Posted December 21, 2006 So, now you've all (well, most) now used the Wii Remote with new games, plus "traditional" ones like Zelda, how do you think the controls will work for Smash Bros Brawl, or do you think they should just use the Classic/GameCube controller? I think they should do something similar to Zelda, and simply find a way to "map" the GC controls onto the Wii Remote, but add simple motion controls too (but entirely optional in this case). My control idea: Nunchuck: C - Block/Dodge Z - Grab Up (Stuck) - Jump Flick Up (Nunchuck) - Jump Left/Right (Stick) - move Down (Stick) - Duck Remote: A - Attack/Item B - Special Attack + - Pause (into the camera mode thing) - - Pause Menu D-pad - Taunt Waggle - Attack/Item (like how Link's sword in TP works) (p.s. I've made this separate to the "official" one so there isn't much "speculation spam" or whatever you want to call it in that thread) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2006 No ideas needed it uses the classic controller. This has already been confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2006 AND the Gamecube controller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2006 It ain't broken, don't even try to fix it. Gamecube pad all the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2006 This game doesnt need Gimmicks Innovation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2006 Here's hoping Nintendo release a Wii-branded Wavebird/wireless Cube pad for us to use. My current grey Wavebird is filthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 21, 2006 A bluetooth wavebird. I want them to put some Wiimote/nunchuk controls in this.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 Is the Gamecube-Pad an alternate method or is it required? I have them but still I would like to be able to use the Wii-Controller and to use it the way you always use it... But OK... It will be fun this way too and there are other fighting games coming that are probably using the Wii controlling scheme... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 no gamecube pad isn't alternative it is the only choice or you can use the classic controller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 A 2D game like this doesn't need a 3D controller. I guess it wouldn't work too well with the Wiimote, but I think it's not really suited for fighting games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 no gamecube pad isn't alternative it is the only choice or you can use the classic controller *Sigh* Once again one urban rumour that has nothing to do with reality... Here is what happened... During this years E3 Sakurai, main developer of Smash Bros, said during developer interview that "players shouldn't throw their cube controllers away", hinting at the possibility of Cube controller support. Of course, Nintendards started to draw hasty conclusions and soon net was full of reports "Smash Bros will use only Cube controller!1!! Zomg! olololo!!1!". Because no one decided to think for more than second, it was soon standard belief Smash would support only Cube controllers. Let's fast forward two months. Sakurai was interviewed by Famitsu. During the interview Sakurai said that game wouldn't use wiimote's special functions at all. Unfortunately, due poor translations, many gaming sites reported that Sakurai said "No support for wiimote at all". Few major gaming sites which actually have jap rep (suc as IGN*) translated article correctly. Unfortunately, shitty translations just cemented Nintendards belief that game wouldn't suppor other control methods than Cube controller. In general, whole situation is pretty much testament for Internet stupidity, and how easy it is to stir shit. Honestly, does someone really believe that Nintendo would require you to use additional controller device** for their top-selling flagship title? Little common sense goes long way. * Here is IGN's version: http://wii.ign.com/articles/737/737632p1.html ** that isn't even manufactured anymore.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 This game doesnt need Gimmicks Innovation haha, why can't people see that whilst the Wiimote will no doubt suit certain games, it won't suit others. Someone was asking how it would work with a traditional starfox game, I think that would be another example of a game which worked best with normal controls. But back to topic, Smash Bros will use the classic controller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 haha, why can't people see that whilst the Wiimote will no doubt suit certain games, it won't suit others. Someone was asking how it would work with a traditional starfox game, I think that would be another example of a game which worked best with normal controls. But back to topic, Smash Bros will use the classic controller. and your proof is where? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 Nah, I think starfox would work tons better with pointer/ motion controls... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 the one problem with this for me is by using the gamecube controller isn't it an admission of failure that the wii controller simply cannot handle certain types of games?! I think they should try and implement it even if it's only slight, look at mario strikers that's only very simple implementation. wots wrong with holding it in nes controller position and having motion controllers to implement some moves etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 no gamecube pad isn't alternative it is the only choice or you can use the classic controller Doesn't that mean it isn't the only choice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 the one problem with this for me is by using the gamecube controller isn't it an admission of failure that the wii controller simply cannot handle certain types of games?! I think they should try and implement it even if it's only slight, look at mario strikers that's only very simple implementation. That's why I thing a Zelda: TP-style transition will really suit Smash Bros. And it's around 0% confirmed that it will use the GameCube/Classic controller. (basically, at the time they didn't know how they would use the Wii Remote for it) And TBH, I think Nintendo what a stupid idea it is (as an extra control option, it's fine). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 pretty pointless releasing this on wii if it just uses GC controllers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 pretty pointless releasing this on wii if it just uses GC controllers. Not really, as it'll use other features that the console itself has to offer. Main example being online play. I'm betting there will be other features too, as not much is known about this title right now anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 duh. i never thought of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 as long as it doesnt only use the wii classic controler as i do not have it. i have two gc pads and i am definitely picking this game up when it comes out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 Smash Bros on Gamecube used the following to my memory... Up on the Stick/X/Y to jump The other directions on the stick for movement A for melee attacks B for special attacks Z for Grab R/L for Shield D-Pad for Taunts C-Stick for easy Smash Moves Wii can easily replicate that... Up on the Stick to Jump Other Directions for Movement A for Melee B for Special Z for Grab C for Shield D-Pad for Taunts All it loses are the easy Smash Moves which frankly are cheap anyway but could be replicated with a waggle of the Wii Remote if felt necessary. It means that you don't need to splash out on Gamecube controllers/Classic controllers if you don't have them and frankly it'd work just as well. Just because the Wii remote has all these fancy abilities doesn't mean it needs to be used for that. It has all the same buttons and functions of a regular controller too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 using the stick to jump was HORRIBLE imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 22, 2006 GC/ classic controller all the way baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 23, 2006 i'd like to see some wiimote controlls. after all, that is the reason i bought the bastard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
