Yvonne Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 I'm essentially trading my life for giving my partner, and failing that, your team, the best shot at winning possible. It's inevitable that you would later turn on me I play optimally, I don't play dirty. Even my threat is optimal. If you want to win you should also play optimally.
Rummy Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 You're winning is not in line with my winning. I have to assume all you've said it true, but I'm not sure. I'd rather just kill you now tbh. We probably won't secure a lynch on you, but I keep my vote - especially in my anticipated absence.
Yvonne Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Of course I'll get lynched, there are tons of people who would benefit from it, two of which have double votes. Today and tonight my winning IS in line with your winning, which means for today, you can trust me 100%. You'll see this is where your team threw away any chance at a win in the endgame. (also btw note how we are arguing in a civil manner? Take note dear readers)
Rummy Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Lol on the latter point of civility. However, it may not be sensible, it may not be rational, it may not be optimum - but I want to lynch you. I have only my vote, it's insignificant in some ways, but it's mine to cast as I see fit - I shall do so. We can shake hands now but you can stab me in the back later - and I also understand that two lesser mafias is better than one larger mafia - but my interest is town and we are weak. I must take the mafia as and when I can, to pick up the slack later. I'd like my other townies to feel the same, but they might not - however if we go with you and two of us die tonight it's a huge loss. If we at least kill you now, well...I have a feeling it means we might survive tonight. (it's a lol not because of us btw, but because it's kinda true)
Yvonne Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Win the battle and lose the war. As long as you admit it isn't sensible rational or optimum, I accept death gladly.
DuD Posted March 24, 2013 Author Posted March 24, 2013 Vote update: Rummy (1) : EEVILMURRAY. Yvonne (3) : Herioicjanitor, Rummy, Diageo. Jimbob (3) : Cube, Yvonne. Magnus Peterson (1) : Magnus Peterson Majority is 6.
Yvonne Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 LOL Peeps stole your vote Rummy. I'm so glad I spent all that time trying to convince you to ally with me! Fuck @Magnus Peterson you've seen my argument. What say you
Diageo Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Just in case it wasn't clear. I am ice. This game is interesting. It's more of a game than just trying to convince people you're good.
Magnus Peterson Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 @Rummy, yes I am town. @Yvonne. I don't trust you. Even if you seem to be talking sense, I credit you with enough ability to make it seem that way even when you're lying. You are too skilled a player for me to trust. I can see you doing as you say, then pulling out some unknown to destroy the town later. I am happier with you dead, to be honest. Also, I can't get involved with 'optimal' playing. Still being a relative noob to this here game, I rely on intuition more than I probably should. I am going to go with that intuituion here, though, and not listen to your spiel.
Yvonne Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Oh well! @DuD I did my best to play the way you'd have wanted! See y'all in Valhalla. Bedtime now.
Nintendohnut Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 If we lynch Yvonne and there are three night kills tonight the game will probably be over tomorrow. If the fire or ice mafia survive the night without any deaths but there are three deaths elsewhere, they'll have majority. We need to lynch a member of either the fire or ice mafia if we want to actually have a chance of winning. It's not 'optimal playing', it's just maths. How is everyone ignoring this?!
Rummy Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 'We'? Who is your 'we' Dohnut, according to Yvonne not everyone can be town in this. I'd also wonder...if my vote was stolen then where did he put it!
Nintendohnut Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 'We'? Who is your 'we' Dohnut, according to Yvonne not everyone can be town in this. I'd also wonder...if my vote was stolen then where did he put it! We don't know how it was used. He might have taken it for himself or given it to someone else. Are you still ignoring the rest of my point though? Are you just ignoring the fact that voting the wrong way could end the game? I am also wondering why you are going for Yvonne when there are two other mafia members who have come out in the thread? Heroic has admitted he is mafia with a double vote, while Diageo has come out and said he is a member of the ice mafia. Why are we trying to get rid of all members of one team - that's simply playing into the hands of the other two! The fire mafia still has four votes with heroics double, and I assume the same can be said of the ice mafia. Instead of trying to decrease the advantage they have over the town and the water mafia, people are voting of a member of the water mafia to make two strong mafias, a very weak mafia and a weakened town? To me, cube is making the most sense. We should now concentrate on weakening the other two mafia teams to the same level as the water mafia. I'd be more willing to vote for Diageo, Jimbob or heroic than Yvonne.
Magnus Peterson Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Can't tell if sensible... ...Or classic Mafia tactic?
Cube Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Are you still ignoring the rest of my point though? Are you just ignoring the fact that voting the wrong way could end the game? There needs to be at least 5 more deaths for the game to end.
Rummy Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 We don't know how it was used. He might have taken it for himself or given it to someone else. Are you still ignoring the rest of my point though? Are you just ignoring the fact that voting the wrong way could end the game? I am also wondering why you are going for Yvonne when there are two other mafia members who have come out in the thread? Heroic has admitted he is mafia with a double vote, while Diageo has come out and said he is a member of the ice mafia. Why are we trying to get rid of all members of one team - that's simply playing into the hands of the other two! The fire mafia still has four votes with heroics double, and I assume the same can be said of the ice mafia. Instead of trying to decrease the advantage they have over the town and the water mafia, people are voting of a member of the water mafia to make two strong mafias, a very weak mafia and a weakened town? To me, cube is making the most sense. We should now concentrate on weakening the other two mafia teams to the same level as the water mafia. I'd be more willing to vote for Diageo, Jimbob or heroic than Yvonne. Funny you talk about ignoring; you didn't answer my question. Who is your 'we', what's your affiliation? As for the rest of it, my vote is now irrelevant. I'll leave it where it is in case anything comes of it, but it's rather pointless trying to convince me to vote any way - I don't have a vote. This day is almost pointless for me.
Yvonne Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 There's nothing classic about this mafia. The tactics are all different. Cube and Dohnut are right and should vote @Jimbob, at least until he comes out with some info
Magnus Peterson Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I sure would like to hear what people were up to last night... @Jon Dedede @Jimbob @Diageo Sorry if you've already mentioned; I've been working night shifts and well, I don't really care for reading back right now. And you @EEVILMURRAY
Cube Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I sure would like to hear what people were up to last night... Jon Dedede Jimbob Diageo EEVILMURRAY Jon Dedede is probably the Ice Mafia's double voter. He tried to kill someone on night 1 but failed for some reason. Jimbob...no idea. Diageo was roleblocked by me, and I used his power on Marcamillian (which was a kill). EEVIL, from his vote he's not the double poster. So he either killed last night or he has a kill tonight.
Cube Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Tonight does not look good. We managed to stop three kills on night 1. Plus, the mafia have good rival mafia targets tonight.
Mr-Paul Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I'm with Rummy's reasoning here, to be honest. If we get rid of Yvonne today, both other double voters should die tonight, and town are in a better position in terms of having influence in the day tomorrow. Whoever Yvonne's team mate is, it isn't clever to revenge kill a townie, it would benefit them more to go for another mafia. Vote: Yvonne
Jimbob Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Whats this occuring now. Information on what i did last night, i did nothing. I was attempting to reach Mr-Paul last night but was unsuccesul due to being blocked. So havn't got any information to add. And Vote: Yvonne
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