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As a Chelsea fan I'd love to say this is the case but it is absolutely not! We've not been losing like we had but we've been drawing aplenty and still playing relatively awfully!

I'm fairly sure @welsh_gamer was there too @Cube

After a post @lostmario made in the NX Thread, it made me think... if the NX doesn't do it for me, I'll probably shell out the money on PSVR instead. It's all up to what's shown at E3 I guess.

Funnily enough, it's not actually bait. That is absolutely my stance. I don't play on my WiiU for this very reason... if we had it I'd play MK8, Smash and Splatoon all the time! That's the gods honest truth!

If it's got Party Chat at OS level, I'll day 1 it. If it doesn't, I probably won't buy the thing.

Haha, touché. I should've said that I don't care for a modern day Hollywood re-telling... as I did not rate that trailer at all.

The original The Magnificent Seven, and of course Seven Samurai (which it is based on), were excellent films! I don't care for a re-telling Hollywood style I must say.

Just reiterating the above. Another superb chapter from Oda. This man can do no wrong right now!

Yeah, sorry, I hadn't realised that's how you were asking. I know it's unrealistic of me and that they're going to do what's in their best business interest, but it's decisions like that which forces me away as a consumer... if console gaming is becoming more in-line with the PC model then I'll not buy into the console. They'll do what's in their interest and I'll do what's in mine. If I feel that it would be ruining my hobby then I'll stop... and I'll be sad that I'm stopping and so I'll make silly statements because I'm upset how things changed. Still, this is all conjecture and it may not effect me as I've said. It's just a concern.

That's correct but these are things outside of the system itself. I pay more for Internet so I have a good ping, I pay for a headset and use it so I can sound-whore and it give me the advantage... all these separate to the actual system itself though so that's another moot point. If they released Neo and Base at the same time I'd have bought the Neo for that advantage too... but I've already bought the PS4, so I would feel a bit mugged off unless they offered a trade-in deal. I felt a bit mugged off with the New 3DS but I bought that because I loved the Majora's Mask design and wanted the better features. @Ashley, I hadn't realised that's what RL was getting at. I know it's all speculative too, hence the big "if"... and it this point it is just a concern as I say.

I'd imagine if you wanted to up the frame rate on your PC you'd upgrade it... and I'd imagine it would not be at the cost of a new console... but I'm not 100% certain. I console game for that even playing field, that's my issue and I feel it's s very relevant point to make. Bringing up PC gaming in defence of it is moot as this is not PC gaming, it's console gaming. If, for arguments sake, Battlefield 5 came out for both Neo and Base consoles and online the Base version ran at 30fps but the Neo version ran at 60fps, I'd be very angry! It's at this point that I'd agree with Ronnie and say a big "fuck you" to Sony, as I feel that's a big piss-take! If your console wasn't ready for what you wanted games to run at, you shouldn't have released it. ...but that's only an "if", haha.

I guess my main concern now is online multiplayer. If the Neo versions of games run at better frame-rates online then those players will have an advantage over Base players. If this is the case then I'll not be happy at all!

@Ronnie, if you look back through all the posts, this argument didn't become an issue until you mentioned there being double-standards. Yes, people queried your anger but there was no problem there at that point. The arguments and back and forth came about as you talked about double-standards. Perhaps you could argue that it was when Retro Link said your post was juvenile and that incited your response, but the thing is; your post was juvenile, so there was merit in what he said. Now onto the double-standard thing... I imagine some of it has stemmed from our arguments going back and forth about my disdain towards Nintendo about voice-chat, as I've posted swear-filled rants... but the thing is, I can accept that my posts were juvenile. So what, it made me angry and upset and I felt like venting, even if it was in a juvenile manner! All that people have done here by questioning you is the exact same thing Serebii and you did with me and my posts. It's no different. The thing that I've said back in the past, which applies to this too is, so what if I vent and swear at Nintendo, just ignore it, let me be angry and get over it. Why jump to the defence of the company? I'm angry, I've every right to be, it's not stopping anyone else think their own thing about the issue. So in that case, everyone should let you be angry, but at the same time, there's absolutely no anti-Nintendo agenda and no double-standards... I'm afraid you are wrong in saying that.

I'll only use it purely as a Miifoto app from now on... and I'm already bored of that.

@Ronnie has every right to be angry, so what if he swears?! Let him vent! What's the big deal, why are you letting it effect you? Just ignore it, let it pass you by. But at the same time Ronnie, you can't moan at them for jumping on your back when you've jumped on mine over voice-chat.

If there's one thing for certain, this game isn't brown! It's a very colourful game. I bought the season pass just before the first DLC hit and I've just downloaded the new DLC now. I'm loving the game!

It's apparently been confirmed.

That's the best use of nipples I've seen in a videogame website video.

I don't know, I've not gamed on PC for many years now, so I couldn't say. Also, I don't know enough about the intricacies of development as well as the differences in developing for PC and for consoles and how that may effect the the worry I have. My worry may be unfounded for all I know, but because I don't know, the worry is there. My main thoughts as to this all is that the PS4 shouldn't have been released, they should've held off a little longer and just released the Neo as the PS4. Unless the console cycle is now going to come down to shorter time-frames... then I'll probably just go PC only.

I have a worry that game quality will be effected. How I mean is this: If a game is developed with the Neo as the primary version, the "blood, sweat and tears" of the dev goes into this build. Now my worry comes from the possibility that the Base version will not just take a hit in quality as a result of the specs etc. but also because not as much love has gone into that version. If there was just one console, then all the "love" would go into that one version of the game and even if it was on the Base console, it would run better than the game produced for the Base in the scenario above. Of course this might not necessarily be the case but it does worry me a bit.

Why the hell they so late reporting?! Haha I thought it must've been new info.

I hope the PS4K is in part a reactionary move to the NX and that the NX is as powerful as once rumoured.

Details of Neo over at Eurogamer: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-sonys-plan-for-playstation-4k-neo-revealed

I don't get why @Ronnie is getting so much grief. He's every right to be pissed off at the news. Why are people upset that he is?! So he reacts angrily, that's his prerogative. If it makes him feel angry he can vent. There's no problem with it. He's not anti-Sony, the guy bought a PS4 for god's sake. That he bought one and there's a possibility that he'll be getting games that aren't running as well they should pisses him off. What's wrong with that?

Brian Altano tweet: Ironic how they're calling it Neo, the Matrix didn't need sequels either.