Mr-Paul Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 The sceptical part of me feels like Esequiel is not the townie role blocker, but a mafia one. After DuD warned that it is dangerous for a townie role blocker to come forward, Esequiel does it with no regards for his own safety - perhaps as he knows that he won't be killed. Also, if we act on a (mafia) role blocker's information and it leads to a townie lynch, he can claim that he didn't know for sure that they were town and thus survive longer himself - he was just acting on his information that there was no kill and he blocked Yvonne, therefore Yvonne = killer. Of course, it could equally be a townie's info leading to a townie lynch, but do you see how easily a mafioso could get off from any responsibility using this method? I know there's always that risk when going for a lynch, but I find the timing of his claim a bit fishy. Call me sceptical, but Dedede having an unverifiable claim for N1 and blocked N2 feels like a stronger bet to me. Yvonne, what is your character/role? Even though I'm currently more pro Dedede lynch, you still need to clear yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonne Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 @Mr\-Paul Do you remember Emit MrPim? If so, vote Dedede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuD Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Esequiel is the blocker I was aware of. Changevote: Dedede But I'm still wary of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonne Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Ese is not necessarily mafia, but for the last few games has gotten the impression that I am mafia every time. I suppose it makes a change from EEVILMURRAY roleblocking me at every opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I was succesful last night, unfortunately, that’s all my PM’s tell me. I need people’s comments to find out about the consequences of my actions. There’s one thing from the discussion I could clear up.. However, it doesn’t seem to be related to the prevention of any kill, so I’ll keep my mouth shut for now. Yvonne & Dedede, were you both roleblocked by the same blade wielding player again? Also I want to know who ran into protection before I consider voting. Info so far doesn’t suggest there is a 2nd roleblocker I believe (which doesn’t mean there isn’t any, just nothing to suggest it at this point). #### ReZ, any particular reason why you no longer think Magnus is town? Or just gut feeling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonne Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I think if magnus keeps coming out with tracking info that isn't contradicted, we'll know he will have a hard time lying, and also wouldn't be much use to mafia. I was only told I was roleblocked, no flavour in my PM at all. I don't think ese is the knifer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esequiel Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 You make a very bad ReZ impersonator btw :P Bewbs. Vagina. Lego. Ese is not necessarily mafia, but for the last few games has gotten the impression that I am mafia every time. Once i was mafia and knew you were town, the other time i was right! To be fair if Eevil was playing id be after him, just because lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbob Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I targetted Diageo last night, i was able to reach him. And can confirm i was the only person to have reached him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonne Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Lot of townie info roles coming out of the woodwork. The protector has their hands full! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbob Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I think it's safe to assume a lot of people targetted ReZ on night one, including potential protectors/roleblockers. With night 2, a different story altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Looking back I’m not satisfied with Dud’s reply to Yvonne about how he knew of a roleblocker. Dud claimed deduction. I want to know how you deducted this. A tracker or reverse tracker could deduct this kind of thing, but they are accounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuD Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I deduced it from my info. I'm not revealing my power unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sméagol Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Does that include info from yesterday? ######## Just to add: I suspect you may actually be a rolecop despite claiming otherwise. Hence me asking. ######## Just to add 2: Esequiel, did anything happen to you, that you are aware of? Good? Bad? If it’s good, you don’t need to tell me what, just a yes will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 DuD is almost certainly telling the truth. You can at least trust his last few replies. I am happy to follow the Dedede lead. vote : Dedede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 DuD is almost certainly telling the truth. You can at least trust his last few replies. I am happy to follow the Dedede lead. vote : Dedede Out of interest, why do you trust his last few replies? I was successful last night. I've also been led to believe that my role is probably useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Out of interest, why do you trust his last few replies? I was successful last night. I've also been led to believe that my role is probably useless. I targeted DuD last night is all I will say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 @Diageo please reveal something, I've seen you browsing. If you don't then I suggest all roleblockers and whatever else just hammer him tonight for general lack of co-operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I have nothing to reveal. Nothing I can say will be beneficial for the town. I'm busy with things in life so will not partake in this weird back and forth, and half-baked leads. If I had more time I would be participating adamantly, but I will take the opportunity that I have little time to wait things out before trying to be of any use. I call it the jayseven approach. Remain low so there's no death and appear later on when the game requires it. I would ask that you don't roleblock me or tell others to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReZourceman Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Like....to not give anything though? Not even one of your targets? You see that is suspicious. Even if you are town, its just disruptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I urge everyone to vote @Diageo purely out of lack of co-operation. Saying you're too busy to give anything (even 'successful' or a target name) while in the process typing War and Peace is more than a little ridiculous. Vote: Diageo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonne Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I understand and agree with that point on its own merits, but doesn't it make more sense to press that tomorrow after we have secured a Dedede lynch? This is going to bring us much closer to a concrete killer at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Not playing? Now that's a classic Mafia excuse. @Dedede who did you target last night? I'm interested. I sent Rummy to Yvonne successfully, sounds crazy I know. Not sure how he would have ended up dead...yvonne the killer? Killer went for yvonne and got rummy? This is madness. Well I am suspicious of him based on the above. I asked Dedede on D2 what he did on N1 since he seemed a bit shifty. In actual fact I had nothing actually on him, but I can see how he might have thought asking him who he targeted could have been a chance to catch him out lying. So he may have felt forced to admit to targeting Rummy (then deceased). Then he also gets roleblocked on a night when there was no kill. However...the confession of redirector seems a bit odd. Supposing he is a Mafia redirector, it seems highly odd to me that they would use their redirector 2 nights in a row to kill. I've always considered redirection to be one of the Mafia's most useful tools. Of course, it could be he isn't a redirector, but that seems kind of an odd thing to do given they are often scum associated. Tough call, I want some more thoughts on this before I get on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Votes: Yvonne (2): Dedede, Esequiel Dedede (3): Yvonne, DuD, ReZourceman Diageo (1): Sheikah Majority is 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvonne Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 vote with your heart people...but mostly your mind. Today should end in a lynch. Even if it's mine, you'll at the very least get a whole bunch of concrete information. Just put that shit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diageo Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Don't split your vote on me. That will do no good. I am certain that even verifying my target will be worse than nothing at all. Please just desist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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