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Yeah I think it's hard to say whether newer games are shorter in that respect, we've gotten much more familiar with Mario and controlling him.

That image is brilliant Goafer. I've got no problems with blocking adverts to be honest. They're annoying.

I think 6.8 minutes per star isn't too unrealistic for an experienced gamer familiar with other 3D Mario games and therefore his moveset (but never played 64)...some of the early stars can be got in much less time so you can spend more time on the later ones, and there's also a few stars you just get given by toad. Then there's the 100 coin stars that when you earn you aren't ejected from the level. I think the 3D games generally are longer though and for the average gamer this will take much longer than 8 hours... just being able to move in 3D means there's more exploration, and the levels tend to feel bigger.

That sucks, I hate toothache. Not a fan of the dentists but I do like how it generally can always be sorted out.

Original Xbox had a better launch than Wii? What?

Sour grapes.

Oh come on. 'The argument ends when I say it has' - how old are we? Why drag up something when we've clearly moved onto talking about the game again. You're better than this. Day isn't over until EEVIL comes along....there are still theories to discuss (like why the time warp was used twice, Yvonne may know more) and who Rummy is/what he does. There are still people we haven't heard from yet as well like Dedede.

Can you please drop it now? It'd be nice if we could all stay focused on the game and for us all to stop squabbling over who hates who the most.

I don't doubt that you were meddled with Rummy. The writeup stipulates the clock went back twice that night. My guess is the Mafia have a power mimic that lets them copy an ability from another player - possibly the person crawling in shadows (mentioned in one of the writeups). Given it specifically stated that the clock went back twice, it suggests to me that my actual character's power (Groundhog Day reporter Phil Collins' time warp) was used twice that night, rather than a Mafioso with a different power but similar effect. Might be wrong on that, but that's my theory. Given that you did nothing every night it certainly adds to the chances that you could have been stopped from performing a kill. Are you the traveller from the N1 writeup (since I'm the reporter)? More info on your role or character would help allay suspicions. @Yvonne what exactly did you learn regarding the time warp being used on Rummy?

Yeah I remember thinking that - the 3D thing made me think at first it was going to be 3DS.

Because now a handful of people have reason to believe I'm town? Because you held out on voting DuD for a long time? Because if you are in fact Mafia, I'd be more than happy to see you removed from the game?

Anyone who places a vote should have conviction. Otherwise it's just a punt. Are we done now? Can we send people to check out Rummy tonight given this spat?

Weird, you forgot the points you brought up already? I'm getting fed up with arguing with you now Rummy. You're just being annoying and unhelpful with your comments and general behaviour. Use your vote to lynch Mafia throughout the game and not to express your childish opinions. I really don't need to hear what is wrong with me from the person who pretty much pissed Flink off to the extent he hasn't returned to play Mafia since.

You're effectively calling me a liar about not seeing your post. Weird? I wasn't 100% self sure. No one can be totally self sure in a game where you don't know everything. The point is that everyone on that lynch was confident enough to vote you (not just me, so it's not really fair to single me out). Whatever you offered to stop the lynch was clearly not good enough. Your unusual offer was effectively worthless, which I still think you don't see, and that's because you hadn't established a truth precedent by doing the same thing multiple times before to prove you it was a genuine move.

Aye but this time you got the goods (results). DEM GOODS!

Under...statement. :p

Your post wasn't there when I submitted mine, Rummy... and maybe we need to cool things a little, aye? Rather than getting angry, I think we can probably agree we are different people with different ways of looking at things. The way you see it, using hindsight you can blame other people for past wrong actions (e.g. a townie lynch), irrespective of what was known at the time. The way I see it, what was known at the time should be taken into account to judge whether a bad outcome was due to poor play or just bad luck. For instance, you say that the lynch of yourself in that Mafia was poor play as you were in fact town - something we knew for sure when you were lynched. In my view, based on all we knew at the time, it was a credible lynch. It wasn't a lynch train that one or two townies that weren't paying attention had hopped on, there were genuine reasons that mostly came about through the fact you got a shitty role that influenced you throughout the game. I'm not saying one view is right or wrong, rather that I accept you have your way of seeing blame/fault, and I have mine. One last thing: I do look back on past mistakes too, not just unlucky ones. I remember in the Lego Mafia City Mafia I totally gave away that I was Mafia and Dohnut saw it (I made a post trying to plant suspicion on a townie and he picked up on it). Needless to say I put it out there that I screwed up in the post game discussion. Still had fun though! :p

Second: well, good. Glad you came round. Just keep the personal jabs out of it, mmkay? I think EEVIL may have been able to prevent a lot of this actually if he told us before. :p

I find this very untruthful and I'm getting a rather nasty/personal vibe from you now (regarding 'outside of the topic' advice). I acknowledge that I have lynched the wrong people in the past (of course I have), but the particular example you brought in (your lynch in the keyboard mafia) was not a good one. In terms of the decision to lynch you at the time, it was worth doing based on what we knew then. I think given all the support for DuD's lynch now I ask you to please see that what you're saying could be seen as more than a little hypocritical. You are telling me that I never face the possibility that I am wrong...yet in this case you are yourself wrong about me and not modifying your vote accordingly.

He's back! Did you happen to find out about getting the results on me rather than Yvonne? EEVIL said I was close enough. It might help convince Rummy that your result on me was right.

True! But I knew nothing about your real alignment in that game yet lynched you based on other factors, ie. the factors that were available and visible to me. And to the others.

Yeah, I think generally speaking DS-PSP-PS3-360-Wii-PC are generally considered the same generation.

This is going somewhat off topic but...I wasn't the only person who lynched you in that case Rummy. Only in hindsight can you say that particular lynch was wrong. At the time I believe it was totally a worthwhile thing to do based on the situation as we knew it (your dumb cop role, the people you had put suspicion on throughout the game, that we were in a safe position to do it). The thing about lynches is that if you don't do them then you don't have a chance of winning. I don't think being assertive is a bad thing, even if your assertions turn out to be wrong. I think you've also got me wrong - I often question lynches and many times abstain from them or remove vote, or my opinion on someone can completely change based on someone else's results. The trouble is when I use words like 'confirm', people clearly don't like it. So what I'll say is that I'm not confirmed town. Magnus says he finds me to be town and EEVIL has suggested that something went wrong in relation to the Yvonne/me mixup. People can make of that what they will. In this one case I think I can be assertive about comments about foul play regarding the results on me. After all, whatever you think of me, you know that I know the truth, right?

The game where you were a dumb cop and I was a real cop? You'll notice I said I wasn't completely sure but the risk was low (you had a useless power and you had suspected a bunch of the wrong people). It's just shitty luck when you get that role. @ReZourceman can you explain the removed vote?

Well that's good. I think you might be Mafia and don't want to vote your teammate.