General Gaming Sales/Charts Discussion

[Rummy]

The gaming market isn't what it used to be; as said tablets/phones and cheap easy even free games have come into play, games on social media like facebook have come into play - previously handhelds or even console gaming might have filled the bored times of these folks but sadly not as much now. Steam-like cheap and easyness is the way forward!

[Daft]

Bar Tearaway, QuizUp on iOS has been the most fun I've had on a handheld in at least a year. And it was free.

[Clownferret]

smartphones are crushing handheld consoles. In some cases it's justified, if you compare Candy Crush to Zoo Keeper, they are very similar games, except one does not require a £100 console and £30 game to play.

 

Sony are also looking in financial difficulties, when will Sony and Nintendo get over themselves, team up on a mega console and handheld smartphone that contains Sony's grunt, Nintendo's software catalogue, 3rd party support and take over the world and be happy with a 50% market share.

[Serebii]

Super Mario 3D World: 1.94 million

New Super Mario Bros U: 1.74 million (in this fiscal year)

New Super Luigi U: 1.51 million

Wii Party U: 1.24 million

Wind Waker HD: 1.15 million

 

Shown at the investor meeting

[liger05]

Tomb Raider gets to #1

 

Square-Enix’s ‘Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition’ debuts at No1 as a next-gen PS4/XB One re-launch of last years ‘Tomb Raider’ re-boot (debuted in week 10, 2013 as what turned out to be the fourth biggest week 1 seller on the All Formats in 2013).

 

EA’s ‘FIFA 14’ (-4%) drops to No2 and is less than 500 sales behind. Given the scarcity of releases at this time of year, ‘FIFA 14’ will be hoping to re-take No1 next week which would give the title entrance to the small elite club of products that have aquired 10 weeks at No1 on the All Formats Chart (currently 10 titles).

The rest of the Top 10 remains pretty much unchanged, with Activision’s ‘Call of Duty: Ghosts’ down 1 place at No3 (+19%), EA’s ‘Battlefield 4’ down 1 place at No4 (-5%) and Warner’s ‘LEGO Marvel Super Heroes’ also down 1 place to No5 (+11%).

 

1 TOMB RAIDER: DEFINITIVE EDITION PS4 SQUARE ENIX SQUARE ENIX EUROPE

1 2 FIFA 14 PS4 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS

2 3 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT

- 4 TOMB RAIDER: DEFINITIVE EDITION XB ONE SQUARE ENIX SQUARE ENIX EUROPE

7 5 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS XB360 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

5 6 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS PS4 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

3 7 KILLZONE: SHADOW FALL PS4 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.

4 8 FIFA 14 XB360 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS

8 9 BATTLEFIELD 4 PS4 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS

6 10 FIFA 14 XB ONE EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS

19 11 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS PS3 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

11 12 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES XB360 WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE

21 13 GRAN TURISMO 6 PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.

10 14 BATTLEFIELD 4 XB ONE EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS

9 15 FIFA 14 PS3 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS

16 16 GRAND THEFT AUTO V XB360 ROCKSTAR TAKE 2

12 17 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG PS4 UBISOFT UBISOFT

14 18 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS XB ONE ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

18 19 FOOTBALL MANAGER 2014 PC SEGA SEGA

13 20 GRAND THEFT AUTO V PS3 ROCKSTAR TAKE 2

17 21 FORZA MOTORSPORT 5 XB ONE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT

15 22 BATTLEFIELD 4 XB360 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS

23 23 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS PS4 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS

24 24 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES PS4 WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE

30 25 LEGO MARVEL SUPER HEROES PS3 WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE

22 26 DEAD RISING 3 XB ONE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT

20 27 MARIO PARTY: ISLAND TOUR 3DS NINTENDO NINTENDO

33 28 WWE 2K14 XB360 2K SPORTS TAKE 2

27 29 KNACK PS4 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.

26 30 BATTLEFIELD 4 PS3 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS

32 31 RYSE: SON OF ROME XB ONE MICROSOFT MICROSOFT

25 32 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG XB360 UBISOFT UBISOFT

34 33 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG XB ONE UBISOFT UBISOFT

37 34 THE LAST OF US PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.

29 35 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS XB360 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS

- 36 ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF 3DS NINTENDO NINTENDO

35 37 ALIENS: COLONIAL MARINES XB360 SEGA SEGA

39 38 POKEMON Y 3DS NINTENDO NINTENDO

- 39 POKEMON X 3DS NINTENDO NINTENDO

- 40 TOMB RAIDER XB360 SQUARE ENIX SQUARE ENIX EUROPE

[Sheikah]

Impressive for a re-release on a new console really.

[Daft]

With 69% of those copies sold on PS4 too, I'm sure Sony will love reading that figure.

[Ashley]

Who doesn't love the number 69?

 

That one's for you @ReZourceman!

[liger05]

Impressive for a re-release on a new console really.

 

It sold 27k combined. I thought it would be higher to be honest.

[Sheikah]

It's a game that came out not that long ago though (but still being charged full price) to be fair, and being bought by people who likely already had the opportunity to buy the PS3/whatever version.

[khilafah]

Wii U Fit = Bomba!!!

 

Cant believe Nintendo thought this would do well and change the fortunes of Wii U.

 

Everyone apart from them knew it was gonna bomb hard.

 

Media Create Sales: Week 5, 2014 (Jan 27 - Feb 02)

 

01./00. [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs. Full Boost # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.01.30} (¥7.980) - 269.940 / NEW

02./00. [PS3] Diablo III <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.01.30} (¥7.980) - 41.727 / NEW

03./02. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.800) - 39.166 / 392.457 (-32%)

04./00. [PSV] Disgaea 4 Return <SLG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2014.01.30} (¥6.729) - 33.749 / NEW

05./01. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.01.23} (¥6.990) - 30.202 / 206.515 (-83%)

06./07. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 27.670 / 373.199 (+58%)

07./03. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} (¥4.400) - 26.125 / 1.326.903 (-27%)

08./00. [3DS] Toushin Toshi <RPG> (Image Epoch) {2014.01.30} (¥6.279) - 23.036 / NEW

09./00. [PSV] Amagami (EBKore+) <SLG> (Kadokawa Games) {2014.01.30} (¥5.040) - 20.519 / NEW

10./09. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 14.950 / 3.925.609 (-12%)

11./08. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2013.12.05} (¥6.090) - 13.428 / 234.677 (-22%)

12./04. [PS3] Saints Row IV <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2014.01.23} (¥5.980) - 10.672 / 45.158 (-69%)

13./10. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.12.26} (¥4.800) - 10.048 / 366.541 (-33%)

14./14. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980) - 8.697 / 259.893 (-6%)

15./05. [PS3] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.01.23} (¥7.480) - 7.910 / 38.102 (-74%)

16./15. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 7.278 / 3.208.411 (-12%)

17./00. [PSP] Shinobi, Koutsutsu # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2014.01.30} (¥6.090) - 7.174 / NEW

18./11. [PS3] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.26} (¥7.140) - 6.913 / 273.084 (-34%)

19./16. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 6.566 / 477.253 (-14%)

20./17. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 6.492 / 695.906 (-10%)

 

Top 20

 

3DS - 9

PS3 - 7

PSV - 2

PSP - 1

WIU - 1

 

HARDWARE

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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |

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| 3DS # | 37.462 | 38.229 | 77.682 | 359.838 | 606.581 | 15.021.758 |

| PSV # | 22.246 | 23.290 | 9.596 | 179.915 | 72.777 | 2.535.272 |

| PS3 | 14.100 | 13.360 | 18.106 | 95.633 | 143.468 | 9.805.307 |

| WIU | 8.072 | 8.490 | 12.959 | 93.296 | 131.157 | 1.618.726 |

| PSP # | 3.366 | 3.428 | 12.191 | 28.859 | 112.373 | 20.097.268 |

| 360 | 260 | 260 | 870 | 1.521 | 5.001 | 1.640.837 |

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| ALL | 85.506 | 87.057 | 133.308 | 759.062 | 1.085.058 | 50.719.168 |

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| PSVTV | 1.789 | 1.792 | | 13.624 | | 89.868 |

| PSV | 20.457 | 21.498 | 9.596 | 166.291 | 72.777 | 2.445.404 |

| 3DSLL | 26.042 | 26.484 | 51.654 | 239.113 | 363.456 | 5.664.999 |

| 3DS | 11.420 | 11.745 | 26.028 | 120.725 | 243.125 | 9.356.759 |

| PSP | 3.366 | 3.428 | 12.191 | 28.859 | 112.373 | 19.921.281 |

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[Sheikah]

Sweet, they've done Disgaea 4 for Vita? Will so get that if they ever bother translating/releasing it elsewhere. Even USA would do.

[Andyliini]

Not sure if this is the correct place to discuss about gaming companies annual profits and losses, but I thought this would be the best place, as many companies will be releasing their annual numbers soon.

 

Sony's prediction.

 

Their annual numbers aren't looking too good. Even though good sales of PS4 made them profit for Q3 a few days ago, the annual loss is projected to be about $1.1 billion. This change is drastic, as they were projecting $300 million profit last quarter.

 

Main reason for this was the TV-business, which hasn't been doing well in the past decade. CEO Kaz Hirai denied the rumours of selling the TV business. PC business, however, will be axed and sold to Industrial Partners.

 

Aside from that, about 5000 jobs will be axed to save money, and in order to return to profits in 2015.

[Hero-of-Time]

Their gaming division is doing fine. It's the rest that needs restructuring, which Kaz is doing nicely.

[Daft]

Green shoots everywhere. Problems have been identified and the company is being streamlined, it's all pretty encouraging.

 

And gaming is one of their core divisions. To think it started as a grudge.

[Phube]

From what I read the other day Sony has now dropped VAIO, and will concentrate on phones and tablets...

[Andyliini]

From what I read the other day Sony has now dropped VAIO, and will concentrate on phones and tablets...

 

Yes, that's right. There's also a rumour flying around that their TV business is also goin go be sold, altough Hirai is currently denying it. Personally I woudn't ever even consider a Bravia, they are quite expensive compared to many other label, and there's something about their image quality I don't like. Too jaggy, maybe.

 

But revising from $300 million profit to $1.1 billion loss is definitely not good, and tells of huge problems within the already troubled and indebted company. They have put the usual wheels into action, but I really wonder if it's enough. I personally think they will have to at least get rid of TV business before they can recover. They have been troubling ever since mid-2000's and even now there seems to be no end.

[Sheikah]

Well I just got a Bravia as they are right up there in terms of spec. The KDL42W653 is ridiculously good for low input lag which is what it's all about for gaming. Far better than equivalent Samsung/Panasonic (~£500 range).

 

Soon to be released Playstation now is also going to work on Bravias so there's another good incentive.

[Wii]

Sony TVs are a rip-off compared to other brands and don't match the spec of Samsung and LG. Good riddance I say. They've not been up there since old school CRT Triniton TVs. They need to cut the fat.

[Sheikah]

Sony TVs are a rip-off compared to other brands and don't match the spec of Samsung and LG. Good riddance I say. They've not been up there since old school CRT Triniton TVs. They need to cut the fat.

 

Again, I'm not sure where this is coming from, as I did a lot of research before buying a TV. The Sony W6/W8 range came out on top as some of the best (non ridiculously priced) overall but particularly for gaming because of the extremely low input lag. As far as I can remember the Bravia range have always been sitting at the top of the semi-affordable - slightly expensive TV range. It wouldn't surprise me if they're losing sales to Samsung purely because Samsung TVs tend to produce cheaper and more affordable sets.

 

In terms of reviews, the TV I got scored near perfect marks from pretty much everywhere, and generally looks really nice compared to the cheaper brands. Although saying that, the TV I got is cheaper than quite a lot of Samsung models of similar spec. My TV cost about £469 in the end due to a John Lewis price match, but comparing this to a same-price Samsung (UE40F6320) the Sony TV is better. Sony seem to be pricing more affordably these days.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Sheikah

[Clownferret]

Sony/Samsung/LG tv's have always been comparable but Samsung and LG have always been cheaper, probably due to being Korean. It's worrying for Sony that they are failing in what has always been their key markets. They are now relying on their games division to keep them afloat and they lost 50% of that market in the previous gen!

[Andyliini]

They are now relying on their games division to keep them afloat and they lost 50% of that market in the previous gen!

 

I was about to write about Film and Music divisions also being profitable, but it seems lately that even their Film division went negative. Taken into account that TV's haven't been selling very well for the last decade, and camera business is being destroyed by Canon and Nikon.

 

I really feel the corporation is slowly withering from inside.

[Hero-of-Time]

In Japan the 3DS gets a small boost, while everything else drops.

 

1. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru and Luca’s Wonderful Mysterious Keys – 443,656 (New)

2. [3DS] Puyopuyo Tetris – 44,627 (New)

3. [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme VS. Full Boost – 29,647 (299,587)

4. [3DS] Yokai Watch – 28,407 (401,606)

5. [3DS] Kirby: Triple Deluxe – 24,658 (417,115)

6. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Z – 16,876 (1,343,779)

7. [PSV] Terraria – 15,070 (New)

8. [PSV] Super Heroine Chronicle – 14,467 (New)

9. [PS3] Diablo III – 13,204 (54,931)

10. [3DS] Pokemon X and Y – 11,963 (3,937,571)

11. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 4 – 10,968 (217,483)

12. [PS3] Puyopuyo Tetris – 10,306 (New)

13. [PS3] Super Heroine Chronicle – 9,618 (New)

14. [PSV] Puyopuyo Tetris – 8,973 (New)

15. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind – 8,130 (242,806)

16. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds – 6,105 (372,647)

17. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V – 5,799 (701,706)

18. [PSV] Disgaea 4 Return – 5,781 (39,530)

19. [PSV] Ebikore+ Amagami – 5,779 (26,298)

20. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 – 5,654 (3,214,065)

 

3DS LL – 36,306 (26,042)

PlayStation Vita – 16,951 (20,457)

3DS – 12,002 (11,420)

PlayStation 3 – 10,240 (14,100)

Wii U – 7,180 (8,072)

PSP – 2,948 (3,366)

PlayStation Vita TV – 1,331 (1,789)

Xbox 360 – 194 (260)

[liger05]

In Japan the 3DS gets a small boost, while everything else drops.

 

The 3DS sales are worrying. Another game does big numbers and but the HW sales didnt really move. Seems like its really hit saturation point.

 

Puyopuyo Tetris pretty much bombed on everything other than the 3DS. The Wii U version didnt even chart in the top 20.

 

I wonder whether DK will even sell 100k first week and is the Wii U even on track to reach the revised forecast?

 

Vita had three new releases so thought its sales would of been better than they are this week.

Edited February 12, 2014 by liger05

[Goron_3]

Sony/Samsung/LG tv's have always been comparable but Samsung and LG have always been cheaper, probably due to being Korean. It's worrying for Sony that they are failing in what has always been their key markets. They are now relying on their games division to keep them afloat and they lost 50% of that market in the previous gen!

 

Tbf Nintendo have lost much more than that with Wii U