Yvonne Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 ok first snippet of analysis: I think mighty wind is some kind of wizard of oz storm, that can swap targets. I think Diageo may have been swapped for someone else, which explains why the goal of Aqui1a's action remained. I think there may be a lot of wind types. Maybe its even cumulative - the more weather that shows up in the same place, the more wild the over all effects? It's a plausible mechanic. So far I have no reason to think Aqui1a is mafia. Sorry, analysis is taking a while! More to come. When's deadline? Aqui1a alignment: leaning town weather: claim wind role: claim redirect status: alive targets: N1 claim DuD to UNKNOWN. Claimed hailstorm prevented this N2 claim Diageo to DuD. Claim unknown target to DuD votes: D1 no lynch D3 Diageo contribution: D1 no lynch D2 claims targeted by hailstorm, or that target was protected by hailstorm. Didn't reach target. Asks Diageo to specify what froze him. Claims target N1 was DuD D3 redirected by mighty wind, don't know target. Asks DuD about last night (N2) Claims intended to target Diageo Must have been redirected to you? (Diageo) [i disagree] DuD, are you sure Diageo is just wind? DuD, I don't think Diageo is wind Claims wind. Regular, ordinary wind. Votes for Diageo Says PM specifies mighty wind Keeps vote on Diageo, wind is suspicious. Cube alignment: feeling neutral weather: unknown role: unknown status: alive targets: D1 unknown D2 Claims ReZourceman, claims prevented by mist. votes: D1 none D2 Diageo contribution: D1 none D2 vote Diageo based on Yvonne info, pressure. D3 Nothing to add, but paying attention to posts. Claiming a non information role (I think protector). Assumes ReZ is a cop and confirms this by claiming town. Essentially says, if ReZ tells the truth, I am not on team with Dohnut. At least one townie in the group ReZ Cube Dohnut. Denies being a power cop, explains above logic Asks ReZ to ignore Dohnut. Cube and Dohnut are not both scum. If scum in this three, it's either (Dohnut) or (Cube AND ReZ). Cube explains above logic, predicated on him being a trusted town. Insistent. Asks maddog why he asks about N1. EEVIL can't have roleblocked ReZ because Cube targetted ReZ but there was mist around him, preventing him from targeting. mystery solved (sarcastic? don't know)
Frag Grimes Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I was buffeted by a mighty wind on night 2, also.
EddieColeslaw Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 So many pages @___@ Discussion has moved on already, so I won't comment on Rez, etc. All the info I can give is: - I never got roleblocked any night. - If there are 3 (claimed) roleblockers, there could be 3 winds? I am not a roleblocker or a wind. Diageo, did something bad happen to you? You are very adamant about finding whoever's Wind.
The Peeps Posted April 17, 2012 Author Posted April 17, 2012 Votes: Nintendohnut (3): ReZourceman, Cube, Sméagol ReZourceman (2): EEVILMURRAY, Jimbob Diageo (1): Aqui1a Majority is 8 Phase will end at 10pm tonight.
Yvonne Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Diageo alignment: leaning town weather: claims wind role: unknown status: alive targets: D1 claims dohnut, but was frozen D2 claims self, but was redirected votes: D1 none D2 Rummy contribution: D1 none D2 I didn't target mr-paul, I targeted Nintendohnut, but was frozen in place. was not told what froze me Rummy confesses (joke vote?) more jokin' sarcasm! D3 big post: ReZ claims to be cop and investigate Cube and Dohnut. EEVIL claims to have roleblocked him N2, Rummy did on N1. How does he have any info? Is there evidence Rummy blocked ReZ? (Rummy is town, so they did not communicate co-ordinating a lie). Even if EEVIL is lying ReZ is still not a cop with 2 investigations. Smeagol claims investigator and says ReZ & Cube are town. Seems odd. If both are cops, at least 1 is wrong. Suspicious of Jimbob's suspicion of ReZ for coming out with info, knee jerk reaction. Asks aqui1a who he targeted N2 and who he got instead. what's the evidence that Rummy blocked ReZ? I was also redirected to an unknown by a gust of wind. Claims honest to DuD Insistent that he is wind. Claims not a redirect. You are wrong leonidas! I am plain, ordinary wind. think! Different powers. Some impenetrable stuff about wind and redirection. Not going to think too much about this right now. Was anyone else affected by wind? I also get redirected by mighty wind. I targeted myself, and you (aqui1a) targeted me. So, third wind? This wind redirects away from a target. Targeted Diageo and redirected both Diageo and aqui1a. Assumes mighty wind is mafia. Attack on aqui1a Targeted self, definitely not a redirector. DuD alignment: strong town weather: unknown role: weatherman status: alive targets: N1 claim Diageo N2 claim Yvonne votes: none contribution: D3 shows up, reads thread. Claims two random targets. big analysis: ReZ somewhat credible. Thinks Diageo is lying (suspects protector?) Did EEVIL roleblock Diageo N1? Seems to imply here that Diageo is a redirector. Claims N1 Diageo, N2 Yvonne. (I note here that I noticed nothing, so if this is true, not a violent role). Doesn't want to give up power. Probably an info role, reverse tracker? Would explain why didn't counter claim ReZ. People get active! Accepts EEVIL's story. Claims Diageo lied about strong wind redirection. Has info to prove otherwise. What could this be? DuD is a weather checker! This lends strength to his target claim, and he's dead right about me being "calm". High trust. I trust Diageo a little less now. wind! is yvonne calm? redirection impossible, names used confusion about wind puns! sleeping moar analysis
Cube Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 How do we know that EEVIL isn't the mafia roleblocker, though?
Sméagol Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Well, we don’t know. But judging from behaviour, I’d say EEVIL is town. Blindly going after ReZ while Dohnut would be an easier target if he was EEVIL was mafia. I prefer not to waste this day, but if we have to find out tonight, we will. If there’s no lynch, I’ll target Dohnut, so ReZ can target someone else. If I’m hindered, you know which power not to trust. (last thing was specifically aimed at redirectors)
ReZourceman Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I would rather you target someone else, and not reveal who it is. The mafia may have defences regardless of if Dohnut is or not, and they may try to skew your results.
Sméagol Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I think there’s a small chance that mafia can do anything else besides kill / roleblock / redirect me, if if it’s one of those 3, I’ll know (and then you’ll know). I think I’ll take my chances, but you never now, I may change my mind. Of course, I could randomise between Dohnut and EEVIL.
heroicjanitor Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 There is no point in saying who you're going to target, sure-fire way to screw up your results if either Dohnut or Eevil is mafia. Another thing, if we can have two revealed investigators then the third wind should come forward now. Not saying I believe there is a third wind, but if they don't reveal themselves as townie today I'm going to assume they're mafia if we find them.
Diageo Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I was buffeted by a mighty wind on night 2, also. Did you target me too?
Diageo Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 That pretty much confirms the third wind character. DuD alignment: strong town weather: unknown role: weatherman status: alive targets: N1 claim Diageo N2 claim Yvonne votes: none contribution: D3 shows up, reads thread. Claims two random targets. big analysis: ReZ somewhat credible. Thinks Diageo is lying (suspects protector?) Did EEVIL roleblock Diageo N1? Seems to imply here that Diageo is a redirector. Claims N1 Diageo, N2 Yvonne. (I note here that I noticed nothing, so if this is true, not a violent role). Doesn't want to give up power. Probably an info role, reverse tracker? Would explain why didn't counter claim ReZ. People get active! Accepts EEVIL's story. Claims Diageo lied about strong wind redirection. Has info to prove otherwise. What could this be? DuD is a weather checker! This lends strength to his target claim, and he's dead right about me being "calm". High trust. I trust Diageo a little less now. wind! is yvonne calm? redirection impossible, names used confusion about wind puns! sleeping moar analysis He claimed I lied because he knew I was wind and thought there was only one wind character. There is no other information. He found me to be wind and you to be calm. That's all the info he has. There's no reason to trust me less because of it. If anything, he's confirming that I am wind and adding credence to my claims.
Yvonne Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Yep, sounds good, I accept that correction. Carrying on analysis now. I reckon there aren't three winds. I reckon there are four. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi
ReZourceman Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 This is frustrating. There is plenty to have been discussed or to vote on whether it be me, Dohnut, EEVIL....and no one is slamming any votes down. Its all well and good Yvonne doing this analysis (regardless of his alignment) but if people aren't going to add their own speculation or voting. Yeesssh. Thanks to the few who are actually conversing, regularly.
Yvonne Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 EddieColeslaw alignment: feeling neutral weather: unknown role: unknown status: alive targets: N1 unknown, success N2 unknown, success votes: D1 none D2 no lynch contribution: D1 none D2 laugh at mr-paul too much vote changing! vote no lynch D3 Did not target Maddog N1 agrees with heroic, ReZ is probably bluffing So many pages! Has not been roleblocked yet. Suggests 3 winds.Claims not roleblocker or wind. Whats up Diageo, you seem eager to find wind! EEVILMURRAY alignment: clear town weather: suspect blizzard role: claim roleblocker status: alive targets: N1 corroborated Diageo N2 claim ReZourceman votes: N1 Frag Grimes... D3 ReZourceman contribution: N1 vote Frag Grimes chill out it's my night power poker face poker face D2 something cool D3 cold post a chilling notion? Is EEVIL only allowed to say things in relation to cold? Is he Mr Freeze? ReZ, claim! Attacks ReZ, says he couldn't be a cop, because he roleblocked. Claim roleblocker. Votes ReZ This post is key - he says he WAS SUCCESSFUL. As in was told he was. All successful townies will knowabout this PM, mafia probably do not. This is a strong town tell. As a matter of course, it can no longer be a town tell. Asks Sméagol for his reason to trust ReZ. Cop? ReZ was blocked both nights... It is surely a bluff! fighting his point, trusts his results confident in his power maybe weather conflicts? claims The Peeps sends a PM saying this. So, town & GM error or something else. I think town. Freddie! confirms targets again EEVIL is clearly town, I'm 98% sure. vote nintendohnut
The Peeps Posted April 17, 2012 Author Posted April 17, 2012 Votes: Nintendohnut (4): ReZourceman, Cube, Sméagol, Yvonne ReZourceman (2): EEVILMURRAY, Jimbob Diageo (1): Aqui1a Majority is 8 Phase will end at 10pm tonight.
ReZourceman Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Two more votes needed if no double voters. One hour left, I will be watching this page like a hawk and refreshing and noting people viewing and not voting. Regardless of Dohnut's alignment. heroicjanitor and DuD are currently viewing.
Yvonne Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Frag Grimes alignment: neutral. Quiet, but could be because n00b. If experienced, scummy. weather: unknown role: unknown status: alive targets: N1 unknown N2 claim Diageo, claim redirected (buffeted) votes: D2 no lynch, dohnut D3 Dohnut contribution: D2 no lynch vote dohnut (black dynamite reference) Could be beginner bandwagoning D3 claims buffeted by mighty wind N2 Claims targeted Diageo. So anyone targeting Diageo N2 was redirected away? D3 Votes Dohnut.
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