem' notion?

 

The more people who get it, the more people you can play online with. On Demon's Souls, within my level range, there's typically no people to summon at the start of most levels now (except certain hotspots). And when fighting the Old Monk, it's usually an NPC now because there's not enough players placing soul stones down. I'd be overjoyed if there were more people playing the same game so I could have had people to play with. Plus, when you do buy Red Dead when it has gone cheap there'll be people still playing it because it's popular. Unlike with Demon's Souls...where the online popularity at higher levels has dwindled quite a lot all these months after US release.

 

I don't like Sandbox games generally speaking. Didn't enjoy the demo for JC2 either, I made a post detailing everything I didn't like about the game, it was quite extensive, but for some reason it was lost in one of the forum updates.

Sorry to backhand your suggestion.

Well you loved Fallout 3. This game is just as sandbox as Fallout 3 in terms of exploration, sidequests and depth.

 

It's a perfectly legitimate stance to take. Popularity does remove a certain sense of intimacy with a product.

 

It's definitely one of the reasons I prefer Majora's Mask to Ocarina of Time.

 

I prefer MM solely because it's fantastic and an overall better game than OoT. The fact less people like it doesn't make me prefer it any more. :p

Edited May 25, 2010 by Sheikah
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[dwarf]

On the contrary, if everyone's buying it there's a high chance that it's very good. Obviously there are exceptions, like recurrent FIFA titles, but these generally aren't accompanied by the rave reviews like with this game. I don't get why you don't like that lots of people are buying it. Is it some sort of elitist "I'm the only one who has realised this gem' notion?

 

The more people who get it, the more people you can play online with.

 

 

Well you loved Fallout 3. This game is just as sandbox as Fallout 3 in terms of exploration, sidequests and depth.

Can I just clear this up? - I've never questioned the quality of Red Dead, I just said that it hampers the feeling of that new game somewhat when you have tons of other people playing it. For example, playing GUN on the Gamecube felt like I was alone in its world. This game is set up to be an online experience when I thought it was catering for a solo feel. I have no doubt the game is good online, it's just I thought it would be much more niche, and remind me of GUN in a way.

 

If the game in question is Bad Company 2, or any game that I buy for online, then I'm glad about popularity.

 

And this is why you irritate me sometimes, I've mentioned it before: You act extremely confrontational. Phrase your questions differently please, otherwise it sounds like you're bludgeoning every point you disagree with instead of posting an honest, friendly question. It's almost as if you have to comment on every part of someone's post even if there's only really one aspect you stand against.

 

Firstly - no, it isn't elitism. Very judgemental comment there. Maybe you don't understand that a game may appeal more to me if it's less mainstream, but not due to the fact that I think I'm better or more knowledgeable than others because I 'spotted' it.

 

There's a reason why I said 'generally' when referencing my sandbox dislike. Fallout 3 is an entirely different sandbox experience to the games that were mentioned i.e. Just Cause, and you were probably thinking of Red Dead. Games I could list in this pool that don't appeal to me include: GTA, Saints Row, Infamous, The Saboteur, Just Cause, Mercenaries, Red Faction, Prototype etc.

 

None of those are like Fallout. Fallout is completely different from those for obvious reasons, and it's sandbox has vastly different dimensions and potential. The atmosphere, the narrative that isn't just a throw away to interrupt you from engaging in 3rd person action, and the RPG nature being give-aways.

 

Now Red Dead Redemption for me doesn't belong in that list of titles I hate because, like Fallout, there are tons of focal points and extra things to do. That list of games feel like bunched together infrastructure, taking place in boring cities or towns, where you run around killing wave after wave of the same humans. RD:R and F3 almost brim with life in my eyes, and take place in interesting locales, as well as offering other elements that suit me more.

 

Now that is me, I'm not sure there's anything to argue here. No six pages of discussion. However, with you there probably is, and I'm guessing an expected breakdown of each individual paragraph I've made, that comes to a head when you try to tell me how you don't sound confrontational.

Edited May 25, 2010 by dwarf

[Sheikah]

 

And this is why you irritate me sometimes, I've mentioned it before: You act extremely confrontational. Phrase your questions differently please, otherwise it sounds like you're bludgeoning every point you disagree with instead of posting an honest, friendly question. It's almost as if you have to comment on every part of someone's post even if there's only really one aspect you stand against.

 

Seriously...I have no idea where you are. One minute I am helping you, spending several hours killing a boss for you online (or giving advice), and you seem grateful, but then the next minute you're moaning about my posts not sounding kind enough. I post on what I see; sorry if I'm not using flattering smilies here and there but I really don't see the point. It's the internet and I just don't care enough.

 

Firstly - no, it isn't elitism. Very judgemental comment there. Maybe you don't understand that a game may appeal more to me if it's less mainstream, but not due to the fact that I think I'm better or more knowledgeable than others because I 'spotted' it.

 

Can we just be clear: I like games solely for their content. If you start to factor in whether lots of other people like it or not you're basically starting to formulate opinions based on the opinions of others.

 

 

Now Red Dead Redemption for me doesn't belong in that list of titles I hate because, like Fallout, there are tons of focal points and extra things to do. That list of games feel like bunched together infrastructure, taking place in boring cities or towns, where you run around killing wave after wave of the same humans. RD:R and F3 almost brim with life in my eyes, and take place in interesting locales, as well as offering other elements that suit me more.

 

Yeah...so we agree? All I was saying is that you'd probably like this as even though you say you don't like sandbox games since I know you like Fallout 3. And this has the depth and immersiveness of Fallout 3.

 

Before calling others confrontational I would look to yourself, who has basically spent at least a good half of your post arguing about my character (which I never did about you).

 

EDIT: Quick funny, but I just scrolled up and noticed you also moaning at Cookyman for buying too many games! Grow up. :p

Edited May 25, 2010 by Sheikah

[Stewilo2005]

http://gizmodo.com/5547248/sonys-psn%252B-service-to-seriously-compete-with-xbox-live

 

Some of the features sound quite good like the access to the PsOne games, but $10 a month is a bit steep tbh, hopefully they'll perfect it. Sorry if it's been posted before btw

[Emasher]

If it really is $10 a month, I have a feeling that's not the entire feature list.

[Stewilo2005]

If it really is $10 a month, I have a feeling that's not the entire feature list.

 

True, I wonder what else they'll throw in, maybe a set number of movie downloads or something. Either way I can't wait for E3 xD

[dwarf]

Seriously...I have no idea where you are. One minute I am helping you, spending several hours killing a boss for you online (or giving advice), and you seem grateful, but then the next minute you're moaning about my posts not sounding kind enough. I post on what I see; sorry if I'm not using flattering smilies here and there but I really don't see the point. It's the internet and I just don't care enough.

 

 

 

Can we just be clear: I like games solely for their content. If you start to factor in whether lots of other people like it or not you're basically starting to formulate opinions based on the opinions of others.

 

 

 

 

Yeah...so we agree? All I was saying is that you'd probably like this as even though you say you don't like sandbox games since I know you like Fallout 3. And this has the depth and immersiveness of Fallout 3.

 

Before calling others confrontational I would look to yourself, who has basically spent at least a good half of your post arguing about my character (which I never did about you).

 

EDIT: Quick funny, but I just scrolled up and noticed you also moaning at Cookyman for buying too many games! Grow up. :p

Paragraph one: I've helped you, you've helped me, I've enjoyed and appreciated the Demon's Souls sessions. I'm just showing what I find annoying about some of your posts, even if I usually agree with you, I'm not expecting smilies, all I'd like was for you to chill out a bit.

The amount of arguments you get caught up in is amazing, and I understand why.

 

Paragraph 2: It's not about opinion. It just isn't, you actually don't get it. When you mentioned Smash Bros. and how everyone had it, but you still loved it; well, that's exactly the same as me with me. With this game I thought it would be an experience to share with just a select few. Even if this game were bad and I'd bought it, I'd still get that 'privileged' feel if it was sold badly. This applies to things other than games, like special objects etc that feel personal to you.

 

Of course this doesn't impact on the actual game and my opinion of it, I'd just preferred this to be niche because I thought it was going to be a fairly quiet title, adoption wise. 'Elitism' plays no part. What I originally said was that I was 'put off' slightly. Not enough to stop me buying, not enough to tarnish anything, it's just an external factor that is slightly bugging. I wish I hadn't brought it up now, it's been blown out of proportion.

 

Paragraph 3: My bad, didn't see the part after Fallout 3, but yeah, we can agree there. F3 and Red Dead are far more appealing than the standard sandbox games.

 

Paragraph 4: I'm not confrontational, I'm open to a joke, as I'm sure you are. It's just your posts are irritating on the eye in the way you probe at people. I don't find this whenever I have a different opinion to someone else here.

 

Your appeal to Cooky: As I've told you, I brought up Cooky's massive game library because he was always going to recommend Red Dead, so to him for me to complain about the niche feel is completely ridiculous. I have to be a bit wiser with my money, that's all. If you have the cash then fair enough.

[Ryan]

True, I wonder what else they'll throw in, maybe a set number of movie downloads or something. Either way I can't wait for E3 xD

 

I would of thought FirstPlay/Qore could of been included in the price too. Makes sense I suppose. I know I wouldn't pay for both subscriptions..

[MATtheHAT]

Oh please let it be true!

 

ICO and SotC in HD Collection PS3

[Sheikah]

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Hmm yeaaaah, I think I'm not the one needing to chill out.

 

Playing demon's souls online with you was fun but it wasn't really helping me (I'd completed the game twice when I started playing with you). And playing with you, what with the connecting issues and what have you, meant it actually took me a while longer than when I solo'd.

[dwarf]

Hmm yeaaaah, I think I'm not the one needing to chill out.

 

Playing demon's souls online with you was fun but it wasn't really helping me (I'd completed the game twice when I started playing with you). And playing with you, what with the connecting issues and what have you, meant it actually took me a while longer than when I solo'd.

So you didn't expect me to reply to you, explaining how you got it wrong? OK.

 

Well I thought I was helping, whether I was or wasn't; does it matter? Doesn't matter how many times you've completed it. Multiplayer is better than single player in most cases, bar the first playthrough in my opinion. Being a bit nasty there :wink:

[drahkon]

Oh please let it be true!

 

ICO and SotC in HD Collection PS3

 

That'd be awesome.

 

I would've tried to get them off ebay at the end of the year but not if an HD Collection gets confirmed. *crosses fingers*

[Goafer]

Oh please let it be true!

 

ICO and SotC in HD Collection PS3

 

That would be rather convenient. I've been looking to get them both soon and this would probably save me some money.

 

 

 

On a similar note: I've been wanting FF9 for ages and I got it a month or two ago. Now it's coming out on the PSN. Never mind, I would have got the disk version eventually anyway.

[MATtheHAT]

Anyone interested in Test Drive Unlimited 2 will probably be glad to know there is a BETA sign-up.

[Jon]

Here's a stupid question. When did the PS3 game boxes change design? do none of them come with that little red box that says PS3 on the spine anymore?

 

 

I prefer that version.

[Emasher]

Here's a stupid question. When did the PS3 game boxes change design? do none of them come with that little red box that says PS3 on the spine anymore?

 

 

I prefer that version.

 

When the slim came out. Uncharted 2 was one of the first games to use it.

[Goafer]

Here's a stupid question. When did the PS3 game boxes change design? do none of them come with that little red box that says PS3 on the spine anymore?

 

 

I prefer that version.

 

I don't remember any red boxes. Anyone got pictures of them?

[Happenstance]

When the slim came out. Uncharted 2 was one of the first games to use it.

 

My copy of Uncharted 2 still has the red box.

 

Ive got 3 games so far without them, dont like the fact that my collection looks different now

[dwarf]

My version of Uncharted 2 has the same old PS3 spine logo as my copies of Resistance 2 and Fifa 08. Bad Company 2 is my only game that has the new black PS3 logo that's parallel to the game title font.

 

Then again I only have 6 games.

[Emasher]

In North America at least, the greatest hits titles came in red cases. What he's refering to however are the small bits of red on the spines of the old (pre slim) case design.

 

I think the new design was only used with Uncharted 2 in North America.

Edited May 31, 2010 by Emasher

[Jon]

When the slim came out. Uncharted 2 was one of the first games to use it.

 

I have Uncharted 2 with the red box. All the new ones seem to have the PS3 logo bar on the top now instead of the side. Looks gay.

 

 

Goafer;

 

 

Edited May 31, 2010 by Jon

[Goafer]

Ah, I was expecting the plastic to be red.

 

2 of my games have the red strip (LBP and Valkyria Chronicles).

[Daft]

ProEvo 2011 is rumoured to have Move support.

[dwarf]

Player control in Pro-Evo is like handling a 60 year old Dodgems cart. Mechanically terrible and unbelievably clunky. Fifa's slightly better but gets boring like all football games that aren't irl.

 

Any guesses on what Move titles there will be at E3? Other than Pippa Funnel Compilation games?

[Daft]

Ape Escape.