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Maybe if #Fridgeselfie's were you inside of a fridge...

I don't really get it? What's it supposed to symbolise/reflect on? That Nintendo fans get their defensive pitchforks out?

What have you shown that demonstrates that? other than saying Nintendo know how to get the most from hardware... which they could soon learn to do on other consoles.

I don't get your point, no one said contrary... it's just an interesting insight.

No the point is they now realise they have to embrace such communities.

Ok cool! Didn't know about the trademarks!

What's making more and more people think that Advance Wars 3DS might happen? To me it just seems like another abandoned franchise like F-Zero and Wave Race etc... Although yeah, fingers crossed this is the year they all come back :p

Ahhh no, not since hearing the IGN staff 'joking' about Samus rolling across destroying the screen in a Giant Morph Ball (like the Giant Mushroom in NSMB and the Giant Egg in New Yoshi's Island) have I feared such a game :p You know it would happen.

Oh yep I'm majorly excited! The fact that sites like Gametrailers are doing various countdowns and things to it too, just makes the build up all the better! HYPE!!!! I could actually do without a main console Zelda for a couple of years (in favor of other classic/new franchises), but I like the idea of this! Would it be online though? probably not I guess, in which case I'd probably not play it as intended :/ But it wuld be a great eShop game!

Yeah I'm really not interested in Hyrule Warriors. Complete filler.

Honestly a Disney Infinity style Nintendo game would be the next Pokemon... Has to happen. Gametrailers talk at length about Nintendo's NFC announcement in their latest video/podcast... http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/1f6cax/gt-time-giving-ea-one-more-chance They make the very good point that Nintendo need the right game behind this. The reason Disney Infinity works so well is because it bridges the gap between Disney Movies and games... where as with Nintendo it's what? Nintendo games... and games? Nintendo can't just sell you figures where you are putting Mario into the game and then start platforming as Mario for example, because you can already get that experience, and if anything asking you to buy a figure to now do so is taking something away from you that was previous free. A £40 game based around Monsters Inc would arguably be a terrible cash in, like wise with a lot of Disney movie type games, so this is why Disney Infinty, along with the ToyBox concept works so well, because it gives you these more bitesize 10hr gaming experiences of the Disney movie worlds and they're also interconnected. Nintendo can do a great job with this, but it needs to be supported in the right way,

Same, I'm holding off playing The Last of Us and Tomb Raider on PS3 to play the PS4 versions later on in the year, can't wait! (rumours the Mass Efect Trilogy might also get next-gen release too, which will be cool having not played them). Yep Flow and Flower are on PS4. Personally I wouldn't buy a second hand console, but there's not necessarily likely to be anything wrong with it of course. Although I think there's been a bad case or two of buying a second hand console on here recently. Oh god FLink, I can't wait for you to play Journey whenever you get yourself a PS3

Personally I think it would stand them in a better position than they currently find themselves in. The fact that Nintendo has the talent to make Wii games look like PS3//360 beaters, and Wii U games [based on a couple of years experience only] rival those of the PS4/Xbone... if they had such consoles tools at their disposal they could be turning everyone's heads right now and setting the industry standard (something they always used to do in gaming). People would be taking notice, how could they not?... Price the console at the level of the PS4 (which the Wii U wasn't far off anyway), without this Gamepad no one's using, and they could have sold a lot more units? Ok so the online infrastructure might still be a defining factor for some, but well that's just something else they've taken to long to get sorted out.

We're not in the Gamecube era anymore, Nintendo completely neglected third party relationships back then, their relationship with third parties has been steadily on the decline since that console launched. They should be trying to win that back and learn from their mistakes, not just say 'well they abandoned us on the Gamecube, oh well that's it then'... They need to understand what happened. What effort are they making to get third parties back?... releasing an underpowered console that doesn't share third parties vision?... To get the third parties audience back?... releasing a completely undiverse games library of First party games?... To show both of these that the Wii U is the console to support... releasing next to no games that support their philosophy for the Gamepad? Yeah good job.

Fair enough, except well there's zero chance if it's not even technically possible. It's then up to Nintendo to do the rest. Maybe intead of loosing all the money they have on the Wii U they could have put that money into third party projects. Heck even pay for GTAV on your console if it'll sell them. You didn't even begin to acknowledge that it's not only Nintendo that take risks. Seemed like ignoring the point to me, but hey.

What a great attitude.

Consumers being able to put their faith in a long-term/futureproof console that would at least be capable of receiving ports of third party games at the very least.

So you're just going to ignore my reply then and maintain Nintendo are the only risk takers. And looking at it that way, without all the other tablets that preceded Nintendo's I doubt the Gamepad would even exist.

What about Sony pursuing a VR headset? that's a huge risk! (arguably the biggest of any) The Wonderbook games. Microsoft significantly upgrading and sticking with the Kinect when it was a bit of a joke on the 360.

Yeah have to agree. I don't mind his attitude at all, it's still one that wants to see Nintendo succeed, I think IGN have a good group atm and I've been enjoying their videos more and more. Also I thought that discussion group was quite representative of this forum and the differing views/stances we have, perhaps partly why I enjoyed it all the more. We may argue on here at times, but maybe all it would take is a few comfy sofa's and it'd be a healthy debate

Yep, like IGN say, the Wii U literally does it's best to push everyone away that the Wii U attracted/converted. Very strange. Also whilst Nintendo saw (as everyone else did it has to be said, it's not as though they spotted this trend) that handheld devices such as phones and tablets were taking off, the Gamepad itself never really targeted that market due to such a lack of other functionality. It confuses the message even more.

@Cube, I haven't really been following any news about this game... so it's a digital game only? That seems a strange choice for Insomniac's 'next big thing', the game they describe in that video has being what 'all previous games have been leading up to'. What's the reason behind that? Also being a download title shouldn't limit it in scope/stop it from being equivalent to a game you can buy physically!

Firstly don't get hung up on the episode title or anything, it's just one part of a really enjoyable, well rounded discussion on Nintendo's current situation, with plenty of topics, thoughts and ideas. Enjoy.