Domo Kun Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 One interesting thing I heard is that the nations that have the happiest population are the ones with the most equality, not with the biggest economies. Aparently the happiest countries in the world are the norsk (spelling?) countries of northern europe.
somme Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 Dont u live in australia tho :S If you must know I'm on a working-holiday in Australia. I'm a British Citizen.
dabookerman Posted June 13, 2006 Author Posted June 13, 2006 If you must know I'm on a working-holiday in Australia. I'm a British Citizen. I see. Well i aint lowering the cost of alcohol, so pay up
somme Posted June 13, 2006 Posted June 13, 2006 That god for Whetherspoons/Spirit Group. You must be one of those t-totaller sorts.
Platty Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 I work within a Government department, i like it, except the pay could be more. But i guess thats like any job really. Alcohol is already extortionate in places like London. You just havent been to the right bars/pubs. Come out with me ill show you some cheapy's
MoogleViper Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Right my policies that will make this shit-hole we call Britain into... SUPER BRITAIN!!! -Kill everyone with an IQ less than 100 -Replace the 95%population drop with Japanese people -Make it a law that any woman I want to sleep with has to let me
Blackfox Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Why is alchohol legal but marijuana not? Alcohol has been around for millennia as a way of making unsafe water drinkable. Marijuana is a leaf that is smoked and has been in the Uk for decades. Thus not having any positive effects.
Indigo Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 - Nationalisation of all key (power, water, trains) services. Lack of service for profit at the expense of the population? Fuck off. I detect a very rose-tinted view of nationalisation. Look at BT, for example. Before it was privatised, you'd wait months just for a telephone line. Competition is healthy, both for the consumer and for the economy. If it wasn't for all the privatisation during the 1980s, the UK would not have the stable and growing economy that you now see. The fact that there has been cross-party consensus on the subject since Labour abandoned Clause IV shows that nationalisation is an old and exhausted concept. Only the most hardened socialists and deluded Old Labour supporters stand by it.
Blackfox Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 I detect a very rose-tinted view of nationalisation. Look at BT, for example. Before it was privatised, you'd wait months just for a telephone line. Competition is healthy, both for the consumer and for the economy. If it wasn't for all the privatisation during the 1980s, the UK would not have the stable and growing economy that you now see. The fact that there has been cross-party consensus on the subject since Labour abandoned Clause IV shows that nationalisation is an old and exhausted concept. Only the most hardened socialists and deluded Old Labour supporters stand by it. I disagree. It can work if its regulated properly. and having the government as the regulators and providors means that consumers aren't ripped off by profit driven companies. Saves us all money.
Nintenchris Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Why the fcuk did they put the road tax up on 4x4's !?!?!?!? My mums Landrover can go just as far as any car on the same ammount of Diesel so that counts out the so called "gas guseling" and it also has to take the same emissions test any car has too so that counts out the so called "environment killing 4x4s" Now dont get me wrong when you look at what i have said ... why should we pay more road tax?
Bren Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Alcohol has been around for millennia as a way of making unsafe water drinkable. Marijuana is a leaf that is smoked and has been in the Uk for decades. Thus not having any positive effects. THC (stuff in pot that gets u high) destroys certain cancer cells (according to new research). Sure if you smoke it your making more, but eating it...
rokhed00 Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 -the police force will be doubled, and will reside in huge swarms in major crime areas. and they will be allowed to carry guns. Considering where you live do you really think that'd be a good idea? Wouldn't take long before places like North East London were turned into war zones with the police working under those kind of guidelines. Alcohol is already extortionate in places like London. Piss off, London is the cheapest place in the country for alcohol.
dabookerman Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 Considering where you live do you really think that'd be a good idea?Wouldn't take long before places like North East London were turned into war zones with the police working under those kind of guidelines. I dunno, infact, it would probably turn into compton. But the idea is to make the concequence of commiting a crime so horryifiying that people will just not want to ever do it.
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Haha, just double the police force. This isn't just like the film Judge Dredd where they can just clone the officers. We need to vote for Blackfox as our PM.
Jack Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 But the idea is to make the concequence of commiting a crime so horryifiying that people will just not want to ever do it. Do you believe that every crime should be punished with the death penalty then?
mariosmentor Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 nationalism in key services is perfection IF IT IS REGULATED PROPERLY if the service does not abuse its power by cutting costs and such by basically not giving a shit for example lately in my area they were giving out free services to install new windows and because the company supplied is not being paid by you they do not have to consider you the customer, the result being a bunch of shit windows that destroyed the structure of the walls and locks slanted and poorly installed that the windows either don't open or can't close and the destruction of my phone line 3 times due to accidents which afterwards bt tried to charge me a whopping 70 bucks after diverting all calls to the phone to my mobile, bastards. The fact is that proper regulation is in a "perfect world" for example the description of communism sounded promising is you consider a "perfect world" then in practice, a disaster. privatisation however I think can be effective if it is regulated more thourghly to prevent such rouge traders and con-men which there are far too much in any area of life. The regulators should also concern themselves which the method of sales which these companies conduct such as hidden charges and outright lies and false hope. My own grandmother had a salesman come to her door and ask her to fill out a questionaire then discovered she'd signed up for a kitchen. Afterwards the guy was subsequently charged but there are people who probably didn't speak up. In all, the country's going to the dogs, companies are jumping too fast towards shitty and cheap methods to keep up with competition at this rate America, oh no sorry Britian is going to be royally fcuked. Edit* Yay for death penalty
dabookerman Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 Do you believe that every crime should be punished with the death penalty then? I gave my sentences on the first page already. i think its just bullshit for getting 5 year sentences for murders and stuff, no wonder crime is increasing.
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 I think the country needs to approach the idea of reforming prisoners. With repeating offenders, the system needs to address why they keep repeating commiting crime. If they can address this, they'll be saving lives. As with Blackfox, the current government is doing really well with education at the moment. As a whole, education is fine. But, there are areas of the UK which need addressing.
mariosmentor Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 arn't pedophiles no.1 for comitting the same crime right after they're released? prison obviously doesn't work in some cases, it just pisses the prisoners off. How many criminals go to prison and come out criminals? I'm guess at least 85%
dabookerman Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 The whole point of a prison is to punish people, and to deter them from commiting crimes. obviously, due to leniency and watching tv in cells is perfect deterrence, people just take the piss. if you make people fear to do any wrong doing, then you are doing something right. Capital punishment. extreme prisons. fuck human rights for prisoners if they go around ruining other peoples lives.
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 arn't pedophiles no.1 for comitting the same crime right after they're released?prison obviously doesn't work in some cases, it just pisses the prisoners off. How many criminals go to prison and come out criminals? I'm guess at least 85% No idea what the actual figures are, but i'm sure google will helping finding out what they are if need be. fuck human rights for prisoners if they go around ruining other peoples lives.[/Quote] I'm guessing you're not for the idea of reformation, then?
dabookerman Posted June 14, 2006 Author Posted June 14, 2006 I'm guessing you're not for the idea of reformation, then? Who respects reformation, it works on a small minority of people. Frankly, If some dude murdered a mothers only 2 daughters, reformation would be the last thing on my mind.
mariosmentor Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 on bbc news 24 theres a story about men who could be released after 5 years serving a life sentence
gaggle64 Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Personally I think just throwing people into prison, for any amount of time, doesn't solve much. All that's going to happen is that they will very likely reoffend when they get out - I think we should use that time to put a greater emphasis on rehabilitating prisoners. Not sure what's going on with this whole "life not meaning life" thing though. Apparenly it's part of a policy that was implemented to increase the rate of convictions, by offering those who pleaded guilty reduced sentences. I'll have to get up to speed with this.
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