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Absolutely! I think even if there aren't any issues with production and stock, the PS5 is going to sell out, so from both a business and fan perspective I think it would be a weird decision to lock out 100+ million PS4 owners normally. Especially in the times of COVID, when loads of people who might have been able to be there for the PS5 can't due to issues with work. Fair play to PlayStation and Insomniac. I know it's just as much a business move as it is one for the fans, yet I'm glad. I have a friend who loves Miles but wouldn't have been able to get a PS5 for it, now he's got another way to play it, and so does my brother now when he gets my PS4! Options like these are always a good thing

Just seen this as well, that's nuts. Did I somehow completely miss that being mentioned in the stream or did they just tweet it out? Think they just don't want to leave money on the table. PS4 is winding down, sure, but there's over 100 million units out there. Still, weird that Ghost of Tsushima didn't end up being it's last first party title!

Gameplay from today's Showcase running on PS5: Now coming to both PS5 and PS4.

Gameplay trailer from today's Showcase, just some raw gameplay: Looks incredible. Great job by Bluepoint, this is what I wanted to see!

Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Horizon Forbidden West, and God of War: Ragnarok all currently slated to be released by the end of 2021 is crazy. Even if it doesn't play out that way because of COVID, that's still nuts.

I got called crazy for thinking we could see Spidey 2, Horizon 2, and God of War at least teased this year. Optimism wins out Not quite Spidey 2 with Miles Morales, but still! And yeah, I have doubts over it making 2021. I hope they can crack on - even Horizon didn't say 2021 back in June (they just slid it under the table in a developer video), so I think this is much further along than people think right now...even if it doesn't make 2021.

Yes!

YESSSSSSS GOD OF WAR LETS GOOOOOOO

£449/£359 is great! Was that 19th Nov for UK? One more thing!

Holy cow that's better than I expected! A small but great PS4 catalogue w/ PS+ from PS5 launch is great!

If PS+ Collection is what I think it is it's a great idea (I'm thinking a catalogue of PS Hits games or something like that with monthly rotations as we are)

Exactly what I wanted to see, just some gameplay. Bluepoint do some great work with these remakes

Demon's Soulssssss thank goodness, was nervous we hadn't seen it

Don't know how I feel about showing a Special Edition of DMC V here. Sure it'll be great, but...hard to sell as a next gen game for me. And Oddworld being here too. Took a bit of a dive here imo

"Hol 2020" on Spidey and CoD (even though we have a release date for that already) screams to me that they're both Day 1, but would prefer they just came out and said that if they are. Solid showing so far though!

Easily done I thought I'd misread it too, was not expecting that at all!

Will wait for further clarification, but...

True, missed that. But it's still a huge deal, let's not act like it isn't Think they said "PlayStation Console Exclusive" If I'm remembering that right, pretty sure that means not just exclusive content...unless you mean the whole game

EXCLUSIVE?! THEY MADE XVI PS EXCLUSIVE?!

YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS GIVE IT TO ME

Here we go! Announced at the PS5 September Showcase, being developed by Creative Business Unit III!

So much Star Wars in VR!

I'm stepping back and tempering my expectations. Mainly because I'll go dizzy with excitement otherwise I think most of my wider predictions would still be somewhat in line with what I said back in June (you know, minus the stuff that got announced then, and has been announced/showcased since!), but again, I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. Tonight I'm expecting to see: - price, launch, and pre-order dates. There's no way in my mind they let the Xbox Series S and X go up for pre-order without us at least knowing when the PS5 pre-orders drop. I would like if they were to announce these at the start like Nintendo did at the start of their Switch Presentation in January 2017, but I could see them just saying 'Available at Launch' throughout and then dropping this on us at the end. - Spider-Man: Miles Morales gameplay demo. The only AAA first party game from June they seemed confident in attaching a release window too. If it's coming at launch, now is the time to show us some gameplay. - Demon's Souls gameplay demo. I don't think it will be there at launch, but this game is going to be be one of their showpieces. It's Bluepoint. If not a demo then perhaps a trailer which includes more gameplay than we saw back in June. - let's see that UI. I'm just really curious to see what it could look like, hoping for something clean and a better trophy system (such as counters). I went back and watched one of the PS4 showcases from 2013 and we got Shuhei opening the show with a tour of the UI, so would love something like that again. Would love the first gameplay demo to start by showing the UI and then them selecting the game, and showing off how quickly it will load! - a first party multiplayer game. I don't know what - maybe TLOU2's Factions or something like Killzone - but I think this is the biggest gap in Sony's first party offering. This is about as out there as my expectations for the event are going. Then of course some looks at games we've already seen (not sure if they'd go with another Ratchet and Clank gameplay demo or trailer at this point) and hopefully a couple of surprises. Excited even with my tempered expectations, I just want my pre-order in at this point

Well that lowers my expectations for when I get around to XV I'd love turn-based combat, especially with VII Remake already dealing with action RPG mechanics, but I just don't see it happening. An evolution on what they've done with VII Remake which made the ATB side of things about 50/50 with the action would be pretty cool! Yeah, it's funny looking at XV and knowing I don't really want that in an FF, I kind of want medieval/steampunk like they did so well in VI and IX Strong characters and a storyline which isn't a mess would be nice, would be a dream if Uematsu returned as main composer, though from what I've heard of the other composers since he's stopped as the main series composer, it's still great stuff. But above all else: just focus on the game! From the outside looking in, having not played many of these games, Square Enix have got a very bad habit it seems of making the game last and making the brand around it first (which I'm grateful wasn't the case with Remake). What I mean by this is look at the VII Compilation: came out after the original game, ended up with a lot of side and supplementary content, but it doesn't really tarnish that original experience. And then I look at the dizzying mess that is XV. Off the top of my head: a film, short anime, the game, and then the plans for like 8 DLC packs (half of which ended up cancelled?). And even then, the game was Versus XIII just made into their next main project, I feel like the game was the last thing on their minds. Thinking about it now though, and putting aside XIV's A Realm Reborn, won't XVI be the first original Final Fantasy main series announcement/reveal in over a decade? That's pretty nuts if so!

Completely off topic, but I don't like making speculation threads, and finishing IX has really put it at the front of my mind (and we've derailed this thread anyway ): if XVI is announced tonight, what would you want to see? Or what do you want from XVI in general?