RoadKill Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 I'd like to point out that science already has a lot of proof on how the universe was created. So the theory of god creating the universe seems a like a fantasy story to me tbh. Personally i don't believe in god, or a certain higher force. I believe in cold hard facts, science, math, the laws of physics and evolution. Man that makes me horny, you rock. This man is correct everyone.
Monopolyman Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 I'd like to point out that science already has a lot of proof on how the universe was created. So the theory of god creating the universe seems a like a fantasy story to me tbh. Personally i don't believe in god, or a certain higher force. I believe in cold hard facts, science, math, the laws of physics and evolution. Not trying to influence anyone or anything, but there is a small idea about that that does make sense. Basically, you could say how the universe was created, but you could then go on to ask what caused that to create the universe, and then go on to ask what caused that to cause the the thing that created the universe, and so on until you come to an uncauseable cause, many say is God. I learned that in R.E., its something to do with science and religion living together or something.
Blackfox Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 You can't prove your disprove your ideas. Its down to faith at the end of the day. So we are all winners.
thecreepingmess Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 You can't prove your disprove your ideas. Its down to faith at the end of the day. So we are all winners. Well, you can. The whole basis of science is that things can be measured and tested. There's no faith involved.
Alterego Posted September 26, 2005 Author Posted September 26, 2005 i lernt about that in RE to monopolyman! :P Take The quiz yourself!
Mr. Bananagrabber Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 There is, I prayed to him that my download would start and it did! Seriously!
Cheapshot Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 To be honest I just don't know, there's no way to prove god exists or not - it's beyond our power. No matter how far Science advances they will never be able to be certain if it exists or not, I like to rely on certainties not speculation. I'd like to think we have our own personal gods with our consiences though. It's all just a big freakin' mystery.
Cheapshot Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 hey m8! http://www.face-pic.com/pages/view_pic.php?pic=6507523&user=ladyillius&pn=63&psid=1&id=242413&type=1&apic Alterego, don't spam -- and what's that picture about?
Alterego Posted September 26, 2005 Author Posted September 26, 2005 argg! my sister must of copied and pasterd some picture ! and i didnt reolise and pasted that damn her !!!!!!\ Take The quiz yourself!
Dieter Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 I mean, our word God is just a title that we've put on this vast unknown. 'God' is like saying 'so's your face', it works as an answer for pretty much anything. URMUM .
tendosgirlfriend Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 I personally think God was just a creation to stop our fears about life and death. I don't actually believe that he exists. I think Jesus might of existed, but I don't think he did anything signifigant. And no way did mary get pregnant while still being a virgin.
Shorty Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 I hope there is a god, I don't want to die and be nowhere and nothing. It's too miserable an idea.
Alterego Posted September 26, 2005 Author Posted September 26, 2005 yeah thats a good point! :shock: Take The quiz yourself!
RoadKill Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 I personally think God was just a creation to stop our fears about life and death. I don't actually believe that he exists. I think Jesus might of existed, but I don't think he did anything signifigant. And no way did mary get pregnant while still being a virgin. Ahh... you are awesome. (Except it's "Jesus might HAVE existed", but no matter).
thecreepingmess Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 I hope there is a god, I don't want to die and be nowhere and nothing. It's too miserable an idea. Is it? I doubt it bothered you much before you were born; so I doubt it will bother you much when you're dead.
RATM_4_EVA Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 Is it? I doubt it bothered you much before you were born; so I doubt it will bother you much when you're dead. good point :wink:
Shorty Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 Is it? I doubt it bothered you much before you were born; so I doubt it will bother you much when you're dead. There's a difference between never having existed and a future not existing. Prior to existing I hadn't had a consiousness with which to fear the unknown, and even once born life consisted merely of human instinct and learning. Now we're at the stage where our head is full of theorising and what-ifs. Not only that but prior to being born, the future involved life. After death, the future involving nothing means an end, not a beginning.
thecreepingmess Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 There's a difference between never having existed and a future not existing. Prior to existing I hadn't had a consiousness with which to fear the unknown, and even once born life consisted merely of human instinct and learning. Now we're at the stage where our head is full of theorising and what-ifs. Not only that but prior to being born, the future involved life. After death, the future involving nothing means an end, not a beginning. The future, as it now and before we were born, is a state of transience. We are never nothing; just something else.
Gaijin von Snikbah Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 But youre dead, so how can you tell? :p
Alterego Posted September 27, 2005 Author Posted September 27, 2005 The question of afterlife has been asked for years, and will probably be asked for years to come! it will most likely never be proven! Who believs in afterlife here? i dont know what i believe in! im one of those unsure people Take The quiz yourself!
Mr_Odwin Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 Science - the way we can prove there is no god. Go on then. As Blackfox stated there is no way to prove or disprove the existence of God with science. We can have theological discussions but there is no solid evidence, which, I believe, is what science requires. Anyone that is an atheist is merely a faithful follower of their own ideas and not a believer in science. Agnosticism is what they should adhere to. Who believs in afterlife here? I do, and I believe that I can be with those that I love too.
thecreepingmess Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 Go on then. As Blackfox stated there is no way to prove or disprove the existence of God with science. We can have theological discussions but there is no solid evidence, which, I believe, is what science requires. It's difficult for science to prove the existence of something that doesn't exist, by virtue that IT DOESN'T EXIST. The burden of proof is on the believer; not the skeptic. I do, and I believe that I can be with those that I love too. Awww... isn't that cute. Fortunately you will be with the ones you love: In the ground. Dead. Decomposing into compost.
Mr_Odwin Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 It's difficult for science to prove the existence of something that doesn't exist, by virtue that IT DOESN'T EXIST. The burden of proof is on the believer; not the skeptic. You believe that God doesn't exist. You too are a believer, so the burden lies on you. Awww... isn't that cute. Do not patronise me.
thecreepingmess Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 You believe that God doesn't exist. You too are a believer, so the burden lies on you. I'm happy to consider the concept of a heavenly being known as 'God' once there is some credible evidence. Unfortunately the evidence is as elusive as a ghost on Most Haunted.
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