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Ah I knew I forgot something - He was Neutral, and would've won when the mafia were all dead, just like the townies.

It did. What you say about them 'wanting to hear something but being unable to respond' is precisely what I was thinking when making the post. Recently I met this girl, who I'll never meet again, who acted like a complete slut; she had big boobs and was pretty, and she knew how to get her way with guys. Well, we were at a party and I basically ignored her for the entire night because I didn't want her to think that her sexual wiles were working on me! Eventually she literally trapped me in the kitchen, and tried to make me swoon -- and I admit, I found her exceedingly attractive - but instead of letting her play with me, I said to her "I know what you do, I know how you do it, and it won't fool me." She was taken aback; shocked that a red-blooded male wasn't just staring at her boob canyon. To sum it up; we ended up talking for over an hour. People kept appearing behind her (she still had her hand on counters either side of me so I couldn't escape) feigning sexual whatevers... But I got to know this complete stranger more than her own best friends. I found out she was sexually assaulted as a child, she was clinically mental, she had attempted suicide a couple of times... All sorts of crazy shit that you don't expect to hear at a random party with friends... And I unleashed unto her a bunch of my own problems and we really connected and understood one another. We both knew we couldn't help each other, but it was one of those moments where you know you're truly communicating on such a truthful level. While she flirted with the other guys, and got pretty much all of their numbers, I felt (somewhat egotistically) that I was the only one that really connected with her. Yes, it made me feel a better person for not just seeing her as eye-candy, not jumping her like all the other dudes were, but besides this was the fact that we properly communicated on a personal level about deep, intense issues in a way that, I hope, made a difference to both of us. These instances are so damn rare, and so damn weird. Suddenly you realise "oh shit, this is one of those talks" and you just know that the moment will be carved into your mind, forever. Moments of connection like these are moments I will forever remember. They are what make me feel human, they make me feel brittle, like the skin and bone that I am. A mortal shape that is no different to a pig -- except for the mind that shares in communion its painful scores, with the odd strangers and passing bleats of beings that other people just really are. Again - I don't think this post adds anything to yours, dyson, but this thread is more about just adding a spore to the hive of feelings that most of us have waltzed through in our lives. And yes, I am drunk, but I don't care. I think, really, I just wish that RIGHT NOW I had such an odd stranger walk into my life so we could exchange weaknesses and find strength in our own advice.

it is rejecting sleep because you didn't go to bed until, what, 5am this morning? I woke up at 5pm thursday and haven't slept since, just because I'm trying to reset and get to grips with normal Time -- only now I think I'm going to overrun and sleep 'til 3pm or something, and ruin the whole thing. Today! I've been drinking lots, as expected. I wrote some ignoramous poetry about mice and smoke, I made some excellent pasta, watched a lot of Bones, convinced myself of marriage and tried to see a doc about my BRAIN but they were closed, so I felt silly, talked to myself a lot in the mirror, got slightly sunburned for lying naked by my window for hours on the phone, gave up on life then suddenly gave down on it again, missed a chance to hang with Dan Dare, smoked a lot and generally lived a depressing, but somehow self-gratifying day. I love/hate my life.

But that's the thing! Watching the movie with those 8 (blimey, that many?!) oscars in the back of your mind is going to distort your viewing, no doubt. Shorty and nami, my flatmates, have tried to watch The Wire and Battlestar Galactica but neither show (especially initially) can live up to the hype that everyone gives it. What an 'artist' intends to make is, admittedly, something I nearly always carry with me when I first observe entertainment/art. I most definitely sit there and try and find that precise intention; that initial reason for this thing's existence... Again, with b-movies I get to suspend that critical eye and just... experience. I'm not sure I follow you completely - are you saying that a burden shared is a weight halved, but applying this to a positive emotion or feeling engorges it? To some extent, I definitely agree. I find joy in being able to say "oh yeah! I introduced this to that motherfucker, and they love it! Yeah!" But then your bagged-quote suggests that we should hold dear to what we find most appealing, lest others somehow steal from our appreciation, or dilute it? haha - I don't care if it makes no sense, it is far more interesting to think about than just reading a movie review. While I don't know which way you specifically lean (though I tend to think you like to keep your favourite things private?), I will say that I like to try and spread what I deeply enjoy - that's why I always harp on about Waking life in this thread and mewithoutYou in the music thread -- both were seminal elements in the construction of who I am, and I still have the belief that even if 100 people hate it, at least 1 person will get teh same reaction to me. mmmm... off-topic conversation goodness!

I don't really know what I'm trying to say. Most of the time, anyway. When someone interrogates me with their personal issues, I try to believe that I know the right answers, that they'll be summoned in time, even though I tend to just sit there and wait for my mind to catch up with the processes and tell me what it finds once it's thought through the reasoning and is done with its recesses, ready to unwind the truth, the logic, the words that I need to use to convince my friend that everything is ok, that everything is alright. On TV you see the quick dialogue; someone says "my husband died because of me" and the other person goes "he didn't die because of you, he died for you," and the first person is all smiles and thankful of the right words at the right time. It is such a rarity to ever really connect with another person. I'm not trying to big myself up when I say I've met a lot of people, but I would say that I have only ever truly connected with maybe ten people. Those moments when you feel as if you're practically inside their head - when you know you're saying not only the truth but what they want to hear. When you encounter someone on the verge of a breakdown, or in dire need of help... The few select lines that you utter can change their lives, and you both hope it will be for the better. The first time that i can remember was... well it was probably a long-ish story. My best friend who we'll call Guy was, at the time, going out with the girl we'll call Charlotte. Now, her best friend, we'll call Stephanie, was having a house party. We must've been about 16, if even that. Alcohol and music somehow led to the fact that Guy was going to sleep in Stephanie's bed, and Charlotte was clearly upset, but everyone let it happen. The next day I go downstairs to find Charlotte playing blink 182 on a stereo, all by herself, crying. Eventually Stephanie called me into her room (where I slept, while she slept in the attic with Guy) and she told me that the Guy had basically raped her, and that, of course, she was scared not only that she'd lose her best friend but also that she'd break up her relationship with Guy. To cut a long thread short... How do you deal with other people's problems? Do you give them quick, socially acceptable advice? Do you sacrifice your own life, in any way, in order to ease theirs? Can you really ever know if you're doing the right thing? I mean, it is a rarity to see your friends truly crying. Just you and them. You've somehow stumbled into a private moment, so how do you deal with it? In reflection, several of the other moments in my life where a similar thing happened have been almost haunting to me; the memories almost scar me. Some of them have left me in shock. One time a friend told me that her mother wasn't just dead, but was murdered. How do you deal with that sort of information? How can you really be in any sort of position to give any sort of advice? ... I don't really know where this thread is going, even if it is going anywhere, but there are just ghouls in my vision that are distracting me from my own life sometimes, and one of them is precisely this matter; my own life distorted in the aid of another's healing. If you have any... any connatative thoughts, please share them. It'll help, me at least!

I don't disagree! With SM you mentioned passingly City of God, and I think that was clearly an influence on Boyle. He struggled to balance the devestating truths that he was trying to portray with some sort of rom-com element that, shamefully, british movies are so well known for in Hollywood. I think, with slumdog, Boyle was scared of really making any sort of message at all. In the future the movie will just be remembered for being the only completely non-white movie to win an award, and that's it. There's no real social commentary. There's nothing about the movie that makes it a classic... but the movie moves people. The movie connects on a human level in a way that it won't connect with people forever. The movie is not a snapshot of our contemporary world at all, and in my experience (in my degree... sigh), clasically great pieces of art/entertainment are widely not accepted in their day. But all that tells us is that in their day the audiences loved a play, or a film, in a way that we never will be able to. I don't really know what I'm getting at. This is the sort of discussion that I'd love to have over a spliff or a fire or something. There is an odd thing about 'enjoying' something. The reason I love b-movies (the few dozen I've seen) is that nobody else has seen them, so I can watch them and enjoy them for whatever brief reason and not have to worry about what anyone else things. Whenever I watch a film or listen to an album I am so damn aware of the influences that my yet-to-be-decided opinion of it has had, that it really does detract from the enjoyment factor. I'm just etching tangent after tangent for no reason. I am exceedingly drunk right now, in danger of invading the forums with penguins and their secret brothers the armadillos... I enjoy your rants, and genuinely I hope you're not offended if I ramble with them

Banksy's gallery stuff is nowhere near as provocative as his street art, in my opinion. From the pictures on the bbc site his wit still shines through, but really he's not doing anything that we've not seen before. I mean, the MPs as monkeys? people have compared Bush to a chimp for years, it just isn't striking or original, trend-setting nor revolutionary. But as something to look at, it's fine. As something that evokes a specific thought or emotion, it works. It just doesn't challenge.

Yes, flink; if you don't turn up then we're going to make a maquette of you and burn it ceremoneously, to show our rage and despair at how so easily you discard us. etc. (but true)

Lol. Bollywood is utter shit anyway. Are you trying to suggest that bollywood has ever offered anything more oscar-worthy than what Danny Boyle offered? I agree, the feel-good, pat-yourself-on-the-back vibe that SM gives off is the only reason it got an oscar, and I agree with your unmentioned belief that it isn't, at its core, a good movie in the Oxygen_waste sense, but! People who find SM, Lost in Translation and crash to be 'utter drivel', or whatever, are people who are unable to switch off their criticising brains and realise that movies are made to watch and enjoy, not to be picked apart by psuedo-intellectual young people, who will no doubt gather their entire family around the TV when they're old when said movie is being shown, with cries of "ooh, this movie came out when I was your age - you haven't seen it?! You have to see it!" -- I mean, maybe I've not got a fault with what you say. Maybe I'm sad that you are so quick to dismiss something as if your view of it is so wholesome and absolute, as if you're not in yourself changing. Maybe I don't give a shit about the movie at all. Maybe I keep getting this nagging feeling whenever I read a post by you or Paj; clearly clever people selling their own opinions of a piece of entertainment to the snappiest quote by some 'cool' critic that they happen to find agreeable at the time. If you're rating it because it's art then do so based on your own reaction to the movie, not on anyone elses. If you have nothing to add to someone elses statement then who cares what you think anyway? Maybe I do care what you think. Maybe I'd listen to your opinions more if your opinions ever expressed more middle ground. The ability to say something is "not too bad" is, to me, worth more than everything falling into one of three categories that do not apply, that do not transcend from your own opinion or view into anyone else's minds. I know my tone can't translate through this. I'm not bitching, I don't dislike you (or paj, as I mentioned you too), and I know I've wasted a massive effing post on bollocks, that I'll no doubt be mocked for, but if you can get a sense of what I'm saying then it is all worth it. Why do people feel so vulnerable about their opinions? Who are you trying to impress when you post in this thread, in this forum? Whose response are you afraid of? I just want some fucking humanity to relate to on here. BLEH. I think I need to stfu and go back to being my own stereotype. P.S. I know, I'm a fool. Loltastic. I'm seeking help. ta.

... yes, you're right he clearly isn't silenced! ... but he hasn't posted since the votes started piling in, and I still think bowser is more of a suspect then a silencer. Can anyone extrapolate from the write-up what sort of character a 'furry guy' can be? I can't seem to think of anyone, besides maybe DK? Cube and chairdriver are basically admitting that they both targetted Tellyn last night. If tellyn goes, then we'll know two more roles (perhaps)? Jonnas; I don't think the link-esque character is actually working with the tall character. Perhaps I just refuse to believe that Dannyboy is messing about with good/evil just yet :P

Well, after watching the Pilot episode a few months ago, I've been speeding through Bones, or at least the first season, fairly quickly. Started it at about 1am, currently on disc... 5! Go me. The show definitely improves after the pilot. Everyone embraces their stereotyped characters, and thus we can sit back and watch teh dead-body-of-the-week mystery without having to think too hard. Lots of fake and far-fetched science, but frankly this is very adequate TV that you can just sit and watch without thinking too much; along the likes of House, Life and so on. Of course, the script strains to emulate Whedonese, but I'm happy with it. Mostly because Bones herself is strangely alluring to watch. Might just be that her eyes are slightly too close... *should start actually rating things because nobody actually reads reviews these days* *is going to use his own rating system* 14/20. First /10 is my personal scoring, the second /10 is what I think the 'cool critic dudes' would score. Added together you get this bundled number, so you'll never really know what my own opinion is, and thus cannot insult me. Nyer.

I did a care and teh rest did a blah. H8u.

Totally right! I can't believe I missed that. Vote: Vicar. At this stage, I'd like to think that bowser is generically an evil character, and I'd rather base my vote on that than adding to the pile of votes of Tellyn who hasn't defended himself yet (and for all we know, he's actually the silenced one so he won't) for a role that could be good or bad.

Shorty; you were playing Oddy. You're not expected to be cheerful about the result! Don't stop playing just because you aren't white-washing most of the other teams. There's fun to be found in playing equals, and even in playing stronger teams. 2-0 loss is basically exactly what i predicted. I think I got my tactics nearly spot-on, and possession and chances-wise I had a great game... But I hate it when the only things in the match report are the goals. Well My 'star' midfielder has been nothing but shite ever since he started playing for me, so I may well just sell him on and work at other aspects of the team... Congrats to ReZ! A brilliant opening two games; points that must surely already give him some waterwings for the rest of the season. my next game's against oddy; I predict a loss of 4-0.

Day 4 is over Y'all went and lynched Lillster. He was Luke the Hustler. Once his buddy Pete was killed, he went from a role-switcher to a killer, thirsty for revenge. The 4th Night begins now. Please send in your PMs with your targets. Players remaining: (15) Coolness Bears Cube Dyson Eenuh Ellmeister Gizmo Jonnas Jimbob maddog Moogle Mr-paul Mundi nintendohnut Not-So-Tiny Zell

Sorry. I edited it as i went DRUG DEALERS FTW Yeah I wrote it!

The spine snapped! T'was the mouse that lapsed within the kitchen this morning. A spike alighted with a sound afrighted Its speed unseen so soon. His back did crack! A marvel lacked in the view of his parting glance. He saw, his paw did close to the maw, a cheese of bounteous awe. He confounded at once that he wished he had pounced much quicker, in shining glory. Instead he must fade and age away in this the trap, so begun his story. My fingers chew on teh words they choose, each tapped scrawling I etch is an attempt to correct the visions I see, the thoughts I believe, but instead I find that there's no way that my mind can completely agree with the things my eyes beam, with the wings of a bee I stretch to climb, to allow inside my beliefs of mine to correct the sublime, with the truths absolute in combat with the brutes that encumbre with delay the pains of today that write all away as if it were merely disdain when in truth, I say, there's more to be said, a lot more oomph in my head, that wants to break free, that glances from me, that sees what I see, that breathes what I believe! But with youth I run free, with strength I plea; continue, these feelings within you; with curse I abhor you but with hope I implore you; in days to come there will always be one or many or few, or memories hued, that will burn and encumbre, to learn and discover, to sing or to hum; that there can be happiness begun if only we decree our love supreme. Why not sacrifice more if love breeds flaw? Can we not seep our blood lust so deep into rivers we keep entwined with each beat -- a promise that delivers a feeling, be it his/hers, that won't miss the divine that reaches behind back when this all started?

Hurrah! It's ten to 4 and it's getting LIGHT!

I agree! My n-e team is one that, I think, will be much stronger in two seasons time. Even over the last two seasons the average strength has vastly improved. Last season I think I was severely wrong with my tactics far too often, but this season I think there's been a massive change - I think the weaker teams have improved more than the stronger teams, so the gap between dyson, you, happenstance, haden and teams like me, gaggle, ReZ and even shorty has dwindled. Oddy is still the 90's Man U; the big scalp, that we all want to beat. Having three leagues this season - with two of the leagues full of competant and attentitative managers means we'll have more good teams and a lot less easy games. I'm keen to see how the lowest league fares. I think next season, once we've had some bigger names relegated, will get that league going. At the moment we have noodle and Mcoy as the big names wanting to stake a claim down there, and we always have that guarentee that certain managers will just forget to play and let their teams dwindle. Plus, we'll have moogle returning, no doubt eager to make his impression too. Haden was saying to me earlier that x11 is getting stressful, but I think it's just getting better and better! I love the thing. I'm planning to stay up late tonight, and if it hits 6am then I'll no doubt have to stay up 'til 12:30pm to catch the results (me losing to you, no doubt :P) before I hit the hay. Managing two teams eases the stress of the n-e league a little, by promising a bit more reward. I love x11, and I'll probably get a VIP account once I know I can afford it!

That's fair enough. Earlier on I saw a 26 year old midfielder with 14 skill going for 52m! That sort of money is bonkers. I imagine working the youth and transfer market is a lot more essential in the sorts of leagues that you're in.

Iota 1: The BNP are, as Dan Dare said, sly bastards who use rhetoric and national emotions to overshadow their intentions. I listened to a speech that was made by the dude elected for a EU seat, and he made some interesting claims -- I mean, someone like me who pseudo-believes in conspiracies, he said that he wants to get a team in to investigate the actual actions of the EU and its confederation of governments. In respect to the recent scandal with our own national MPs, I think this is a valid concern to many individuals - that our governing bodies are honest. (which is why I like teh Lib-Dems, for they do honesty the proper way, unlike Cameron and his conservative bullshit) I don't think that people should be out on the streets booing or mugging BNP MPs or anything. They can just use their oppression as some sort of parallel to other oppressed minorities over the decades, and I also think that it would be akin to lowering ourselves to 'their (perceived) level if we allow for any such anger to be released. In one sense, it is good for the EU to have right-wing parties in the parliament. It means that all issues will be contended and debated thoroughly. If the EU was 100% comprised of the same party system then I would be far more worried than I am about one back-bencher getting in. The BNP dude will cause a ruckus when and where he can - and I do believe that he will pick his moments as such to increase domestic party support - but ultimately the new support he seeks is found through highlighting the beurocratic system's faults. people who encourage violence or censorship of the BNP are scared that the BNP will eventually gain some sort of real power. They need to just learn to sit back and laugh at the BNP, and instead address the reasons behind why voters elected 'facist' MEPs rather than more conservative, or liberal, individuals. My earlier question was not answered; how many people here complaining about the results actually voted? (p.s. I mentioned the whole zanu labour thing before, too. I think it's like saying "gaystation poo.")

Sorry bud, I don't know what you're asking, exactly?

very impressive! I'm in the 8th division of the Final League. I'm fairly confident that despite there being 2 matches played already, I can get my team promoted. There seems to be maybe one or two other teams who seem to know what they're doing. I imagine the difficulty racks up quickly as you get promoted, facing other teams who have been promoted and so on. My next game is against the team currently in 2nd in my league, and I'm confident I'll thrash them! Will find out at about 8pm tomorrow! I see you're supporting me now! Nice, I'll return the favour and keep an eye on your team too your walmsley squad is utterly inspiring - though I think your defense and midfield are fragile if too many people leave in teh same season. It's sickening to see people with 13+ skilled 26 year olds. I imagine that as your team gets better, so do your youth... I think Haden's applied to get an x11-league team, too. Well worth it. Now I only wish I had some group of friends to develop my own league with! That way I'd definitely buy VIP.

Votes n' shit. (majority is 9) Lillster (6): Jonnas, eenuh, moogle, cube, Dyson Dyson (1): MadDog

Well from what I can tell, we have; A white-haired woman (followed guy with a cape) A blue individual (targetted the group of turtles) a bunch of turtles (koopas?) (followed nose-thing) Someone with a strong nose (who left an egg? a yoshi?) (targetted white-haired woman) A guy with a bright cape (roy? Marth? I can't think of a nintendo character with a cape) A "that's a she?" character, maybe samus (targetted by annoying creature and kiss-girl) (itself targetted guy with pointy shoes) a small, mysterious, annoying/persuasive character (changes targets) (targeted blaster guy) (wanted blaster guy to target girl-who-looks-like-girl,-possibly-sheikah) a guy with a blaster (who was controlled) (didn't have a target) A person with yellow cloth (targetted guy with blaster and girl who wanted to kiss the girl-boy[samus?]) (potentially role-blocking both?) (targetted by tech-guy) A furry person (who is being kept quiet today) (targetted small annoying thing) another, similar looking, furry person (targetted furry person, keeps them quiet the next day) someone who protects with a magical barrier A girl trying to kiss boy-girl [samus?] (targetted by yellow-cloth) Guy with pointy shoes (stunned by girl/guy samus?) (investigated by pointy-eared huffer) Tech-guy, cloth-weilder Tall Man (targetted boy-with-shield [link?] Boy with shield[evil] targetted large egg [impa], potentially something to do with the good-nosed thing earlier. Now, maybe the evil-shield-boy targetted impa, after impa was targetted by good-nose (yoshi)? I presume that yoshi targetted nintendohut, turned him into an egg to stop him from doing anything, then this perhaps-dark-link killed impa (nintendohnut) while impa was in an egg. The tall man (maybe waluigi? Doshin?) will know who the killer is. I hope this was of some help to people in trying to find themselves in the write-up. I think it helped me.