Sonic238 Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 ... or the other way round: HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray Discs i did a little research because i was interested which format did his homeworks better. i stumbled across some threads in the forum and got to some interesting reads. i will list some differences between the two formats before i pose my question to you. HD-DVD: less expensive than Blu-Ray due to the same fabricating method that today's DVDs use sizes: 15 GB Single Layer, 30 GB Dual Layer there are no hd-dvd-rws (stupid acronyms!) better protected from scratches because the layer is thicker Blu-Ray: more expensive sizes: 25 GB Single / 50 GB Dual Layer there are Blu-Ray RWs the layer is not 0.6mm thin but 0.1mm the whole thing can be read here: http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/ now my question: which format do you think will establish itself? which format do you prefer? your comments on this? EDiT: i forgot to include this link to another topic: http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
Konfucius Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 I hope HD-DVD wins, after all it plays also standard DVDs and that's an important reason for me. Also I guess Windows will magically only support HD-DVD until the courts decide against it, but no RW support could harm HD a lot, since most people want to record movies and such.
Pestneb Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 HD-DVD. if only because sony + copy protection = rubbish. I think HD-DVD will be the accepted data storage for computers. Blu-ray may have an edge as far as video goes sadly. looking at the companies creating the formats, I would say Sony's involvement in Blu-Ray makes it the least consumer friendly, as one of their primary goals is to protect content produced by Sony content providers, regardless of the effect it has on the consumer. looking at the recent sony CD rootkit issue, I wouldn't trust blu-ray.
Mr_Odwin Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 I hope HD-DVD wins, after all it plays also standard DVDs and that's an important reason for me. Also I guess Windows will magically only support HD-DVD until the courts decide against it, but no RW support could harm HD a lot, since most people want to record movies and such. I think RW support has been announced for hd dvd. Or at least a quick google search suggests that it has. The difference in space for the two formats doesn't matter so much with the use of new video codecs either, although obviously, more is always nicer. I think I lean slightly towards hd dvd over bd because I've read that bd will have more restrictive copy protection schemes and initiallly will be more expensive to produce than hd dvd. And with Microsoft supporting hd dvd I can imagine that will give it a fairly large boost, with there being loads of people that'll have Vista.
Sonic238 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Posted January 23, 2006 as i read on, a worst scenario could be: blu-ray for movies and hd-dvd for data on computers, plus incompatible. apple supports blu-ray, so the gap between mac and pcs opens up again. bah. this su**s
Bogbas Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 HD-DVD will win but the blu ray would be better. Blu ray will probably fail because of sony's greediness. (Beta vs VHS anyone?)
Sonic238 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Posted January 23, 2006 betamax lost because the pr0n industry used vhs... now they are betting on blu-ray. at least they said so (i think).
faz99 Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 Look at the majorly accepted sony memory stick, like everyone uses it. EVERYONE.
Sonic238 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Posted January 23, 2006 Look at the majorly accepted sony memory stick, like everyone uses it. EVERYONE. lol i digg it
Bogbas Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 betamax lost because the pr0n industry used vhs... now they are betting on blu-ray. at least they said so (i think). I got my info from here read the first paragraph in "the legacy of betamax"
Sonic238 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Posted January 23, 2006 ah, thanks, didn't know that. is sony really that stupid to make the same mistake again?
Konfucius Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 betamax lost because the pr0n industry used vhs But that won't matter that much now, because teh pr0n is now on teh net and on teh portable harddrive
AshMat Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 HD-DVD I'ev heard that if youm put Blur Rays into a system then you can't play it in anything else. But that's probably a rumour. Also, sicne when have sony made a succesful media format. Except UMD which only took off because they are needed for psp.
Jon Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 The difference for sony now compared to the betamax era is that amount of companies that back blu ray. I believe Blu ray will win, simply down to the fact that so many big comapanies support it. Toshiba and Microsoft are HD-DVD's biggest supporters. Blu Ray has Sony, Apple, Phililps, Panasonic, LG, JVC, Samsung, Hitachi, Pioneer, Sharpe etc.
RoadKill Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 I like HD-DVD better. Plus, check this shit out: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060122-6027.html Nasty sounding huh? Both next gen formats could tumble into the pit of shitty formats if abused like this.
Pit-Jr Posted January 23, 2006 Posted January 23, 2006 The Blu-ray group and the HD-DVD camp are starting to release stand-alone players that cost as much as $1,800. Neither of these are gonna take off anytime soon
Jon Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 So we can add that to the PS3's price :p NO, that is a RECODER not a player, which is what the PS3 will have.
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