General Gaming Sales/Charts Discussion

[Hero-of-Time]

Just funny the talk only started once the ps4 bombed though, never mentioned before. In fact there was anticipation to how it would do... Fine it quite painful to be honest.

 

Also, Japan is so important to the mediums history that we should keep aware.

 

I agree. People ( myself included ) thought the Wii U was just not selling because of what it was, just like it wasn't in the other territories. It wasn't until the PS4 arrived that we seen clearly that the console market is pretty much done there at the moment.

 

We couldn't have seen this event until the PS4 arrived due to how badly the Wii U was selling elsewhere. Although Sony maybe had an insight in to this happening, which is possibly why they focused on the West first, which turns out was a very smart move, especially considering how low supplies were at launch.

 

Yes, Japan plays an important part of out hobbies history but there is no denying that a power shift happened last generation and the west became the dominate force in terms of developers. So many Japanese developers lost the plot with HD development and now most of them are chasing the mobile rainbow.

[Wii]

July 2014 NPD: Nintendo’s response – Mario Kart 8 crosses 1 million, 3DS software hits 40 million

 

Mario Kart 8 has now sold more than 1 million total units in the United States alone, becoming the second Wii U game to cross that milestone, along with New Super Mario Bros. U (1.69 million). Mario Kart 8 continues to drive momentum for the Wii U platform. Through the first seven months of 2014, total sales of Wii U hardware and software have increased by nearly 60 percent and more than 135 percent, respectively, over the same period in 2013.

 

Notable Wii U games on the way this year include: Hyrule Warriors (Sept. 26), Bayonetta 2 (October), Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Holiday) and Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Holiday). These games will be joined by amiibo, Nintendo’s foray into the toys-to-life category, which will launch this holiday season. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U will be the first game to support amiibo. Other games that will support amiibo include Mario Kart 8, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Mario Party 10 and Yoshi’s Woolly World, with more to come.

 

The continued strength of the Nintendo 3DS platform can be attributed to the breadth and quality of its overall lineup of software. To date, more than 40 million Nintendo 3DS software units have been sold in the United States alone. This includes 41 titles with a Metacritic score of 80 or higher, seven of which have a score of 90 or higher; and nine games that have sold at least 1 million units in the U.S. alone:

 

• Mario Kart 7: 3.48 million
  
• Super Mario 3D Land: 3.09 million
  
• New Super Mario Bros. 2: 2.28 million
  
• Pokémon X: 2.10 million
  
• Pokémon Y: 2.01 million
  
• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D: 1.39 million
  
• Animal Crossing: New Leaf: 1.36 million
  
• Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon: 1.33 million
  
• The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds: 1.09 million
  

 

Source: NPD

[liger05]

July 2014 NPD: Nintendo’s response – Mario Kart 8 crosses 1 million, 3DS software hits 40 million

 

Mario Kart 8 has now sold more than 1 million total units in the United States alone, becoming the second Wii U game to cross that milestone, along with New Super Mario Bros. U (1.69 million). Mario Kart 8 continues to drive momentum for the Wii U platform. Through the first seven months of 2014, total sales of Wii U hardware and software have increased by nearly 60 percent and more than 135 percent, respectively, over the same period in 2013.

 

Notable Wii U games on the way this year include: Hyrule Warriors (Sept. 26), Bayonetta 2 (October), Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Holiday) and Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Holiday). These games will be joined by amiibo, Nintendo’s foray into the toys-to-life category, which will launch this holiday season. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U will be the first game to support amiibo. Other games that will support amiibo include Mario Kart 8, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Mario Party 10 and Yoshi’s Woolly World, with more to come.

 

The continued strength of the Nintendo 3DS platform can be attributed to the breadth and quality of its overall lineup of software. To date, more than 40 million Nintendo 3DS software units have been sold in the United States alone. This includes 41 titles with a Metacritic score of 80 or higher, seven of which have a score of 90 or higher; and nine games that have sold at least 1 million units in the U.S. alone:

 

• Mario Kart 7: 3.48 million
  
• Super Mario 3D Land: 3.09 million
  
• New Super Mario Bros. 2: 2.28 million
  
• Pokémon X: 2.10 million
  
• Pokémon Y: 2.01 million
  
• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D: 1.39 million
  
• Animal Crossing: New Leaf: 1.36 million
  
• Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon: 1.33 million
  
• The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds: 1.09 million
  

 

Source: NPD

 

MK8 beasting

[Daft]

How does that track against previous MK games?

[Wii]

How does that track against previous MK games?

 

Mario Kart franchise sales:

 

Year Platform Title Sales

(in Millions)

1992 SNES Super Mario Kart 8.76

1997 Nintendo 64 Mario Kart 64 9.87

2001 Game Boy Advanced Mario Kart: Super Circuit 5.91

2003 GameCube Mario Kart: Double Dash! 6.88

2005 DS Mario Kart DS 23.56

2008 Wii Mario Kart Wii 35.53

2011 3DS Mario Kart 7 9.62

2014 Wii U Mario Kart 8 2.82

 

It's the weakest of the series sales wise but there's a long way to go and MK has legs. It's entirely possible at the end of this console cycle it'll be the least sold which would be wrong. DLC could help spike sales some more. Battle Mode needs to be fixed.

[Debug Mode]

Just funny the talk only started once the ps4 bombed though, never mentioned before. In fact there was anticipation to how it would do... Fine it quite painful to be honest.

 

Also, Japan is so important to the mediums history that we should keep aware.

 

Never mentioned before? Are you just making shit up?

 

There was a lot talked about how well it was going to do there because we all knew it was going to have an extremely rough time having no titles to cater to the Japanese audience for a good while.

[dazzybee]

Never mentioned before? Are you just making shit up?

 

There was a lot talked about how well it was going to do there because we all knew it was going to have an extremely rough time having no titles to cater to the Japanese audience for a good while.

 

Are you making shit up? I don't remember these conversations at all.

 

Someone with far more time than me will hopefully go back through the thread.

[Retro_Link]

I thought it was a bit of an odd comment too. Everyone knew the PS4 wasn't going to do that well in Japan, that's why it was third priority when it came to launching the console. No one is surprised by the sales, and Sony are probably shipping quite small numbers there.

[liger05]

I thought it was a bit of an odd comment too. Everyone knew the PS4 wasn't going to do that well in Japan, that's why it was third priority when it came to launching the console. No one is surprised by the sales, and Sony are probably shipping quite small numbers there.

 

nobody surprised? You think people expected the wii u to sell worse than the wii u? I didnt expect it to fly off the shelves due to the lack of games but selling 5k a week so soon. No way!!

[Daft]

What does 5k or even 10k units a month matter when in America consoles sell up to 200k units a month?

[Goron_3]

Japan is not a console market, and tbh it hasn't been for some time. A box that you put in front of your TV just isn't part of their culture. It's about gaming on the go and everyone knows it.

[liger05]

What does 5k or even 10k units a month matter when in America consoles sell up to 200k units a month?

 

the sales outside Japan doesnt exuse the fact that currently in Japan the PS4 is selling worse than anyone would of imagined.

 

regardless of the western sales sony are going to have to do something to fix those sales.

 

Japan is not a console market, and tbh it hasn't been for some time. A box that you put in front of your TV just isn't part of their culture. It's about gaming on the go and everyone knows it.

 

well the last generation saw the wii and PS3 sell so i dont think you can just say nobody wants to use home consoles.

 

the problem is the wii u and ps4 so far havent delievered what people want hence the awful sales.

Edited August 16, 2014 by liger05

[Daft]

People don't want consoles there. They barely want handhelds.

[Ashley]

Post showing how consoles tracked behind phones in Japan in 2012: http://n-europe.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1597933&postcount=1177

 

It's by no means scientific but total sales from random dates in the past:

 

January 2013: http://n-europe.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1526281&postcount=195 Total 145490

 

July 2013: http://n-europe.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1590807&postcount=1076 Total 105898

 

August 2014: http://n-europe.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1701778&postcount=3118 Total 85479

 

As I said it's not scientific and someone can do better, but it does at least suggest console (home and portable) sales are declining in Japan and have been since before the PS4 (and probably Wii U, but can't be bothered to look more).

[Retro_Link]

regardless of the western sales sony are going to have to do something to fix those sales.

Why? when it's proving to be one of the best selling consoles of all time without Japan.

 

Yes it would be good if the sales of all video game consoles in Japan would pick up, but it's just not happening atm.

 

Anyway, I believe Sony have said they'll be working on some games more Japan focused. And also that Project Morpheus should appeal.

[liger05]

Why? when it's proving to be one of the best selling consoles of all time without Japan.

 

Yes it would be good if the sales of all video game consoles in Japan would pick up, but it's just not happening atm.

 

Anyway, I believe Sony have said they'll be working on some games more Japan focused. And also that Project Morpheus should appeal.

 

because they have a duty to shareholders to make sure the product is successful in all the markets it sells in.

[Ashley]

I don't think they're actively trying to make it perform badly in Japan, just not rushing into trying to fix it as they're doing well elsewhere. A poorly planned fix could cause problems and their success elsewhere means they don't need to rush.

[Wii]

This weeks Japanese software sales:

 

01./01. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) – 120.682 / 2.093.992 (-16%)

02./00. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.08.07} (¥6.145) – 81.584 / NEW <42,89%>

03./00. [3DS] Senran Kagura 2: Crimson # (Marvelous AQL) {2014.08.07} (¥6.998) – 46.494 / NEW <49,13%>

04./00. [PS3] Ultra Street Fighter IV # (Capcom) {2014.08.07} (¥4.309) – 42.327 / NEW

05./02. [3DS] Yoshi’s New Island (Nintendo) {2014.07.24} (¥4.936) – 22.752 / 114.229 (-31%)

06./03. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) – 20.860 / 599.414 (+15%)

07./00. [PSV] Shin Hayari Gami (Nippon Ichi Software) {2014.08.07} (¥6.264) – 12.585 / NEW

08./04. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don to Katsu no Jikuu Daibouken (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.06.26} (¥5.119) – 8.435 / 127.842 (-5%)

09./05. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) – 7.355 / 1.234.622 (-14%)

10./00. [PS3] Shin Hayari Gami (Nippon Ichi Software) {2014.08.07} (¥7.344) – 5.745 / NEW

11./11. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V (Bargain Edition) (Rockstar Games) {2014.06.26} (¥5.389) – 5.323 / 38.997 (+7%)

12./12. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) – 4.935 / 4.121.836 (+1%)

13./00. [3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix) {2014.08.07} (¥2.700) – 4.720 / NEW

14./06. [PSV] Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.07.17} (¥6.264) – 4.548 / 123.884 (-42%)

15./13. [3DS] Pokemon Art Academy (Nintendo) {2014.06.19} (¥3.908) – 4.326 / 84.588 (-11%)

16./17. [3DS] Gundam Tri Age SP (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.07.17} (¥6.145) – 4.112 / 37.043 (-4%)

17./00. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: All in One Package (Square Enix) {2014.08.07} (¥5.184) – 3.945 / NEW

18./18. [PSV] Freedom Wars (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.06.26} (¥6.264) – 3.869 / 275.667 (-4%)

19./00. [PSV] Lost Dimension (FuRyu) {2014.08.07} (¥6.782) – 3.868 / NEW

20./20. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) – 3.566 / 2.362.577 (+6%)

21./25. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800)

22./10. [PS3] Atelier Shallie: Alchemist of the Dusk Sea # (Gust) {2014.07.17} (¥7.344)

23./00. [PSP] Urakata Hakuoki: Akatsuki no Shirabe # (Idea Factory) {2014.08.07} (¥6.264)

24./23. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment # (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.04.24} (¥6.664)

25./38. [PS3] Under Night In-Birth Exe:Late (Arc System Works) {2014.07.24} (¥6.264)

26./24. [3DS] Mario Party: Island Tour (Nintendo) {2014.03.20} (¥4.800)

27./14. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990)

28./28. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.800)

29./22. [PS3] Watch Dogs (Ubisoft) {2014.06.26} (¥7.992)

30./00. [360] Ultra Street Fighter IV (Capcom) {2014.08.07} (¥4.309)

31./21. [PS4] FIFA 14 # (Electronic Arts) {2014.02.22} (¥7.665)

32./26. [PSV] Persona 4: Golden (Atlus) {2012.06.14} (¥7.329)

33./07. [3DS] Happiness Charge PreCure! Kawa-Run Collection (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.07.31} (¥5.627)

34./29. [3DS] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014: Samurai Blue Challenge (Konami) {2014.05.22} (¥5.119)

35./00. [PS3] Lost Dimension (FuRyu) {2014.08.07} (¥7.754)

36./31. [3DS] Hoppechan: Minna de Odekake! Waku Waku Hoppe Land!! (Nippon Columbia) {2014.07.17} (¥5.184)

37./34. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters – Tokimeki Up! (Nintendo) {2014.04.17} (¥4.936)

38./15. [PSV] Tokyo Shinseiroku: Operation Abyss # (5pb.) {2014.07.24} (¥6.264)

39./16. [PSV] Corpse Party: Blood Drive # (5pb.) {2014.07.24} (¥7.344)

40./35. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985)

41./32. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014: Samurai Blue Challenge (Konami) {2014.05.22} (¥8.208)

42./37. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)

43./19. [PSV] Child of Light: Special Edition (Ubisoft) {2014.07.31} (¥2.678)

44./41. [PS4] Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) {2014.02.22} (¥7.665)

45./42. [PSV] God Eater 2 (PlayStation Vita the Best) (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.07.10} (¥3.024)

46./45. [3DS] Tomodachi Life # (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800)

47./30. [PS3] Dead Island: Double Zombie Pack (Spike Chunsoft) {2014.07.24} (¥4.968)

48./39. [PS4] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # (Square Enix) {2014.04.14} (¥3.394)

49./44. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980)

50./49. [WIU] Wii Sports Club (Nintendo) {2014.07.17} (¥3.996)

00./00. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) – * / 290.000

 

Last weeks hardware sales:

 

|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |

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| 3DS # | 41.045 | 38.759 | 57.771 | 1.309.759 | 2.268.364 | 15.971.679 |

| PSV # | 18.428 | 18.685 | 17.639 | 798.218 | 646.303 | 3.153.575 |

| WIU | 13.598 | 9.646 | 9.950 | 346.320 | 409.092 | 1.871.750 |

| PS3 | 6.486 | 6.605 | 12.228 | 338.081 | 544.964 | 10.047.755 |

| PS4 | 5.470 | 5.695 | | 658.847 | | 658.847 |

| PSP # | 301 | 464 | 6.303 | 95.722 | 333.055 | 20.164.131 |

| 360 | 151 | 157 | 275 | 7.545 | 17.285 | 1.646.861 |

| PSVTV | 1.344 | 1.506 | | 55.717 | | 131.961 |

| PSV | 17.084 | 17.179 | 17.639 | 742.501 | 646.303 | 3.021.614 |

| 3DSLL | 33.172 | 31.740 | 38.822 | 979.187 | 1.471.447 | 6.405.073 |

| 3DS | 7.873 | 7.019 | 18.949 | 330.572 | 796.917 | 9.566.606 |

| PSP | 301 | 464 | 6.303 | 95.722 | 333.055 | 19.988.144 |

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Edited August 17, 2014 by Wii

[Goron_3]

the sales outside Japan doesnt exuse the fact that currently in Japan the PS4 is selling worse than anyone would of imagined.

 

regardless of the western sales sony are going to have to do something to fix those sales.

 

 

 

well the last generation saw the wii and PS3 sell so i dont think you can just say nobody wants to use home consoles.

 

the problem is the wii u and ps4 so far havent delievered what people want hence the awful sales.

 

The last generation started almost a decade ago, before tablets and smartphones became popular. Your comparison is invalid.

[liger05]

The last generation started almost a decade ago, before tablets and smartphones became popular. Your comparison is invalid.

 

Well not really as even during the smartphone/tablet boom the PS3 still shifted units.

 

I don't think anyone denies the market has contracted there is still a market their

[Wii]

This weeks UK sales chart:

 

1. (01) [PS4] The Last of Us: Remastered

2. (02) [360] Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition

3. (03) [PS3] Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition

4. (04) [3DS] Tomodachi Life

5. (07) [PS4] Watch Dogs

6. (06) [360] Grand Theft Auto V

7. (08) [360] The LEGO Movie Videogame

8. (11) [XBO] Titanfall

9. (21) [XBO] Forza Motorsport 5

10. (12) [360] Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare

11. (19) [XBO] Call of Duty: Ghosts

12. (14) [360] Terraria

13. (05) [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V

14. (13) [WIIU] Mario Kart 8

15. (NE) [PC] Command & Conquer: Ultimate Collection

16. (17) [PS4] Call of Duty: Ghosts

17. (10) [360] FIFA 14

18. (09) [360] Watch Dogs

19. (26) [360] Skate 3

20. (23) [360] Call of Duty: Ghosts

21. (25) [PS3] FIFA 14

22. (33) [360] LEGO Marvel Super Heroes

23. (22) [PS4] Battlefield 4

24. (24) [PS3] The LEGO Movie Videogame

25. (20) [360] Sniper Elite 3

26. (31) [360] Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag

27. (32) [PS4] FIFA 14

28. (28) [3DS] Pokemon Y

29. (35) [3DS] Pokemon X

30. (29) [XBO] FIFA 14

31. (30) [360] Battlefield 4

32. (15) [PS3] The Last of Us

33. (39) [360] Titanfall

34. (18) [PS3] Ultra Street Fighter IV

35. (27) [360] WWE 2K14

36. (37) [DS] Frozen: Olaf’s Quest

37. (16) [PS3] Watch Dogs

38. (RE) [PC] Football Manager 2014

39. (40) [PS3] Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag

40. (36) [PS4] EA Sports UFC

[Hero-of-Time]

@Wii when do the Japanese numbers hit? I'm interested to see what kind of a bump Hyrule Warriors gave the Wii U.

[Kaepora_Gaebora]

Microsoft have got to be questioning bringing the One to Japan surely. On the one hand they need to release in more territories, but if the PS4 is selling that badly I dread to think what the One will do in Japan, no matter how many exclusives or Japan centric games they have!

[Wii]

@Wii when do the Japanese numbers hit? I'm interested to see what kind of a bump Hyrule Warriors gave the Wii U.

 

Media Create will have sales figures tomorrow but it's selling well.

 

Hyrule Warriors Pushed Japanese Wii U Software Sales to “Four Times” Amount of Last Year, Hardware Selling Well

 

According to a new report from Tsutaya, Hyrule Warriors has been selling quite well in Japan, affecting both overall software and hardware sales. Tsutaya is the largest retail chain in Japan, and is used by analysts to predict software and hardware sales.

 

"The Obon Season [a three day Japanese festival made to honor ancestral spirits] saw strong sales over last year. Especially for the released Wii U software title Hyrule Warriors, with hardware sales going very well. The Wii U software division recorded sales nearly four times that of the previous year".

 

It further states that while sales aren’t usually as strong during the Obon season, sales from Hyrule Warriors still managed to be high. The Tsutaya chart from August 11th to the 17th even lists the title at number three.

 

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/08/19/hyrule-warriors-pushed-japanese-wii-u-software-sales-to-four-times-amount-of-last-year-hardware-selling-well/

[Hero-of-Time]

Good to hear it's doing well. I expected as much, I mean the DW games are popular over there and adding Zelda into the mix surely would increase the interest in this type of game.