Rummy Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Can somebody explain that First Past the Post thing a little more? I thought Mafia was done under a 'most votes' basis anyways. Mafia is usually done under a MAJORITY vote system, a majority factor of the whole. I.E 20 players need 11 to agree to make a decision. Most votes just means person with the most votes at the end of the day, could be less than 11. Votes: Person A(5) Person B(4) Person C(3) 20 players. Majority is 11. Under the majority system, 12 people have voted above. However because no person has 11(majority) votes on them, nobody gets elected/lynched/whatever'd. In the most votes however, Person A would be lynched, for having the most votes at the end of the day. Actually quite relevant in this game, as that's essentially like our current political voting system.
Beast Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Ah, I see. I love that system better. Gets the ball rolling when you're relying on one person to reach majority and they end up not getting lynched that night and you end up dying or something, haha.
Yvonne Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 First thing I'm going to do is propose alternative vote...
Jonnas Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Paul, my break is still going to last a while. Until July at the very least. The concept for this game sounds very interesting, though.
Mr-Paul Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 First thing I'm going to do is propose alternative vote... Not if I make you a tory, you won't :P And no worries Jonnas, shame to not have you on board, I trust you will not be on a break if I make a second game
Rummy Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Ah, I see. I love that system better. Gets the ball rolling when you're relying on one person to reach majority and they end up not getting lynched that night and you end up dying or something, haha. Yeah. Theoretically it should help avoid inactivity/quiet stalling of votes, and also make the No Lynch much more used/worthy. It's an interesting change to the mechanics without flipping the game completely upside down, and I'm excited to see it again with larger numbers, as I don't feel we saw the best it had to offer in the game we tried it in.
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 I followed the first game trying it out, and it really the way it changed the game, so I'm really looking forward to trying it out.
Mr-Paul Posted June 25, 2012 Author Posted June 25, 2012 Very good turnout so far, thank you! Need a couple more for it to be how I have planned, get in on it @ReZourceman @heroicjanitor @chairdriver @Zell @EddieColeslaw @Eenuh@Ellmeister @Fierce_LiNk And if you are on a mafia break, this game won't be a for a week or two, so you can end your break with my game :P Final call for sign up guys before I finalise roles, you know ya want to :P Also, considering another experiement - a ban on no lynches past day one. Thoughts? Might save it for another game.
The Peeps Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I can't see that being of benefit to anyone except the mafia. If people know/believe someone is innocent but there are unsure townies/mafia voting on them, the only way to save that person is to vote no lynch. With no lynches banned, they'd be forced to vote for someone else who they would all have to agree on and none of them may actually be sure of that person. So personally I'd be against that :p
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I agree completely. No Lynch becomes very important in the Most Votes system, so forcing people to lynch someone would completely work against the system.
The fish Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I'm in, but only if I can claim expenses rent for living in a house owned by myself. :P
Mr-Paul Posted June 25, 2012 Author Posted June 25, 2012 I can't see that being of benefit to anyone except the mafia. If people know/believe someone is innocent but there are unsure townies/mafia voting on them, the only way to save that person is to vote no lynch. With no lynches banned, they'd be forced to vote for someone else who they would all have to agree on and none of them may actually be sure of that person. So personally I'd be against that :p I agree completely. No Lynch becomes very important in the Most Votes system, so forcing people to lynch someone would completely work against the system. I do have the same misgivings as you guys, but would like to see it tried at some point. I think you'd have to have a quite info heavy game, but also you'd need to get the balance absolutely perfect. It probably isn't for this game with its most votes, but maybe in a time-limit free game, it could work.
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 It would be pretty interesting in a standard majority game. No time limits, no No Lynches - every day has to end with a successful lynch. I can see the game slowing to a halt and dying out, though. There would need to be a lot to work with. Would probably work best with information in the write-ups.
Mr-Paul Posted June 25, 2012 Author Posted June 25, 2012 I want one more player. Then it will be almost ready to start, maybe start sending PMs out tonight/tomorrow.
Ellmeister Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 No thanks Mr-Paul, as much fun as this looks (like many other mafias) I don't have the time it deserves to be given!
EddieColeslaw Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Sorry dude, thanks for the mention, but it's an extended mafia break for me! It sounds fun though, make sure you add in lots of scandal I'll be checking it now and then!
heroicjanitor Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I'm still on a break from mafias, so no dice I'm afraid
Mr-Paul Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 Shame so many people are on breaks at the mo, I hope you have a read through anyway! Have cut a role and PMs will go out TODAY!
Eenuh Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Sorry, no mafias for me. Just don't have the time to go online anymore so I wouldn't be able to keep up/be active in the game.
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