Hem Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 ...blind, to the ways of mankind. Pretty poignant issue. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 do you have a link or something? It's difficult to discuss this with no real information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Yeah link plz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letty Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 There is no link. The child grows up, and is influenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The fish Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Label three different children with "a communist, a nationalist, and a liberal democrat", people are outraged. Label them "a Muslim, a Catholic, and a Sikh", and no one bats and eyelid. People have no problem with presuming that their opinion on how to live ones life, and their belief in a deity or not, and their opinion of the universe's origins are already decided. I find this a little bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conzer16 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 A child's mind is moulded by it's parents, friends, culture, society, teachers, politicians, country etc etc etc. A child learns a language by repeating what he or she hears - they are a clean slate or blank piece of paper (so to speak) and many many many people and situations and experiences will leave their mark shaping and moulding the child into what they ultimately become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 The first post had about as much sense put in to it as if I opened a thread saying "So, rape. Discuss." How about an explanation? It's an interesting topic sure, but I didn't have a clue what it was until I saw people continue the discussion. What about your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 The first post had about as much sense put in to it as if I opened a thread saying "So, rape. Discuss." How about an explanation? It's an interesting topic sure, but I didn't have a clue what it was until I saw people continue the discussion. What about your thoughts? exactly a link or something would be nice.....freckin anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairdriver Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I hate indoctrination. That's all I have to say on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyellowbloke Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 He's quoting a song by Grandmaster Flash and Sugarhill Gang. A seminal hip-hop moment it is. Maybe the lyrics will reveal the reasoning of the thread Broken glass everywherePeople pissing on the stairs, you know they just Dont care I cant take the smell, I cant take the noise Got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice Rats in the front room, roaches in the back Junkies in the alley with a baseball bat I tried to get away, but I couldnt get far Cause the man with the tow-truck repossessed my car Chorus: Dont push me, cause Im close to the edge Im trying not to loose my head Its like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder How I keep from going under Standing on the front stoop, hangin out the window Watching all the cars go by, roaring as the breezes Blow Crazy lady, livin in a bag Eating out of garbage piles, used to be a fag-hag Search and test a tango, skips the life and then go To search a prince to see the last of senses Down at the peepshow, watching all the creeps So she can tell the stories to the girls back home She went to the city and got so so so ditty She had to get a pimp, she couldnt make it on her Own Chorus: Its like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder How I keep from goin under My brothers doing fast on my mothers t.v. Says she watches to much, is just not healthy All my children in the daytime, dallas at night Cant even see the game or the sugar ray fight Bill collectors they ring my phone And scare my wife when Im not home Got a bum education, double-digit inflation Cant take the train to the job, theres a strike At the station Me on king kong standin on my back Cant stop to turn around, broke my sacroiliac Midrange, migraine, cancered membrane Sometimes I think Im going insane, I swear I might Hijack a plane! Chorus: My son said daddy I dont wanna go to school Cause the teachers a jerk, he must think Im a Fool And all the kids smoke reefer, I think itd be Cheaper If I just got a job, learned to be a street sweeper I dance to the beat, shuffle my feet Wear a shirt and tie and run with the creeps Cause its all about money, aint a damn thing Funny You got to have a con in this land of milk and Honey They push that girl in front of a train Took her to a doctor, sowed the arm on again Stabbed that man, right in his heart Gave him a transplant before a brand new start I cant walk through the park, cause its crazy After the dark Keep my hand on the gun, cause they got me on the Run I feel like an outlaw, broke my last fast jaw Hear them say you want some more, livin on a Seesaw Chorus: A child was born, with no state of mind Blind to the ways of mankind God is smiling on you but hes frowning too Cause only God knows what you go through You grow in the ghetto, living second rate And your eyes will sing a song of deep hate The places you play and where you stay Looks like one great big alley way Youll admire all the number book takers Thugs, pimps, pushers and the big money makers Driving big cars, spending twenties and tens And you wanna grow up to be just like them Smugglers, scrambles, burglars, gamblers Pickpockets, peddlers and even pan-handlers You say Im cool, Im no fool But then you wind up dropping out of high school Now youre unemployed, all null n void Walking around like youre pretty boy floyd Turned stickup kid, look what you done did Got send up for a eight year bid Now your man is took and youre a may tag Spend the next two years as an undercover fag Being used and abused, and served like hell Till one day you was find hung dead in a cell It was plain to see that your life was lost You was cold and your body swung back and forth But now your eyes sing the sad sad song Of how you lived so fast and died so young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefkov Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Well, I know of a child/girl who was born deaf, dumb and blind. Is that what this is getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hem Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 Thankyou weeyellowbloke, and the song does have some reference. The topic in question is about the degradiation of society, (in the UK at least), on a youth based level. Yes, we hear almost daily bout the rapid rise of knife crime in inner cities suburbs such as the rougher parts of London. However, I was shocked last week to find out, that in my local rural village - of which there are less than 2000 people; five young people, aged between 13 and 15 were held at knife point by some youths (no older than 16) from a neighbouring village. This is just so their mobiles and wallets could be stolen. For the prize of less than 30 pounds respectively, these youths were risking harsh punishment and obviously prison, if they were over the age of 18. The question I pose is, is this new wave of street crime, 'new' at all, or has it worsened since the introduction of the Labour government over a decade ago? I don't intend to start a politics based argument, but do you think the state is responsible for these peoples action, by not educating them and providing entertainment out of school hours; or would you solely place the blame on the parents of these youths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 The parents, no doubt about it. Its not the state's job to provide entertainment to the kids, and they didn't for all the others non thieves kids, so clearly there's some problems with the way the parents are educating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxigen_Waste Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Values. Mixed up, they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtle Squad Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 these youths were risking harsh punishment and obviously prison, if they were over the age of 18. HAHAHA.....Nice joke:D The parents, no doubt about it. Its not the state's job to provide entertainment to the kids, and they didn't for all the others non thieves kids, so clearly there's some problems with the way the parents are educating them. OOoo....Something we can agree on; however, it is also the whole of society's repsposibility, though mainly the parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 OOoo....Something we can agree on; however, it is also the whole of society's repsposibility, though mainly the parents. I don't get your pet peeve with me, its normal for people to disagree. But in this case we do agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxigen_Waste Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 How about that kid who was born with a dick in his forehead? He was born with a state of mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellyn Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I don't think the growing population of chavs becoming parents is going to do anything for the next generation of children. How about that kid who was born with a dick in his forehead? He was born with a state of mind! Ba-dum-tsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Ninja0 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 How about that kid who was born with a dick in his forehead? He was born with a state of mind! That never happened. (i hope) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoogleViper Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 However, I was shocked last week to find out, that in my local rural village - of which there are less than 2000 people; five young people, aged between 13 and 15 were held at knife point by some youths (no older than 16) from a neighbouring village. My village has less than 100 people in, and we have our own drug culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtle Squad Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 I don't get your pet peeve with me, its normal for people to disagree. But in this case we do agree. Yeah, it's normal for people to disagree, but people seem to have rather odd, illogical views these days. The main one being racism; just being white and talking seems to make you racist these days....Or being black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Or being black OMFGGG YOU RACIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Yeah, it's normal for people to disagree, but people seem to have rather odd, illogical views these days. The main one being racism; just being white and talking seems to make you racist these days....Or being black ...But whats really your point here? I remember you made a random, out there joke post about a Black kid being shot up. Though I agree with you; being white and talking shite doesn't make you a racist, it just makes you a socially-alienated idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 ...But whats really your point here? I remember you made a random, out there joke post about a Black kid being shot up. Though I agree with you; being white and talking shite doesn't make you a racist, it just makes you a socially-alienated idiot. Black people just need a bit of common sense to discern between a joke and an insult. Why is the word nigger off limits to white people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Black people just need a bit of common sense to discern between a joke and an insult. Why is the word nigger off limits to white people? Question really is why would you want to use such a word in the first place? Why does your 'joke' always have to involve that word? And if Black people view the word as an insult when said by a non-Black person, then it IS identified as an insult, its simple, say it to a Black person to insult them. You've got a lot of other words to use as a 'joke' but why the fascination with that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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