ZeldaFreak Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Non gamers are the ones that don't buy those so-called mature games. The 'maturising' of the game industry with the PS1 has caused the degrading of sales in the first place, as the 'mature' games were too hardcore, so people didn't continue gaming after the (S)NES. The reason why the NES was so incredibly successful is because even the 'mature' games seemed innocent out of simplicity, and many adults liked it that way. Same goes for the PS2. Which games sold the most? Exactly, SingStar, Guitar Hero, Eyetoy and that stupid quiz game, not GTA. Those games were aimed at a mature/late teen audience and made the PS2 last a lot longer, yet they weren't filled with blood spatters but aimed to bring in as much non-gamers as possible. The ranking doesn't boost your sales, I don't know where you got that idea. It's easy generalising those kids by the way. You seem to know exactly how the gaming industry works, don't you? GTA was top of the charts for alot longer than the singstar games. No they were designed to get women playing games. And yes it does if you have a game that looks like a 12+ game and manage to push it up to a 16+ alot more people get interested in it. Can't wait till I'm making my first retail game. But the question is do you want a system actually aimed at delievering SingStar, Guitar Hero, Eyetoy style games as opposed to GTA's, Final Fantasy's and Metal Gear Solids? I hope the Wii doesn't stay in the minigame rut with third party developers. Maybe once Metriod is released and Zelda sales come in it might change. Oh I would like a true final fantasy game. No nintendo home console will get one. Metroid prime 3, may make it change peoples minds. But lets face it, Nintendo doesn't realise non gamers don't want to play games. And should just stop with it. I hated with a vengence wii sports. Not because it had a crap sensitivity issues with it. But the fact Nintendo was classing a demo as a full game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 And yes it does if you have a game that looks like a 12+ game and manage to push it up to a 16+ alot more people get interested in it.Do you think that because you think so the world thinks so, or do you have any proper arguments to back that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero-of-Time Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I still havent forgiven Capcom for not giving the western world Monster Hunter 2, GITS! But lets face it, Nintendo doesn't realise non gamers don't want to play games. And should just stop with it. The sales of the DS beg to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowV7 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 The only Capcom games I have is VJ 1 & 2.There games don't appeal to me all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenchris Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I still havent forgiven Capcom for not giving the western world Monster Hunter 2, GITS! The sales of the DS beg to differ. Exactly... and just like the DS.. the Wii sales will realy sky rocket when games like Animal crossing, brain training and any of the other non-games show up. Well thats what should happen in theory. Oh and thats if Nintendo can make them fast enough that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Oh I would like a true final fantasy game. No nintendo home console will get one. Well, if you ignore the fact that "true final fantasy games" started on a Nintendo home console.... But lets face it, Nintendo doesn't realise non gamers don't want to play games. And should just stop with it. Nintendo have convinced a lot of non-gamers to start playing games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I still havent forgiven Capcom for not giving the western world Monster Hunter 2, GITS! The sales of the DS beg to differ. I know the sales beg to differ but there are no deffinate figures in terms of who bought a ds was a non gamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I know the sales beg to differ but there are no deffinate figures in terms of who bought a ds was a non gamer. But what about sales for 'games' like Brain Training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Well, if you ignore the fact that "true final fantasy games" started on a Nintendo home console.... Nintendo have convinced a lot of non-gamers to start playing games... I know that what I should of said maybe was never again will nintendo get one. They haven't convinced them to play games - just use it as a brain training clock hardly anything there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I know that what I should of said maybe was never again will nintendo get one. They haven't convinced them to play games - just use it as a brain training clock hardly anything there. game (geim) n. any playful activity for amusement or diversion. You should realise that your vision on what makes stuff good or not is not the vision of the entire world. Square Enix is already making the next iteration of the Dragon Quest series for the DS exclusively and is yet again giving us a Crystal Chronicles game. Why wouldn't they give us Final Fantasy then? In fact, I can see SE porting FF XII to Wii just for the extra cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin von Snikbah Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 So if the Cube had more "childish" titles than the others. Could that mean more childish titles = less sales? Wow, what an amazing conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I think when Capcom means mature titles they mean anything other than minigame collections. So apart from RE and a few games other games, the rest will be minigame collections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I think when Capcom means mature titles they mean anything other than minigame collections. So apart from RE and a few games other games, the rest will be minigame collections. besides mario party 8.name another upcoming game that is a mini game collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 besides mario party 8.name another upcoming game that is a mini game collection We all know the Hitman game will involve 47 doing countless minigames in a colourful environment, and happy music; with no killing whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 We all know the Hitman game will involve 47 doing countless minigames in a colourful environment, and happy music; with no killing whatsoever. If they could somehow incorporate the killing into the minigames, your idea would be rather awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 besides mario party 8.name another upcoming game that is a mini game collection Tamegotchi Party On! We all know the Hitman game will involve 47 doing countless minigames in a colourful environment, and happy music; with no killing whatsoever. But there isn't going to be a hitman game on the wii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 We all know the Hitman game will involve 47 doing countless minigames in a colourful environment, and happy music; with no killing whatsoever. Tamegotchi Party On!. what what and what?have i missed something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 what what and what?have i missed something here? I didn't notice it at first, but he probably meant Manhunt or scarface or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 ya god i would like another hitman.the gamecube got hitman 2 and that was all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I didn't notice it at first, but he probably meant Manhunt or scarface or something. Attempted Humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zechs Merquise Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Well this really all started with the snes.No blood in mortal kombat!?? WTF! That says a lot, I remember it well. It made the SNES version look silly. And if anyone remembers, by MK2 Nintendo had reversed their decision due to the massive negative feedback. But it hurt Nintendo's reputation. I agree here, Nintendo sets the stage for the type of software that is found on its consoles. 3rd parties are simply following suit here. Wii Sports , Wii Play, Wario Ware....what do these games have in common? short length simple graphics family oriented themes cheap, quick development cycles blockbuster sales 3rd parties would be crazy to put forth anymore effort or cost in their games than Nintendo itself does. I agree too. Come on, look at the games we are getting: Eledees, Dewey's Adventure from Konami. What are other studios going to think. Look at the lineup on the Wii, it's nowhere near as adult as the 360 lineup. Capcom are just saying what a lot of studios think. Don;t go mad at them for having the guts to come out and say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeldaFreak Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Well thats it most people know that playstation and xbox brands mostly cater for the 18-30 male gamer. Capcom are one of the best developers/publishers around. And what adult games are nintendo bringing out after zelda, just metroid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 And what adult games are nintendo bringing out after zelda, just metroid.Excitetruck, Disaster and Project Hammer also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I agree too. Come on, look at the games we are getting: Eledees, Dewey's Adventure from Konami. What are other studios going to think. Look at the lineup on the Wii, it's nowhere near as adult as the 360 lineup. Capcom are just saying what a lot of studios think. Don;t go mad at them for having the guts to come out and say it. The only reason why we 'go mad' (that is, we try to bring in counter arguments) is that you make it seem as though these adult games make the console sell. Truth is they don't, as proven by DS and the PS2's success far in its lifetime. Also, it's quite easy to pick on the Wii's lineup by now as the best games are yet to come. Surely most games are minigames, but the DS had that too in launch time. Now, the DS has loads and loads of good games coming its way. We are also getting Resident Evil and Brothers in Arms, for example, what are developers going to think then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zechs Merquise Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 The only reason why we 'go mad' (that is, we try to bring in counter arguments) is that you make it seem as though these adult games make the console sell. Truth is they don't, as proven by DS and the PS2's success far in its lifetime. Also, it's quite easy to pick on the Wii's lineup by now as the best games are yet to come. Surely most games are minigames, but the DS had that too in launch time. Now, the DS has loads and loads of good games coming its way. We are also getting Resident Evil and Brothers in Arms, for example, what are developers going to think then? Well, it's one of those things. I saw this before with the 'Cube, people said well it isn't a kiddy console, it's got Resident Evil, Hitman, Eternal Darkness... but it doesn't matter. You can list a load of stuff like that but it makes no difference. 360 gets a game like Lost Planet, and the Wii gets a game like Eledees. That's how many people see it unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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