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I still have my Wii, though it does not get much use beyond Brawl and even that is waning now, my recently purchased 360 would get a large part of my attention now, I think. Am I sold on motionplus? Well, no, because Nintendo DID to an extent misrepresent the accuracy of the original Wiimote, and so I am going to take MotionPlus with a pinch of salt and see what it can do first before I get all excited, but I think it does show alot of promise, but once again I can't imagine the scope, but that's just cos I'm rather unimaginative

No. Just No. I will NOT buy a 1st person Zelda, because Link IS Zelda(well no, zelda is shiek as we all know, but you know what I mean). I want to have me a character model that I can see every minute that I play, I do not want first person swordfighting. Some weapons I can understand you need it(like the bow and arrow and boomerang) as they need a precise sort of aim(though you still had the option of not with z-targetting) but swordfighting is not a neccessity, and tbh, I want to be able to SEE my sword shitting the other dude up! It's half the fun! In sum; First person, No.

Tis early, tis sunny, tis bird noisy, I'm freshly showered and I shall shortly(after I get significantly more clothed and eat) be heading into london to meet my friend and get my train into birmingham, I feel excited and great and right on top of the world! Weeeeeee!

I will second this with both the Bottom of the Well, the Sun Song tomb, and the Shadow Temple as well. I used to only be allowed to play my consoles on weekends, so come friday and saturday I would stay up well late til the wee hours, in the dark and alone, and the drip...drip...drip with eerie overtones of both the bottom of the well and the shadow temple, combined with all the invisible/shock stuff in it such as shadow crawlers and fake floors, has to have been one of the spookiest times of my life. I believe one night I had to play with the sound down, it was that bad for me(I used to have a perpetual fear of the dark until a silly age, now I revel in it).

Heh, I was considering the travelling thing too, but monies ain't so flowing and my laziness means I haven't got that sorted either! I know it'd mean just putting off getting a job too, so this is why I'd like to try and get a degree level job for a year or two or something, move out, save some monies, then take a break with travelling, holiday whatever, then maybe look for doing further study. Anyway, this thread isn't just for me or just for Psychology. What degree have you done and what have you got in mind for a job? Throw it out there and see if anyone might be able to help point you in the right direction you wanna go!

Goddamn, only just about nearly finished packing my bag(due to some 360 bioshocking and a tiny bit of castle crashing) and crazy paranoid I'm forgetting/going to forget something crucial. Missed the Buzzcocks until I read this thread, just wathced in on the iPlayer on VM, pretty good episode actually! Better than last week's, I mean, kudos to Stephen Fry as one of my favourite people out there and all, but he just seemed rather out of his element on Buzzcocks. Also think Kelly Rowland was rather amusing, she must have been confused as crap being there.

I was hoping you might stop by after I read your post in the suicide thread, I was about to PM you as it happens! When I started my degree and still at the moment, I half planned to get into counselling eventually. I've not looked into it too much but a few people said a good way would be to go back and do further study, but I'm not keen on that right now as they also told me it's expensive and long. I feel like getting out there and working and getting something practical with my degree, experience related to it, thus a job I can get with it. As you may have read I currently work very part time in an acute psychiatric ward, but that's as a HCA, I don't know what sort of possibilities are open to me in a mental health setting with a degree in psychology. I don't know alot about it, but I also don't know where to find out either which leaves me in a problematic situation. I saw an internal posting within Oxleas(NHS healthcare trust I work for) for a job as an assistant psychologist in CAMHS locally, temporary for a year, but the problem is it wanted experience at least a year's experience with children, which I didn't have. I'm not entirely sure how keen I am on working with the same sort of demographic I currently do either but which I obviously have experience with, but I could deal with it if it's short term and I get some experience at degree level/relevant to the degree. I imagine it would be applicable to other fields depending on circumstance and whatnot. However, I'm open to alot of ideas, I know that the degree has broad applications and can stretch quite far(namely due to the research component). I remember seeing a job with Nintendo a few years back that I could have got with a psychology degree(i was obviously still studying then so no go) due to the SPSS and research component. I'm totally open to any sorts of ideas of the range of applications it has at degree level jobs, or anywhere I can find out some more clear and helpful information.

Ah, first port of call would be to join them! I filled the form in back in May, but I don't think I ever sent it off, which means it's floating about somewhere. I was really slack with everything since finishing because I just wanted a break from it all! I tried my careers service a few times after I finished but it was late and like 2 weeks before I couldn't use it anymore, and they kept being closed when I turned up so I gave up then. I'm determined to get my arse into gear now though. Your help and info is appreciated!

So, my first thread for a very long while(and not the one I've been meaning to post) but I'm at a bit of a loss really. I finished my degree this year in May, since which point I have done nothing but bum about wasting time on silly girls and mainly being out consuming sizeable amounts of alcohol with friends whilst working part time in between. However, said friends are now going away back to their sensible productive lives, I've come to terms with the silly of said girls, and as for drinking, well apparently it's no fun to be drinking alone. I need to get a life, or at least do something sensible and productive with mine! So, I think I should probably look to get a job(and maybe move out for a bit, as I've lived at home for all my degree). I have two problems though; Firstly, I have no idea what I want to do and Secondly, I have no idea where to even start looking. I do already have a part time job as and when I can get the work in it, but I'm looking to actually do something with my freshly acquired degree, which for the record is a BSc in Psychology. I'm not looking for anything forever, in fact, I'm rather keen on getting something kind of short term, but as I said I don't know where to start, and I have no idea about actually applying for proper serious jobs(I'm sure it's not like waltzing into your local GAME and handing them a CV). So basically, some of you guys out there must have jobs, degree level ones maybe, or know the processes of getting such a job. I'm basically looking for ideas of where to start, how to go about it, and how it should all be done. If it helps, Psychology is such a broad degree I can go into alot of fields, and I've noticed there's a few people who've studied/are studying Psychology on here so I thought the thread might be handy. So...erm...yeah, I'm useless and at a loss, is there anybody out there who can help me? I've got some ideas of what I'm after, but I won't make this thread all about me(hopefully it might be handy to anyone else in a similar position, or who will be in a year or two).

You'd blates stick it in though, wouldn't you? Or would you take the more subtle popcorn approach? I lol'd What...what do you actually even study? As for me and my day, it's been uneventful, got a constant train of thought in my head about previously mentioned matters and it bugs me that I do because I don't know why I do, I am so bored out of my nut all I can do is think. Damn all my friends going back off to uni and places and being busy right when I need them! I have no one to do anything with and it's well crappy after having spent an entire summer being busy. On the plus side, I've been otherwise distracting myself with some old school Donkey Kong Country(I actually died alot playing it today, it's been ages since I properly died constantly in games) and then had an hour's Brawlage with a mate, though he was dissappointingly not on form. Then had a shufty on the Nintendo site for jobs, and am possibly contemplating trying to get something with them for a few months, as I'm all degreed up and completely at a limbo in my life. On which note, I have no idea where to even start looking for jobs and stuff, but I'll post me a thread on that later. Buuuuut...it'll have to wait, because if the mountain won't come to mohammed, then mohammed will come to the mountain! And so aforementioned friends around the country are getting visitations from me(I was in hatfield two weeks ago) and I'm heading up to Birmingham tomorrow til monday or tuesday, who knows! Should any cool forumers live in a place called Selly Oak, I shall be there this weekend, wooo! I gotta start packing my shit up now though...*goes to make tea instead*

Sounds to me like the perfect setup for the ultimate N-E meet...an N-Europe Road Trip! Woooooooo!

I'm guessing you don't know anyone in london who could put you up then? If I wasn't in my parents' house, I'd probably have offered to put you up myself considering it's only for 2 nights! Looks like the most viable option will be a hostel like people've suggested, but I don't know much about hostels in london(as there's generally no need for me lol).

Is there any particular reason why PDZ is apparently so bad? I've bought it, but not actually played it at all...

Ok, things seem to be getting a bit heated, I know some people highly disagree with suicide etc and people who do it, but can we at least try and show some sensitivity towards the situation and people who are expressing their own thoughts on the matter? I should hope if there's one thing you will take from this thread, it's the fact that can be very very hard to understand or even begin to understand unless you have actually been there at any point. Very many kudos and congratulations to you if you haven't, you're a lucky and probably healthy individual who takes life the right way, but not everybody does everything like you do and so try not to hate them because you don't consider them as good as yourself. I'm directing this mainly at Jim, but also anyone else who shares the same opinion. I also highly disagree with the 99% figure, unless you can give me something to back that up, don't just pull numbers out of nowhere to try and emphasise your point. I'm actually quite surprised and sad to hear that, as I guess I've never really noticed it or seen it come through here on the forums(but it's also hardly a medium for knowing someone in great depth). Then again, I guess you might fall into the category of people who you never really expect it from. I think I might understand the feeling there, it isn't a case of wanting to die or wanting to live, it's just a case of not wanting to exist anymore, and indifference to life as it is. You could die there and then, and it wouldn't matter, you wouldn't care too much like. What I would like to know though, is how often do you feel like it? More importantly, how or when do you get out of feeling like it? What keeps you going, what brings you back up?

Those last few sound quite...err...fun.. I picked up a copy of Wall and Piece by Banksy the other day(quite literally picked up, it was in the office at work, ironically amongst the folders about procedures and policies) and I had a flick through, never known about Banksy before, but I found some of the art and the quotes really quite interesting. "A lot of mothers will do anything for their children, except let them be themselves."

It's not cheap because you're a riduclous young male driver who is FUCKING UP ALL THE ROADS OMGOMG YOUNG MAN IS GONNA KILL US ALL. And you have no no-claims because you've been a named driver, so they don't care for your driving experience much, I don't think. I don't know, it's what I've heard. But I was 20 when I passed and my own policy on a car even just 3rd party fire and theft was looking around £1300, I shortly stopped looking at driving as a truly viable option for anything. My serious advice would simply to be try the comparison sites, all of them, and hope you get lucky. Alternative is depending how much/when you drive, get one of those pay as you go insurance things. I remember MoneySavingExpert used to have a nice guide to insurance and trying all the comparison sites, might be worth a check. Just out of interest, who's currently giving you the cheapest quote?

Fanboys used to be awesome, but then it stopped updating for aaaages. As for the last panel, I thought it was Rugrats mixed with some other pop culture reference I was missing, but meh. That trouser thing was awesome! The stop sign, back flip, swing and fence jumps all being totally brilliant. I'd love to have been there along the way as such an idea formulates and slowly comes together lol.

I think the problem IS that he is a rich kid. Now, I've never lived away from home, but I know of people who sound like the person you're talking about, and plenty of people who've lived with people like that. The problem with rich people, or people who are given too much monetary support by their parents for too long, is they never learn themselves the value of money or anything, then they don't understand what is wrong when they just take from other people. They're absolute cockbags, and the only way to do anything is to make them feel like the shittest person ever and just to bring them right down, or at least that is what I would do. Get everyone in your house together, have a word, and be a bastard until he cleans his act up. Yeah, it's fucking harsh, but it's the only way he'll learn. The one thing money can't buy you is being liked or approval(well, it can to an extent, but shhh!). Don't do it if he could give back as good as he gets though, or if you don't get the rest of your housemates to do it too. When you first approach, be calm and sensible, explain the problem and ask for the money, give him two chances, then proceed with bastardisation! Haggis, were it me(well no, I'd never wear a blue cardigan, or cardigans full stop) I'd suggest a white t-shirt with the blue cardy, it's a classic and it works. I can't see you going wrong with it at all, though maybe I'd say a pastel yellow if you're fair haired(as a better alternative, white'd still work). I say this like I'm fashion inclined, I'm not, but I reckon it'd work.

Lol, I thought you might like it. It struck me as being right up your street, I couldn't resist posting. I think there's a more up to date version, I should have it on a comp somewhere, but there's no major differences I don't think, just little things. Apparently there's a filmed scene out there somwhere, I;m going to try and find out who has it/what happened to it. (Also, major apologies for totally derailing this thread)

Haha, Bungie Buddies IS pretty awesome yes. Warioware on the whole is genius from the bits I've played. The dancing one is pretty hilarious too lol. There's one damn good reason the Wii is good, it's fun. Anyway, I didn't mean to come in here and say the Wii is bad(sure I have my own gripes with it, but I DID offer my positives and I DO understand why people like it). I just feel justifying it as good because of who made it is silly(now I think, is it the essence of fanboy?), and this isn't something limited to just the Wii, consoles, or games. It's like liking a person just because you know who their brother or father is(or sister or mother, not sexist here!). Someone mentioned generations of Nintendo consoles, I'd point to the N64 and ask people to name me the best games from it(unbiased people with no knowledge of this discussion), I'd be willing to bet at least 50% of the list will be comprised of Rare games. Where are Rare now? Do people rant and rave about the games they're making now like they used to? I mean, they must be excellent games right, cos they're made by Rare! I also realise though, the name isn't being used solely as a justification, but more a sort of...I dunno, reference point? Saying that they still DO make great games. I guess my difference is also that I've lost some faith in the brand, and don't think as highly of it as I used to(I believe Nintendo are capable of much more from my past expeirence, so now I feel dissappointed). I wasn't meaning to be negative as I said, I just thought it a silly way to justify a console. I bought the Wii on the basis it was a Nintendo console, a decision I now think somewhat silly as it has left me less impressed than I expected it to. This is not to say the Wii is bad though. It's a case of either relative, or abosolutes. For some positives to balance my post; Two of the things I do like most about the Wii are backwards compatibility and VC as it means not having to dig out old consoles to play those games again, and also obtaining gems from the past that I may not have got to experience(such as Mario RPG, the fact the Wii can now bring it to a European market is awesome). I think it's also good that it appeals to a wider market and is somewhat more friendly than the other consoles, it appeals to more people, it can be experienced by alot more people. However, I guess some of the reasons given aren't of much benefit to me, that's all.

A rather loose looking statistic you pulled out at the end there. Other than that, your entire post was quite enlightening. From what I've said of Suicide, I spoke from myself and personal feelings recently(and oh how foolish they seem now that I'm out), I also speak from what I hear, from people I know personally who have felt it/tried it/have other problems and depression, and from a also semi-experienced point of view(I wondered what your semi-professional experience was LukeLee) of having spent the last two years working part time in an acute psychiatric ward as a HCA, which is a totally unqualified position, so I'm not claiming to be professional or an authority, merely speaking from personal experience. I understand that sometimes suicide IS attention seeking in a way that it's a cry for help, a way to show the world because you're not quite sure how else to do so, but sometimes it's also used by repeat offenders, as it were, to get what they want. It's how they've learnt to be, they've gotten stuck into the bad cycle, and the only person who can help them is themselves after a while. It's a very complicated matter, and psychiatric 'illness' has a very wide and varied part to play, I often think unipolar depressives have a much different pattern of suicide compared to bipolar affective sufferers(indeed, I think Bipolar is much more widespread than it seems, and I think alot of these people who seem 'not like that' and suddenly appear to commit suicide may suffer from some element of it). It's a very complicated issue, I'm looking at it now from a much less personal point of view as my frame of mind is moving further and further away from it, and I have alot of thoughts but I haven't considered them quite enough to finish this post, so I'll leave it here til I think more.

Congratulations to you! I passed mine in December and haven't driven since, why? Cos insurance, cars and fuel are too damn expensive. Still, an awesome feeling knowing you're officially capable of driving a car

I believe it's safe to say you just have beef, though we used to talk about quashing beef. I don't know why. I realise this is totally off topic, but decided as it was a bit of bible bashing(of the gooder sense) I'd whack up something awesome I read ages ago, basically some guys DID rewrite some of the Jesus story, but in more a comedy play sort of way. http://www.geocities.com/thepissingoffthechrist/ (Yeah it's a geocities site, they wrote it yonks ago now, but it's hilarious!)

Haha, what a creationist loser! I see he tried to explain and justify on the next page that 'the sun doesn't count' with a really flimsy reason. That is so shoddy yet brilliant at the same time. I like alot of quotes about procrastination, cos I'm such a procrastinator. I've got some slightly amazing things done whilst procrastinating(things I would never have done otherwise) and I find the first quote incredibly fitting. I sometimes think I could probably rule the world if it wasn't what I was supposed to be doing. "Anyone can do any amount of work provided it isn't the work he's supposed to be doing at the moment." "Procrastination is like masturbation, It's fun until you realize you just fucked yourself". "If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done."

Because it's a terrible reason to justify a console. It's like being a celebrity just for being a celebrity. Nintendo's first consoles, and anyone's for that matter, were good for what they were, not who made them. If something is being justified as good by who made it, and not what it IS, then I do not see that is a very good or sound reason. What if Nintendo just make a crap console, then another, then keep on making them, will the fact it's Nintendo really be good enough? I feel I'm not articulating my point well enough, but I just think it's a terrible reason for why the Wii is great, it also means it'd be less great were it made by someone else, surely? Tell me something about the Wii, not that name stamped on the front. (I guess it's worth pointing out as it'll probably get brought up, I was dissappointed with what I saw of both Zelda and Mario on Wii, two of the defining 'Nintendo' franchises. I haven't played MP3 though, but that's cos MP2 just let me down compared to the first)