Nintendohnut Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 So what this ultimately proves is that the only in-game reference is her being a tomboy, which the dictionary says is a girl who acts like a boy (see my previous post), and that a "non-canon" manga (so basically not written by the people who make the game) is the only real reference to her changing gender. So, basically, according to the game she's a girl the whole time, according to a comic written by someone outside of the game completely, she changes. The game says she's a girl disguised as a man. Sounds like this is exactly what I (along with Deathjam, The-chosen-one, and others) have been arguing all along) Did you not read my post, or just ignore it? I made all these points before (as did Deathjam!) but you don't seem to address them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatoman Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 So what this ultimately proves is that the only in-game reference is her being a tomboy, which the dictionary says is a girl who acts like a boy (see my previous post), and that a "non-canon" manga (so basically not written by the people who make the game) is the only real reference to her changing gender. So, basically, according to the game she's a girl the whole time, according to a comic written by someone outside of the game completely, she changes. The game says she's a girl disguised as a man. Sounds like this is exactly what I (along with Deathjam, The-chosen-one, and others) have been arguing all along) Did you not read my post, or just ignore it? I made all these points before (as did Deathjam!) but you don't seem to address them. actually, NEVER in the game does it say she stays a girl, in fact, the game assumes that you think she changes, by saying she's a tomboy, you think she changed genders into sheik, i'm neither confirming nor dening the gender, just pointing out something also noone addressed them because this discussion is not what this thread is about, go make a new one, stop spamming this with sheik's gender. please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcoLombardi Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 FALCO SUX!! lol just kidding, falco's my 2nd fav starfaox character, after Krystal. SHE IS HAWT!!!! Krystal is a video game character. Not even a human video game character. But I bet Sheik's wang is massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 also noone addressed them because this discussion is not what this thread is about, go make a new one, stop spamming this with sheik's gender. please. Yeaaaaaaaaaaah. Sheik is a man FTWoooooooooooorld! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirited away Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Incase anyone wanted to know. Ngamer gave Smash Bros 93/100: " Nintendo love spills from every pore and the multipalyer can't be beat, but Smash BRos risks growing too familar. It never breeds contempt, but it doesn't quite muster that Galaxy magic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 actually, NEVER in the game does it say she stays a girl, in fact, the game assumes that you think she changes, by saying she's a tomboy, you think she changed genders into sheik, i'm neither confirming nor dening the gender, just pointing out something also noone addressed them because this discussion is not what this thread is about, go make a new one, stop spamming this with sheik's gender. please. No, it never says straight out that she is a girl, that is the whole point of the disguise, but as I have already said (twice now ) the word 'tomboy' according to the dictionary is "a girl who enjoys rough, noisy activities traditionally associated with boys". The first two words are very important there :P ...this isn't spam, it's a discussion. We could open a new thread, but we've had half the discussion now so there isn't much point. And we're not exactly taking up the whole thread, feel free to continue to talk about Smash, and I will join in. There just hasn't been a huge amount of interesting information recently Incase anyone wanted to know. Ngamer gave Smash Bros 93/100: " Nintendo love spills from every pore and the multipalyer can't be beat, but Smash BRos risks growing too familar. It never breeds contempt, but it doesn't quite muster that Galaxy magic". Hmm, well if that bad point is only worth knocking off 7% I'm happy enough. Shame it couldn't be higher, Sakurai did his best to make this a new, fresh game but I spose once you've made melee there isn't a huge number of things you can do. Still, 93% is pretty damn good! (Solitanze won't be happy though lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtle Squad Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Sheik is Zelda simply dressed up. She does not change gender. Also, I think it was king_V who posted a picture in which it looks like a man....that isn't official artwork, so it may just be from someone who has never played the game and was told to copy a character. Or whatever. Actually that's THE official artwork of OOT shiek, so don't talk bullshit. Zelda and Sheik are both female. It's not an opinion (otherwise I could say "Well, I've never seen that guy's genitalia, that could be a woman with small breasts" which is, frankly, stupid) it is a fact. Now please, let's move on. Super Smash Bros, remember? Wow....Jumping to narrow minded conclusions just because you don't like anyone elses say in the matter; very grown up. Sheik being male/female is neither fact nor opinion without official say so. Zelda's using a magical disguise, so before you go jumping to your guns just because someone believes Zelda transforms into a man, just remember that people can believe, with reason, what they want. Your argument is amazingly flawed, you're shooting down what people think without even thinking, and in fact, without seeing a cock/**** on Shiek, or without official say so from Miyamoto or similar, you can't say that it's a FACT she/he's anything. actually, NEVER in the game does it say she stays a girl, in fact, the game assumes that you think she changes, by saying she's a tomboy, you think she changed genders into sheik, i'm neither confirming nor dening the gender, just pointing out something Exactly!!! Anyway....I now reckon Brawl could be anywhere between late May and early June. Please not late June and definately not July.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Sheik = Female Why? BOOBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Hmmm... Theres some blantent boobage going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The almighty Jordan agrees. We WIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Almighty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Wow....Jumping to narrow minded conclusions just because you don't like anyone elses say in the matter; very grown up. So first you say that everyone can believe what they want to believe but then apparently my opinion is wrong and narrow minded? Nice. I'm also not sure how you think that post I made was narrow minded. I was making several good points to back up the facts, that is all. Sheik being male/female is neither fact nor opinion without official say so. ...So what is it then? And as I have said, the only in game reference to her gender, as people keep pointing out, is the word 'tomboy' describing Zelda. And as I have said repeatedly, this means a girl acting like a boy. Why does everyone ignore this fact and keep bringing up the tomboy thing when if anything it show's she is a girl? Your argument is amazingly flawed, you're shooting down what people think without even thinking, and in fact, without seeing a cock/**** on Shiek, or without official say so from Miyamoto or similar, you can't say that it's a FACT she/he's anything. I thought rather a lot about it actually, hence me making several valid points. Please point out these flaws in an obvious way so I can explain my points better. However I think my arguments are sound. And about seeing genitalia - okay so that "THE official artwork" you mentioned - have a look at it....do you see a bulge anywhere in the crotch area? No. Are there small bulges in the chest areas? Yes, and although they could be muscle, they just as easily could be strapped down breasts. Almighty? And oh yes, most definitely King of Fun and all that jazz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Link Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Haha, I pretty much started this! Though technically King V did! :wink: Anyways... FEMALE.....BLATENT.....DONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Winnaaaaaaaaaaas! *high-fives Retro* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I just find it incredibly funny that people think that the starting point is that there's no official word on it, so we can assume what we want. Here's a starting point: Sheik is Zelda, Zelda is a woman. THIS is the starting point. Anything more official than that would be bewbs in Brawl. She's wearing a magical disguise, but that doesn't mean she grew twig and berries, why the hell do people assume that? In a NINTENDO game, there's a character that snaps her fingers and changes her anatomy at least twice? Fascinating. Also, that Wiki article saying the bandages would restrict her movement? lol, it's the exact opposite! (also, this discussion is totally pointless and writing this on a crappy keyboard from a Chinese store connected to the Wii is painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somme Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I always though Sheik was male so I'll stay with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle64 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 In a NINTENDO game, there's a character that snaps her fingers and changes her anatomy at least twice? Fascinating. In fairness, they do have a transsexual dinosaur that currently co-stars in most of their party games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I can't believe you guys are taking this so seriously. It's MAGIC, damn it! We can't know for sure what actually happens when Zelda tranforms! She changes her skin and eye colour and obviously does something to change her body so that it looks like it's male. What about when Link tranforms into a wolf in TP? What happens to his clothes? Why doesn't his earrings tranform? You all wanna know why? 'Cause it's MAGIC! If it could be explained rationally, it wouldn't be magic! What I'm most tired of is that both sides try to prove that Sheik is male/female WHEN NEITHER HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED! It's been confirmed that Zelda changes into Sheik and that she can magically alter her eye and skin colour. She could be altering her body, too, but she could still be female. In the end, no one maybe except Miyamoto knows. Christ, people, it's the Brawl delay that's making you (and me) short-tempered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serebii Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Its more confirmed that Sheik is female than male as all official people use the term she when referring to Sheik PLUS SHEIK HAS BOOBS Now good christ people, let it go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-chosen-one Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 change the subject now please or make another room for sheik i want to know if there are any special unlockables like when you played with every character stuff like that if i look on the dojo the unlockables are easy to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Also are there any particularly hard trophies to get? How many trophies are there in total? It seems like NoE are trying to give us everything but Brawl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Why would Zelda change to a dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somme Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 What makes me laugh is how irate people get about simple coversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Falcon_BlizZACK Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I always though Sheik was male so I'll stay with that. *Hi Fives*...We should form a...band or something. Waaaaahahahahahaah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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