The fish Posted April 23, 2006 Author Posted April 23, 2006 I was open minded once, but my school has made me hate organsied religion. The only half-decent one is Buddhism, because it's like "yeah, what ever." Another point for the Christians. Well said.
Blackfox Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Why hate orgainsied religion, it provides help to millions. Its just the bad press that we see on TV - why? Becuase it sells papers and creates viewing figures to show a suicide bombing rather than a church helping the community or a religion helping someone leave a life of crime or drugs.
The fish Posted April 23, 2006 Author Posted April 23, 2006 Hey the fish, I'm a big fat Christian fundamentalist, who won't hear a word of your evolution bollocks. Fucking lynch me. Ok. Pass me the rope, if you really want to me. Fundamentalists are the worst (look at Ahmadinejad or Bush), along with Bible bashers . The rest are tolerable.
Arragaun Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Oh my God fish, are you really so stupid as to let all that I've said fly over your head? I support evolution and Darwin. I am not a Christian. Do not lynch me. I've merely been highlighting how zealously someone can support something that they know so little about. You've helped me immensely.
Blackfox Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Anyway - this thread is about St George's Day. Keep it on track yo'. Create a different thread or something.
Haver Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 On Morgan Spurlock's 30 Days, in which he and his girlfriend attempt to get by on the minimum wage, he manages to get furniture for his ant-ridden flat (which is above a crackden) and clothes and blankets from a Christian-run thrift store. That is a service they provide, for free, on their own time. That's just an amazing thing.
MunKy Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Why hate orgainsied religion, it provides help to millions. Its just the bad press that we see on TV - why? Becuase it sells papers and creates viewing figures to show a suicide bombing rather than a church helping the community or a religion helping someone leave a life of crime or drugs. True but alot of the time the people who reform through religion become bible quoting hypocrites. I dont know about Fish but my hatred for organized religion comes from my hatred of being lied to. Apart from that OR kills more people than it saves, even before TV brought it into the spotlight. And the atrocities done in the name of "god" today are tame compared to the old days. I would go deeper into my hatred but the semi final is on soon and I cant be bothered to type that much.
Haver Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Well, I think this discussion highlights our inability to take on a national identity and thus celebrate a national holiday. And it's because we're so goddamn intolerant. Toleration is something to celebrate.
Fields Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Shit, totally forgot about St. George's day until I saw this. :shock:
The fish Posted April 23, 2006 Author Posted April 23, 2006 Oh my God fish, are you really so stupid as to let all that I've said fly over your head? I support evolution and Darwin. I am not a Christian. Do not lynch me. I've merely been highlighting how zealously someone can support something that they know so little about. You've helped me immensely. Sorry, but I really do hate fundamentalists and people who run organised religions. Other than that, most people are ok. Apart from bible bashers. and the guy who owns Mc Donald's. I hate organised religion for the same reason as MunKy: killing people "in the name of God", constantly lying and attempting to disallow change.
Blackfox Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Haha, why hate it? Just tolerate it - different folks/different strokes. If someone likes something then let them.
Haver Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 The qualms you have with religion are all perpetrated at the hands of fundamentalists who, as you point out, you have a significant distaste for. But fundamentalists do not speak for the entire Christian community.
The fish Posted April 23, 2006 Author Posted April 23, 2006 I tolerate them. It's just, for the most part, fundermentalists don't tolerate me.
The3rdChildren Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 I think this thread needs it's name changed to HAPPY ST. GEORGE'S DAY/RELIGIOUS DEBATE!.
Arragaun Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Sorry, but I really do hate fundamentalists and people who run organised religions. Other than that, most people are ok.Apart from bible bashers. and the guy who owns Mc Donald's. I hate organised religion for the same reason as MunKy: killing people "in the name of God", constantly lying and attempting to disallow change. Listen, change the record mate. We all know that religion is "holding us back" and is a "blight on society" blah blah blah. But the fact is, it's not gonna be deconstructed through simple hatred like what you are spouting at the moment. It'll fall apart of its own accord eventually, just give it time. And in that time, find some sort of inner peace and, like Haver said, tolerance for your fellow humans.
mario114 Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Why hate orgainsied religion, it provides help to millions. Its just the bad press that we see on TV - why? Becuase it sells papers and creates viewing figures to show a suicide bombing rather than a church helping the community or a religion helping someone leave a life of crime or drugs. Very true, you just have to look at all the aid orgaisations which help so many people in third world countries, many of which are christain based or started. Back to the topic, did you know the st. george flag was brought over to the UK from some horrid french guy (not saying that french are horrid, but this guy was, he didn't care about England but I think he was the King at some point, or something like that).
Mr_Odwin Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 When I was at church today they had the Union Jack displayed, which I guess was technically not correct. If you harbour hatred against organised religion you're really only hurting yourself and wasting energy so you should try and move on.
The fish Posted April 23, 2006 Author Posted April 23, 2006 I waste no energy doing it. I only do it when people have ago at me or say something really really stupid.
Haden Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 The fish just chill out. I am a christian and study history at uni. Its obvious that through history organised religion has done a lot of shameful things that actually condriditc the core messages of christianity of not casting the first stone and loving your neighbour etc. But a lot of good has been done in the name of religion aslo, like Wilberforce helping slave trading become illegal and the growth of literacy in the early modern period. Anyway st george yay!
Meik Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 I'm a follower of CubeChristianity. All it entails is blagging as much free stuff as possible. It's a pretty cool religion.
The3rdChildren Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 I'm a follower of CubeChristianity. All it entails is blagging as much free stuff as possible. It's a pretty cool religion. Can I join? My moon religion isn't working out too well. People stopped buying it when I told them how we believe Jesus Christ came to earth on a meteorite to preach Moon God's message of eternal lunar paradise beyond the grave.
Platty Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 Well i had a good day out while you lot were discussing this religion hoo har. Started at 1pm and finished at 5am, ive just got up, ah what a good day. There were some other blokes doing the same pub crawl as us, however they were all dressed as Knights and one of them as a dragon, everytime they walked into a new pub everyone clapped and cheered, it was nice to see others making the effort. Ive seen on the news that guy that has run well walked the marathon dressed as St George. He has only made it as far as Woolwich which is done the road from where i live, brave guy, good luck to him i hope he finishes. Today im just gonna relax after a heavy weekend of drinkage, ive just taken my St Georges cross flags down (all 4 of them) from my windows but they shall go back up for the world cup
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