Zechs Merquise Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 Actually I think GTA IV has outsold MK (combining sales obv). And are you counting wii play in that list? Interesting fact. The amount of money software generated in December 08 ALONE is more than the money it generated in 1998 throughout the WHOLE year. Mental. I think you'll find that Mario Kart Wii has sold more than GTAIV's combined sales! And it's easily sold more than either of the two versions have alone. And YES I am counting Wii Play, as it's still selling. You can't just discount it! It was Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy. And er, it's hard to tell who'll win out. Probs SMG as the new Halo thingy will kill Halo 3 sales. Yes, the argument was SMG VS Halo 3, and so far Halo 3 is still in lead, it's sold ~8.9m whilst SMG has sold ~7.9m. The gap has been narrowing all the time, whether SMG will go on to surpass Halo 3 is still up for debate.
Goron_3 Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 I think you'll find that Mario Kart Wii has sold more than GTAIV's combined sales! And it's easily sold more than either of the two versions have alone. And YES I am counting Wii Play, as it's still selling. You can't just discount it! Well I can discount it...It's a wiimote that comes bundled with a few minigames lol. If microsoft bundled a minigame or 2 with Xbox live arcade points, would you really go round counting them
Shino Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Well I can discount it...It's a wiimote that comes bundled with a few minigames lol. If microsoft bundled a minigame or 2 with Xbox live arcade points, would you really go round counting them People could buye the Wiimote cheaper alone but choose to buy it with WiiPlay, its a conscious choice for the game. Try selling Xbox live arcade points with a minigame that costs more than the points alone.
Zechs Merquise Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Well I can discount it...It's a wiimote that comes bundled with a few minigames lol. If microsoft bundled a minigame or 2 with Xbox live arcade points, would you really go round counting them What Dante said lol
dazzybee Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 ROck Band 2 shipped 150,000 units. Didn't it get released a few days before xmas? If so, that's some big sales. Loving the music genre, I'm very pleased to see the Wii seeing the strongest sales in these titles. I just wish the developers/publishers put as much DLC love in! Thought his will change very quickly!
Goron_3 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 What Dante said lol You're clearly forgetting how many Wii's are sold a month and how many of those will probably buy 2-3 extra controllers with them. Anyways I was working yesterday and we put about 30 Wii's through the till (this is at John Lewis mind) and sold about 20 Wii Fit's. Judging by the people buying I'm willing to garauntee that of those 30 Wii's, about 20 of them won't be played within a few months. Seriously most comments I get when i put a Wii through go along the lines of 'It'll be a bit of fun for a while' or with Wii fit it's usually like 'it'll keep the kids amused for a few minutes'. Argh i can't believe there are people rich enough to just buy the Wii and see it as a toy argh. We sell about 20-30 wii games aswell and if we EVER sell any of them it's just Mario Kart. I don't think the people we sell them to even care that you can buy other games.
Zechs Merquise Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 You're clearly forgetting how many Wii's are sold a month and how many of those will probably buy 2-3 extra controllers with them. Anyways I was working yesterday and we put about 30 Wii's through the till (this is at John Lewis mind) and sold about 20 Wii Fit's. Judging by the people buying I'm willing to garauntee that of those 30 Wii's, about 20 of them won't be played within a few months. Seriously most comments I get when i put a Wii through go along the lines of 'It'll be a bit of fun for a while' or with Wii fit it's usually like 'it'll keep the kids amused for a few minutes'. Argh i can't believe there are people rich enough to just buy the Wii and see it as a toy argh. We sell about 20-30 wii games aswell and if we EVER sell any of them it's just Mario Kart. I don't think the people we sell them to even care that you can buy other games. Yes, but the attach rates for the PS2 were low as well. Look, when ever you have a system that sells so well you're always going to have a much lower attach rate because people just buy the console for casual usage, which means a couple of games.
dazzybee Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 You're clearly forgetting how many Wii's are sold a month and how many of those will probably buy 2-3 extra controllers with them. Anyways I was working yesterday and we put about 30 Wii's through the till (this is at John Lewis mind) and sold about 20 Wii Fit's. Judging by the people buying I'm willing to garauntee that of those 30 Wii's, about 20 of them won't be played within a few months. Seriously most comments I get when i put a Wii through go along the lines of 'It'll be a bit of fun for a while' or with Wii fit it's usually like 'it'll keep the kids amused for a few minutes'. Argh i can't believe there are people rich enough to just buy the Wii and see it as a toy argh. We sell about 20-30 wii games aswell and if we EVER sell any of them it's just Mario Kart. I don't think the people we sell them to even care that you can buy other games. What is your point? You work at John Lewis for christ sake! Obviously the people who would buy a Wii there are not the typical gamer!!
Zechs Merquise Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 You're clearly forgetting how many Wii's are sold a month and how many of those will probably buy 2-3 extra controllers with them. Anyways I was working yesterday and we put about 30 Wii's through the till (this is at John Lewis mind) and sold about 20 Wii Fit's. Judging by the people buying I'm willing to garauntee that of those 30 Wii's, about 20 of them won't be played within a few months. Seriously most comments I get when i put a Wii through go along the lines of 'It'll be a bit of fun for a while' or with Wii fit it's usually like 'it'll keep the kids amused for a few minutes'. Argh i can't believe there are people rich enough to just buy the Wii and see it as a toy argh. We sell about 20-30 wii games aswell and if we EVER sell any of them it's just Mario Kart. I don't think the people we sell them to even care that you can buy other games. Oh and one other thing, how many PS3s did you shift?
Goron_3 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 What is your point? You work at John Lewis for christ sake! Obviously the people who would buy a Wii there are not the typical gamer!! My point is that it's amazing how so many people just buy the wii as an impulse buy, especially over christmas period when everyone was low on cash. I think it was the best selling thing after iPods obviously. I wasn't dissing the wii at all, i'm just saying how amazing it is how many you can shift. I manager to persuade a few couples onto buying it, was pretty easy. I do hate the 'expensive toy' comments it gets quite a lot though that said it's their loss. Sold A LOT of DS lites aswell actually, maybe around 20 all with copies of Brain Training. Oh and one other thing, how many PS3s did you shift? Because who shop at John Lewis are going to want PS3's because...? Erm maybe around 2-3. Put through a lot of 360's though, guessing they were arcades though because we're sold out of the Premium.
Shino Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Being an impulsive buy doesn't change anything, the same happened with all the consoles that lead previous generations. Hopefully some of those people and they're kids will grow up to be gamers.
Zechs Merquise Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Because who shop at John Lewis are going to want PS3's because...? Erm maybe around 2-3. Put through a lot of 360's though, guessing they were arcades though because we're sold out of the Premium. I've just looked at the attach rates for the best selling PS2 games compared to the best selling Wii games. As far as games like Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii are concerned the attach rates are much higher than that of the best selling PS2 software. The reason I asked about the PS3 sales was because I was wondering if the great PS3 comeback (as predicted by nerd and fanboys everywhere) had begun. Obviously not yet!
Goron_3 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 I've just looked at the attach rates for the best selling PS2 games compared to the best selling Wii games. As far as games like Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii are concerned the attach rates are much higher than that of the best selling PS2 software. The reason I asked about the PS3 sales was because I was wondering if the great PS3 comeback (as predicted by nerd and fanboys everywhere) had begun. Obviously not yet! hahahaha. Tbh though PS3 is still for early adopters, especially at that price. It's on the market atm simply to stop Microsoft from getting all the sales. PS3 will sell a bucketload, especially 2-3 years down the line when the price is right down. I mean lets face it, a $200-250 PS3 is a very tempting offer. Edit: Don't worry I'm not a PS3 fanboy btw Not really a fan of the console atm.
jammy2211 Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 I've just looked at the attach rates for the best selling PS2 games compared to the best selling Wii games. As far as games like Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii are concerned the attach rates are much higher than that of the best selling PS2 software. The reason I asked about the PS3 sales was because I was wondering if the great PS3 comeback (as predicted by nerd and fanboys everywhere) had begun. Obviously not yet! I think GTA III's attatch rate to Wii Fit / Mario Kart was similiar when it launched. It does seem odd comparing the top selling games, nor do I really see the point 0_o. PS2's attatch rate fall is generally more attributed to the pre-owned market, no one buys PS2 games first hand now and it was pretty much like that into it's later life cycle. Wii's not been heavily effected by this yet but it does pose some interesting problems for the consoles future years.
Fierce_LiNk Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 You're clearly forgetting how many Wii's are sold a month and how many of those will probably buy 2-3 extra controllers with them. Anyways I was working yesterday and we put about 30 Wii's through the till (this is at John Lewis mind) and sold about 20 Wii Fit's. Judging by the people buying I'm willing to garauntee that of those 30 Wii's, about 20 of them won't be played within a few months. Seriously most comments I get when i put a Wii through go along the lines of 'It'll be a bit of fun for a while' or with Wii fit it's usually like 'it'll keep the kids amused for a few minutes'. Argh i can't believe there are people rich enough to just buy the Wii and see it as a toy argh. We sell about 20-30 wii games aswell and if we EVER sell any of them it's just Mario Kart. I don't think the people we sell them to even care that you can buy other games. Maybe that's down to the availability of the console? Are Wii consoles still difficult to get hold of, so people are trying less obvious places? I dunno. But, just taking a look at the John Lewis website, and there's not really a great deal of choice there. If you're going to be making judgements on what games Wii Owners buy, you'll probably be best off looking at stores like GAME or Gamestation. Shop around, and you can get games for cheaper. That's what I do. Maybe other customers do that, too. Out of curiosity, what 360 or PS3 games were being sold?
Dante Posted January 18, 2009 Author Posted January 18, 2009 Sales Data Europe: DS: 88.23m Wii: 40.67m PSP: 38.84m 360: 23.90m PS3: 15.23m - 17.23m Canada + US: DS: 29.79m Wii: 19.03m PSP: 15.26m 360: 15.04m PS3: 7.52m Japan: DS: 55.24m PSP: 26.84m Wii: 26.67m 360: 15.90m PS3: 10.23m
Shino Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Hmmm, there's something wrong with those figures.
david.dakota Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 why? They seem number like. And within my expectations.
D_prOdigy Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Hmmm, there's something wrong with those figures. Indeed. I was going to suggest that maybe it's software, but it's this that's putting me way off: Japan:DS: 55.24m PSP: 26.84m Wii: 26.67m 360: 15.90m wtfage? PS3: 10.23m
dazzybee Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 I think it's just 15.9 consoles sold. The m was added by mistake
Will Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 I've just looked at the attach rates for the best selling PS2 games compared to the best selling Wii games. As far as games like Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii are concerned the attach rates are much higher than that of the best selling PS2 software. Based on a like-for-like period of time or just current figures? It isn't necessarily a good thing to have 1 or 2 games with high attach rates if it's to the detriment of other software. Looking at Dante's figures they don't add up at all, at a guess: European ones are some sort of software calculation, US are Hardware of some sort and I've no idea on the Japanese ones as I don't deal with that area. Where are the figures taken from?
Zechs Merquise Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Based on a like-for-like period of time or just current figures? It isn't necessarily a good thing to have 1 or 2 games with high attach rates if it's to the detriment of other software. Looking at Dante's figures they don't add up at all' date=' at a guess: European ones are some sort of software calculation, US are Hardware of some sort and I've no idea on the Japanese ones as I don't deal with that area. Where are the figures taken from?[/quote'] Well that's where you're wrong, the Wii has had 42 games sell over 1 million copies! The 360 has had 63 and the PS3 just 25. So really for a console with such mass market penetration that apparently no one plays after a week of owning it, software sales aren't too bad What's more, certain big franchises like Guitar Hero WT and Sonic Unleashed have sold better on the Wii than on the 360/PS3.
darksnowman Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Well that's where you're wrong, the Wii has had 42 games sell over 1 million copies! List wars are annoying, but I don't suppose you could list those 42 games? You've got me curious! Or even post a link to your source or something.
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