Pokémon Sun/Moon

[Glen-i]

so if I do go for this guy then some sort of gaming bandit or pirate combined with a lizard would probably suit him.

 

Ever played Donkey Kong Country 2? Literally features pirate crocodiles as the villains. You'd be spoilt for name choices there!

 

Will be interesting to see what type of stats this guy gets. If he has over 500 in his inal form then he could be a force to be reckoned with.

 

Awww... It's nice to have dreams. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that Arceus levels of stat totals? Because if so, never gonna happen.

 

EDIT: Oh wait, 600 is what I was thinking of, never mind then. Here's hoping for 500 then.

 

Seeing posts like ^ remind me how little I know about the real inner-workings of Pokémon, just like I do with mortgages.

 

I just pick ones that look nice...

 

Good on you! That's how Pokemon should be played. I don't care if Amoongus is considered great in battles, it looks crap and boring and crap.

 

I'll keep using my Grumpig for years to come!

Edited July 7, 2016 by Glen-i
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[Falcon_BlizZACK]

Leaning towards naming my Sun/Moon team all after video game characters or developers, so if I do go for this guy then some sort of gaming bandit or pirate combined with a lizard would probably suit him.

 

Will be interesting to see what type of stats this guy gets. If he has over 500 in his inal form then he could be a force to be reckoned with. Oh yeah, and he is 4x resistant to Fairy type moves, so that could see him quite viable. Unfortunately he's 4x weak to Ground.

 

I can take the ground weakness for all the positives this Pokémon will have, plus you can air balloon it or focus sash.

 

I don't think actual poison moves will affect steel types, just that the status effect can be inflicted ie Toxic/poisonpowder.

[Falcon_BlizZACK]

Leaning towards naming my Sun/Moon team all after video game characters or developers, so if I do go for this guy then some sort of gaming bandit or pirate combined with a lizard would probably suit him.

 

Will be interesting to see what type of stats this guy gets. If he has over 500 in his inal form then he could be a force to be reckoned with. Oh yeah, and he is 4x resistant to Fairy type moves, so that could see him quite viable. Unfortunately he's 4x weak to Ground.

 

I can take the ground weakness for all the positives this Pokémon will have, plus you can air balloon it or focus sash.

 

I don't think actual poison moves will affect steel types, just that the status effect can be inflicted ie Toxic/poisonpowder.

[Agent Gibbs]

Not very boney, but Giratina says "Hi!"

 

i should have specified a non legendary one

[Agent Gibbs]

Not very boney, but Giratina says "Hi!"

 

i should have specified a non legendary one

[Julius]

I'm going to make a fairly bold prediction for this pair of games.

 

I genuinely think they are in with a shot of selling over 18 million copies, which would make them the third highest selling pair of main series Pokémon games.

 

And the reason why I think this? Pokémon Go has blown up, and if we see this attention stick around deep into August, heads will quickly turn to the next instalments in the main series, especially after finding out that it's the 20th Anniversary. Well, that and the fact that the instalment base is obviously larger than it was 2 years ago when ORAS were released...

[Julius]

I'm going to make a fairly bold prediction for this pair of games.

 

I genuinely think they are in with a shot of selling over 18 million copies, which would make them the third highest selling pair of main series Pokémon games.

 

And the reason why I think this? Pokémon Go has blown up, and if we see this attention stick around deep into August, heads will quickly turn to the next instalments in the main series, especially after finding out that it's the 20th Anniversary. Well, that and the fact that the instalment base is obviously larger than it was 2 years ago when ORAS were released...

[Aperson]

That's a fair shout. That said, I think the accessibility of mobile phones over the 3DS means that Pokemon Go is going to be a lot more accessible for others and I have heard of people who are interested in the newer Pokemon games but don't want to buy a 3DS just for them.

 

On another note, Some "leaked" pictures of the final starter evolutions (which might well just be very well made fakes) have been taken down off Google Image search and the internet in general en masse recently. They were posted a month ago but largely looked over because, hey, everyone posts Fake evolutions of the intial starters on the internet. It's curious therefore that these have been removed when others weren't.

 

Not saying they're legit by any means, but it's curious if a takedown notice was issued for Fake Mons, unless their design concept was very close to what the actual final evolutions are or whether they were actual leaked concept arts sheets from Game Freak. Worringly it's the only collection of Fakemons that imply that Litten's final form is a Fire/Fighting type, though the "dirty" aspect of the "concept art" also suggests Fire/Dark. Also suggests Popplio's final form might be based on a Siren. All simply speculation of course, no way of knowing if it's true or not until the game actually comes out.

[Aperson]

That's a fair shout. That said, I think the accessibility of mobile phones over the 3DS means that Pokemon Go is going to be a lot more accessible for others and I have heard of people who are interested in the newer Pokemon games but don't want to buy a 3DS just for them.

 

On another note, Some "leaked" pictures of the final starter evolutions (which might well just be very well made fakes) have been taken down off Google Image search and the internet in general en masse recently. They were posted a month ago but largely looked over because, hey, everyone posts Fake evolutions of the intial starters on the internet. It's curious therefore that these have been removed when others weren't.

 

Not saying they're legit by any means, but it's curious if a takedown notice was issued for Fake Mons, unless their design concept was very close to what the actual final evolutions are or whether they were actual leaked concept arts sheets from Game Freak. Worringly it's the only collection of Fakemons that imply that Litten's final form is a Fire/Fighting type, though the "dirty" aspect of the "concept art" also suggests Fire/Dark. Also suggests Popplio's final form might be based on a Siren. All simply speculation of course, no way of knowing if it's true or not until the game actually comes out.

[Dcubed]

I'm going to make a fairly bold prediction for this pair of games.

 

I genuinely think they are in with a shot of selling over 18 million copies, which would make them the third highest selling pair of main series Pokémon games.

 

And the reason why I think this? Pokémon Go has blown up, and if we see this attention stick around deep into August, heads will quickly turn to the next instalments in the main series, especially after finding out that it's the 20th Anniversary. Well, that and the fact that the instalment base is obviously larger than it was 2 years ago when ORAS were released...

 

No chance. In fact, I reckon that Go is gonna hurt it big time. Why would a parent buy their kid a copy of Sun/Moon when they already have their "pokemans" on their phone for free?

 

It'll certainly be the worst selling game in the series. Probably will still break the 10 million mark though.

 

Sun & Moon may even be the last traditional Pokemon game ever made, at least as a traditional boxed product without featuring hefty microtransactions...

[Dcubed]

I'm going to make a fairly bold prediction for this pair of games.

 

I genuinely think they are in with a shot of selling over 18 million copies, which would make them the third highest selling pair of main series Pokémon games.

 

And the reason why I think this? Pokémon Go has blown up, and if we see this attention stick around deep into August, heads will quickly turn to the next instalments in the main series, especially after finding out that it's the 20th Anniversary. Well, that and the fact that the instalment base is obviously larger than it was 2 years ago when ORAS were released...

 

No chance. In fact, I reckon that Go is gonna hurt it big time. Why would a parent buy their kid a copy of Sun/Moon when they already have their "pokemans" on their phone for free?

 

It'll certainly be the worst selling game in the series. Probably will still break the 10 million mark though.

 

Sun & Moon may even be the last traditional Pokemon game ever made, at least as a traditional boxed product without featuring hefty microtransactions...

[Glen-i]

I'm going to make a fairly bold prediction for this pair of games.

 

I genuinely think they are in with a shot of selling over 18 million copies, which would make them the third highest selling pair of main series Pokémon games.

 

And the reason why I think this? Pokémon Go has blown up, and if we see this attention stick around deep into August, heads will quickly turn to the next instalments in the main series, especially after finding out that it's the 20th Anniversary. Well, that and the fact that the instalment base is obviously larger than it was 2 years ago when ORAS were released...

 

Call me pessimistic, but I think the majority of the people who got GO are too cheap to actually pay for a proper Pokemon game. Especially if they don't have a 3DS.

Most people who want to play Sun/Moon are already committed to buying it anyway. I don't think GO will make that much of a change.

 

No chance. In fact, I reckon that Go is gonna hurt it big time. Why would a parent buy their kid a copy of Sun/Moon when they already have their "pokemans" on their phone for free?

 

Hah! Great minds think alike, huh?

 

Sun & Moon may even be the last traditional Pokemon game ever made, at least as a traditional boxed product without featuring hefty microtransactions...

 

Don't even joke about that! Game Freak have gotta have something good going for them! No matter how boring ORAS is, at least it hasn't stooped that low!

[Glen-i]

I'm going to make a fairly bold prediction for this pair of games.

 

I genuinely think they are in with a shot of selling over 18 million copies, which would make them the third highest selling pair of main series Pokémon games.

 

And the reason why I think this? Pokémon Go has blown up, and if we see this attention stick around deep into August, heads will quickly turn to the next instalments in the main series, especially after finding out that it's the 20th Anniversary. Well, that and the fact that the instalment base is obviously larger than it was 2 years ago when ORAS were released...

 

Call me pessimistic, but I think the majority of the people who got GO are too cheap to actually pay for a proper Pokemon game. Especially if they don't have a 3DS.

Most people who want to play Sun/Moon are already committed to buying it anyway. I don't think GO will make that much of a change.

 

No chance. In fact, I reckon that Go is gonna hurt it big time. Why would a parent buy their kid a copy of Sun/Moon when they already have their "pokemans" on their phone for free?

 

Hah! Great minds think alike, huh?

 

Sun & Moon may even be the last traditional Pokemon game ever made, at least as a traditional boxed product without featuring hefty microtransactions...

 

Don't even joke about that! Game Freak have gotta have something good going for them! No matter how boring ORAS is, at least it hasn't stooped that low!

[Ashley]

I don't think it would harm any sales from kids that would pester there parents to buy Sun/Moon. Let's face it, pester power is strong and this is out in time for Christmas.

 

The wisest thing Nintendo could do would be to link the two things.

[Ashley]

I don't think it would harm any sales from kids that would pester there parents to buy Sun/Moon. Let's face it, pester power is strong and this is out in time for Christmas.

 

The wisest thing Nintendo could do would be to link the two things.

[khilafah]

No chance. In fact, I reckon that Go is gonna hurt it big time. Why would a parent buy their kid a copy of Sun/Moon when they already have their "pokemans" on their phone for free?

 

It'll certainly be the worst selling game in the series. Probably will still break the 10 million mark though.

 

Sun & Moon may even be the last traditional Pokemon game ever made, at least as a traditional boxed product without featuring hefty microtransactions...

 

Nah I can't see the drop off being that big. How much did theal last game sell. 15m right?

 

5m people who are invested in a fully fleshed out Pokemon game are not gonna abandon it for something as basic as Pokémon Go.

 

Parents will still buy Pokémon for there kids who will want it. Kids are persistent!

[khilafah]

No chance. In fact, I reckon that Go is gonna hurt it big time. Why would a parent buy their kid a copy of Sun/Moon when they already have their "pokemans" on their phone for free?

 

It'll certainly be the worst selling game in the series. Probably will still break the 10 million mark though.

 

Sun & Moon may even be the last traditional Pokemon game ever made, at least as a traditional boxed product without featuring hefty microtransactions...

 

Nah I can't see the drop off being that big. How much did theal last game sell. 15m right?

 

5m people who are invested in a fully fleshed out Pokemon game are not gonna abandon it for something as basic as Pokémon Go.

 

Parents will still buy Pokémon for there kids who will want it. Kids are persistent!

[Julius]

No chance. In fact, I reckon that Go is gonna hurt it big time. Why would a parent buy their kid a copy of Sun/Moon when they already have their "pokemans" on their phone for free?

 

It'll certainly be the worst selling game in the series. Probably will still break the 10 million mark though.

 

No chance? Really? This could be one of the greatest advertising (without advertising) feats in recent gaming history. Have you seen the download stats for the app in the US alone? They're bonkers. And, as I said, it depends on if the app does so well going deep into August. Let's face it: no app considered a gaming app has garnered massive attention for longer than a month at a time (Flappy Bird et al).

 

As for being the worst selling game in the series? If you mean all in all, then there's no chance of it getting anywhere near as low as SMD's 1.22 million units sold (which is great for a spinoff by all means); if by that you mean main series game, then you're in for a shock too, no doubt, as they'll surely pass Emerald's 6.32 million units sold too. And if we're looking at trends? Taking remakes, third versions and sequels out of the equation, we're looking at about a 1/1.5 million dropoff between the opening pair of games in each generation, and even that might not be a fair comparison considering how much larger the install base for the 3DS is now compared to the release of X and Y, as well as it being the 20th Anniversary and a massive app which will by no means damage sales of Pokémon Sun and Moon.

 

because, let's face it, if anything's stopping parents buying the games for their children it will be December's Star Wars movie and merchandise onslaught for Rogue One, not a Pokémon app

[Julius]

No chance. In fact, I reckon that Go is gonna hurt it big time. Why would a parent buy their kid a copy of Sun/Moon when they already have their "pokemans" on their phone for free?

 

It'll certainly be the worst selling game in the series. Probably will still break the 10 million mark though.

 

No chance? Really? This could be one of the greatest advertising (without advertising) feats in recent gaming history. Have you seen the download stats for the app in the US alone? They're bonkers. And, as I said, it depends on if the app does so well going deep into August. Let's face it: no app considered a gaming app has garnered massive attention for longer than a month at a time (Flappy Bird et al).

 

As for being the worst selling game in the series? If you mean all in all, then there's no chance of it getting anywhere near as low as SMD's 1.22 million units sold (which is great for a spinoff by all means); if by that you mean main series game, then you're in for a shock too, no doubt, as they'll surely pass Emerald's 6.32 million units sold too. And if we're looking at trends? Taking remakes, third versions and sequels out of the equation, we're looking at about a 1/1.5 million dropoff between the opening pair of games in each generation, and even that might not be a fair comparison considering how much larger the install base for the 3DS is now compared to the release of X and Y, as well as it being the 20th Anniversary and a massive app which will by no means damage sales of Pokémon Sun and Moon.

 

because, let's face it, if anything's stopping parents buying the games for their children it will be December's Star Wars movie and merchandise onslaught for Rogue One, not a Pokémon app

[Ashley]

Let's face it: no app considered a gaming app has garnered massive attention for longer than a month at a time (Flappy Bird et al).

 

[Ashley]

Let's face it: no app considered a gaming app has garnered massive attention for longer than a month at a time (Flappy Bird et al).

 

[Julius]

 

I stand corrected.

[Julius]

 

I stand corrected.

[Dcubed]

No chance? Really? This could be one of the greatest advertising (without advertising) feats in recent gaming history. Have you seen the download stats for the app in the US alone? They're bonkers. And, as I said, it depends on if the app does so well going deep into August. Let's face it: no app considered a gaming app has garnered massive attention for longer than a month at a time (Flappy Bird et al).

 

As for being the worst selling game in the series? If you mean all in all, then there's no chance of it getting anywhere near as low as SMD's 1.22 million units sold (which is great for a spinoff by all means); if by that you mean main series game, then you're in for a shock too, no doubt, as they'll surely pass Emerald's 6.32 million units sold too. And if we're looking at trends? Taking remakes, third versions and sequels out of the equation, we're looking at about a 1/1.5 million dropoff between the opening pair of games in each generation, and even that might not be a fair comparison considering how much larger the install base for the 3DS is now compared to the release of X and Y, as well as it being the 20th Anniversary and a massive app which will by no means damage sales of Pokémon Sun and Moon.

 

because, let's face it, if anything's stopping parents buying the games for their children it will be December's Star Wars movie and merchandise onslaught for Rogue One, not a Pokémon app

 

When I say worst selling in the series, I mean the mainline games obviously :p (and not third versions like Emerald either). So the low point is currently X/Y at 14.70 million (that actually ended up having some pretty good legs in the end. It managed to crawl its way back up to just 900k behind B/W after a disappointing start). I expect a drop of at least 1.5 million (anywhere between that and 3.5 million). Not just because of the damage done by Go, but also because the 3DS is really on its last legs and is just about to get replaced by the NX handheld (something that stunted B/W as well), which will have been unveiled by then as well.

 

Glen-i is right. People are super stingy and cheap those days. I would be very surprised if they manage to convert many people over at all. Mobile users have just been too far conditioned to expect something for nothing and they're far more likely to give their phones to their kids to play with than splash out for an expensive game on a platform that they probably don't own.

Edited July 11, 2016 by Dcubed

[Dcubed]

No chance? Really? This could be one of the greatest advertising (without advertising) feats in recent gaming history. Have you seen the download stats for the app in the US alone? They're bonkers. And, as I said, it depends on if the app does so well going deep into August. Let's face it: no app considered a gaming app has garnered massive attention for longer than a month at a time (Flappy Bird et al).

 

As for being the worst selling game in the series? If you mean all in all, then there's no chance of it getting anywhere near as low as SMD's 1.22 million units sold (which is great for a spinoff by all means); if by that you mean main series game, then you're in for a shock too, no doubt, as they'll surely pass Emerald's 6.32 million units sold too. And if we're looking at trends? Taking remakes, third versions and sequels out of the equation, we're looking at about a 1/1.5 million dropoff between the opening pair of games in each generation, and even that might not be a fair comparison considering how much larger the install base for the 3DS is now compared to the release of X and Y, as well as it being the 20th Anniversary and a massive app which will by no means damage sales of Pokémon Sun and Moon.

 

because, let's face it, if anything's stopping parents buying the games for their children it will be December's Star Wars movie and merchandise onslaught for Rogue One, not a Pokémon app

 

When I say worst selling in the series, I mean the mainline games obviously :p (and not third versions like Emerald either). So the low point is currently X/Y at 14.70 million (that actually ended up having some pretty good legs in the end. It managed to crawl its way back up to just 900k behind B/W after a disappointing start). I expect a drop of at least 1.5 million (anywhere between that and 3.5 million). Not just because of the damage done by Go, but also because the 3DS is really on its last legs and is just about to get replaced by the NX handheld (something that stunted B/W as well), which will have been unveiled by then as well.

 

Glen-i is right. People are super stingy and cheap those days. I would be very surprised if they manage to convert many people over at all. Mobile users have just been too far conditioned to expect something for nothing and they're far more likely to give their phones to their kids to play with than splash out for an expensive game on a platform that they probably don't own.

Edited July 11, 2016 by Dcubed