... Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 havent played elder scrolls, but oblivion wasn't that great. It's the same game, you know? Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.
Hellfire Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Yeah, there are 4 Elder scrolls so... yeah. I read it the other way around and it seemed you were saying the first person sword fighting in oblivion was good. My bad.
... Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 d it seemed you were saying the first person sword fighting in oblivion was good. My bad. That was Chris the Great. *points at him*
Hellfire Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 That was Chris the Great. *points at him* I know I know!
Chris the great Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 you were saying the first person sword fighting in oblivion was good. My bad. well, it worked pretty well didnt it? it may not have been overly deep, but combining sword and shield, the differnt types of charged attacks, some of the one on one sword fights i had were truly epic. still, youd have to do away with rolls and what have you in zelda, lest players feel very ill.
Hellfire Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 well, it worked pretty well didnt it? it may not have been overly deep, but combining sword and shield, the differnt types of charged attacks, some of the one on one sword fights i had were truly epic. still, youd have to do away with rolls and what have you in zelda, lest players feel very ill. It "worked" but there was nothing to it and it was incredibly dull. I can find nothing epic about, if 1st person swordfighting needs an example that's not it.
Chris the great Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 dissagee, fights could be dull as hell, especialy when opponenst were weak as fuck, but when facing a decent foe, it could be a very close fought thing, sometimes very good, though also rather good when stupidly outnumbered. though, as you say, most cases were very dull.
Hellfire Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Point is, I take any Zelda's fighting, hell, any good to awesome 3rd person er.. sword game over Oblivion's. Don't think it's anything special at all, asides from sometimes switching to bow and magic, but it's mostly a bother and nothing Zelda or other games don't already do better.
Diageo Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 I agree with hellfire there, other gamers do sword fighting much better
Grazza Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Personally, I think a Zelda fixed in 1st-person would take too much away from the series. Over-the-shoulder is a good idea, going into normal 3rd-person for rolls, beast riding and such, and 1st-person as usual for the bow & arrow and looking around.
Rummy Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 No. Just No. I will NOT buy a 1st person Zelda, because Link IS Zelda(well no, zelda is shiek as we all know, but you know what I mean). I want to have me a character model that I can see every minute that I play, I do not want first person swordfighting. Some weapons I can understand you need it(like the bow and arrow and boomerang) as they need a precise sort of aim(though you still had the option of not with z-targetting) but swordfighting is not a neccessity, and tbh, I want to be able to SEE my sword shitting the other dude up! It's half the fun! In sum; First person, No.
Grazza Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I agree, Rummy. Maybe I'm weird, but a huge part of Zelda is seeing the Hylian Shield on Link's back all the time. He's like a Ninja Turtle! This is why I wouldn't mind an over-the-shoulder viewpoint, as long as the camera still fitted in the shield. I do think the camera needs to closer to the action, but I also think that, in an action game, it's better to be able to see your character in the context of their environment, so you can dodge etc (and yes, I want the next Metroid to be 3rd-person/over-the-shoulder too!)
EEVILMURRAY Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 What we need to do is cut the bullshit and take it back to Link To The Past "graffix", solves all the problems. ¬_¬
Retro_Link Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 I'd rather the next Zelda improved on the adventuring/exploring elements [rather than the combat], as that's what makes for an epic Zelda quest IMO!
Tellyn Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 I'd rather the next Zelda improved on the adventuring/exploring elements [rather than the combat], as that's what makes for an epic Zelda quest IMO! Yep, a bit more story elements, adventuring and exploration. Add in cel-shading and you've got a formula for the greatest game of all time.
Guest Maase Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Cel-shading? HECK NO The graphics are good as they were in TP, maintain them that way
D_prOdigy Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Cel-shading? HECK NO The graphics are good as they were in TP, maintain them that way TP looks very nice, but I'd still rather take: over any day.
Guest Maase Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 You took the worst TP place with the best WW place to compare the graphics And TP still won
D_prOdigy Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 And there's me trying to have a non-subjective discussion. silly me
Tellyn Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 You took the worst TP place with the best WW place to compare the graphics And TP still won No. TP looks gorgeous, but Wind Waker is perfect. Even with HD consoles out now, it's the best looking game I've ever played.
spirited away Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Cel-shading without a shadow of a doubt - it has so much more character and vibrancy to it. Much more evocative, in my opinion.
Diageo Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 If they do cel-shading they won't have to spend as much memory and can have more actual content in the game.
darksnowman Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 I'll be content with whatever style they go with. Cel shading is obviously gorgeous but I definitely think that Twi Pri has absolutely sexual graphics too. Its win win, imo. I wouldn't say that either has the absolute best ever graphical style I'm yet to witness... that accolade goes to the all conquering DKC 3.
Tellyn Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 that accolade goes to the all conquering DKC 3. Your love of the halflings' leaf has clearly slowed your mind...
tapedeck Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 the absolute best ever graphical style I'm yet to witness... that accolade goes to the all conquering DKC 3. Seconded. It's still the future of ACM
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