Owen Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 hey guys,I got a question from a friend about this game. Red steel 2 has a western/asian mix theme, but he's not sure if he's going to buy it. The main reason for that is the western theme is putting him off, in his early years he was forced to watch those cheap cheesy western movies. My question is, will he dig this game or will it put him off, in other words is the dialogue cheesy and does it has western cliché’s all over it? @Owen was that the thing why you werent excited about the game in the first place or not? I have no idea why i wasn't excited about it in the end...i think the couple of delays may have just stopped me caring about it..i'm pleased i bought it though, it's fun to play..thats all that matters! I wouldn't really say it's cheesy..style wise i would say thats the best thing about the game, it's very cool! Western Cliche's? well..does tumbleweed count? haha Dialogue can be ever so cheesy at times, yes...but not to the extent of being laughable. If your a wii owner, you'll be daft to miss this one out to be honest..i think if you get over the fact your literally going into arenas and fighting a number of enemies..then moving on..or switching a switch then fighting a number of enemies..then moving on... Perhaps my low expectations ended up helping!
marcel Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 I have no idea why i wasn't excited about it in the end...i think the couple of delays may have just stopped me caring about it..i'm pleased i bought it though, it's fun to play..thats all that matters! I wouldn't really say it's cheesy..style wise i would say thats the best thing about the game, it's very cool! Western Cliche's? well..does tumbleweed count? haha Dialogue can be ever so cheesy at times, yes...but not to the extent of being laughable. If your a wii owner, you'll be daft to miss this one out to be honest..i think if you get over the fact your literally going into arenas and fighting a number of enemies..then moving on..or switching a switch then fighting a number of enemies..then moving on... Perhaps my low expectations ended up helping! But its not like all the stages look like they come right out of a western movie. Its more like it borrows some things from the western genres (so no yeeehaaa, or fake western accents). ALSO: Also, In the US this game is selling pretty well. Some of the people of neogaf went to the shop this week and the game is rapidly selling out. Some retailers even say that the game might be the best selling 3rd party game to date.
Owen Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 But its not like all the stages look like they come right out of a western movie. Its more like it borrows some things from the western genres (so no yeeehaaa, or fake western accents). ALSO: Also, In the US this game is selling pretty well. Some of the people of neogaf went to the shop this week and the game is rapidly selling out. Some retailers even say that the game might be the best selling 3rd party game to date. Oh, so far definately no yeeehaaa's..and no fake western accents..not sure he'll be amazed with the overall voice-acting of some of the characters though! hmmmm, if it's advertised well, that doesn't surprise me.
marcel Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Oh, so far definately no yeeehaaa's..and no fake western accents..not sure he'll be amazed with the overall voice-acting of some of the characters though! hmmmm, if it's advertised well, that doesn't surprise me. Its getting good reviews, and on mayor sites i see banners of the game also the game got magazine ads in europe aswell as in the US. The US got a television commercial witch is really really cheasy, jjust like the commercial of the first game. It really feels to me that this game is a do or die game, If this game out of all the 3th party offerings isnt selling im willing to bet that we wont get red steel 3 or even another (ubisoft) core game. Not to be dramatic for any means, but the wii now has a sticker for "3th party games wont ever sell as good as the 1st party offerings" (not that all 3th party offerings are good, but silent hill shattered memories deserved better than 20 000 copies in 4 weeks in europe).
flameboy Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 well cancelled my preorder due to lack of funds so joins the lengthy list of to play games. some of the reviews make for good reading especially eurogamers.
marcel Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Well, after 2 hours in the game i did change it to "relax mode", i got cramps in my arm. Really hope that the next zelda will also feature a "relax mode" becose im not playing my games while standing, i sit on my bed:). Anyone else got the same problem after about 2 hours?
Acidyl Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 I'm still in doubt about getting this one. The setting really isn't my style, but the gameplay looks fun. Maybe I'll get it tomorrow; but there is so much other games I need to finish....
LostOverThere Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) well cancelled my preorder due to lack of funds so joins the lengthy list of to play games. some of the reviews make for good reading especially eurogamers. You're a terrible person. May you forever wear the cone of shame. Speaking of people who are attractive, apparently my copy is arriving on Tuesday. So Woo! Edited March 27, 2010 by LostOverThere
Guest Captain Falcon Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Don't know if it's been posted here (I had a quick look and couldn't see) but shopto have Red Steel 2 with Motion Plus for just £29.85 which seems pretty cheap to me.
welsh_gamer Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 My bundle from Amazon arrived this morning. Spent an hour with it, and it's very good. Great graphics and the controls work well, but parrying doesn't seem as accurate compared to Sports Resort. The quick-time battle on the truck was a great moment, hopefully there's more to come, too add some variety and give the arms a rest.
Owen Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Went in the all-formats chart at Number 34! Not good at all....I'm slightly concerned about 'mature' titles future on Wii...seriously, developers won't make em if no-one 'seems' to be buying them! This game deserved top 10 at least!
Ren of Heavens Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 #34 is a terrible debut. Pretty sad this wont sell nearly as much as the original.
D_prOdigy Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 developers won't make em if no-one 'seems' to be buying them! Consumers won't buy them if publishers push them put to market and act like they don't exist. Not one single advert in Europe. But we all knew that would be the case, right? This is nothing unexpected.
welsh_gamer Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Yikes! Even Madword, last March's hardcore title, peaked higher at number 28. Not one single advert in Europe. Didn't see any retailers advertising it in any of the weekend papers either.
Daft Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Not one single advert in Europe. But we all knew that would be the case, right? This is nothing unexpected. I saw an advert for it. Must have been prime time as well because that's the only time I watch TV. Was a good advert.
marcel Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Yikes! Even Madword, last March's hardcore title, peaked higher at number 28. Didn't see any retailers advertising it in any of the weekend papers either. you can all blame the lack of advertising, but i wouldt know if a tv commercial would accually work(look at madworld, it got a tv commercial and look how that ended up). Its a core game, and they tend to view reviews and game websites. Those websites have tons of red steel 2 advertising bars. Lets hope for the best, but if the US sales are dramasticly ore than the european ones than you ccould say something about advertising. But one thing is for sure, if this game doesnt sell than ubisoft will pull the plug on the core game market for wii and i would even disagree with them. If a port of a 4 year old game that is ported manny times can sell more than 1 million (yea im talking about re4 wii edition), than a new game in an already known brand would be capable of more than a million in lifetime sales.
LostOverThere Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Wasn't it released on Friday though? When does the official week end?
D_prOdigy Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 I saw an advert for it. Must have been prime time as well because that's the only time I watch TV. Was a good advert. More fool me then. Still, it's pretty clear no third party Wii titles these days get anywhere near the scale of marketing big-name PS3/360 titles do, except if Nintendo get behind them. A well-orchestrated marketing push would encapsulate television, print media and the publisher collaborating with retailers. One of the main reasons why God of War III did very, very well. Ubisoft will neglect Red Steel 2, get less-than-blockbuster sales for it and then blame the Wii audience for its performance and say that's the reason they aren't making any more games like it. A Cartesian circle of stupidity.
Hero-of-Time Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 It could have something to do with GoW being stupidly fantastic and being the 3rd in a successful series. Theres simply no real excuse for it now, the game was hyped up by every major gaming site, got great reviews and still gets outsold by the likes of Prison Break. In Ubisofts defense i've seen a couple of adverts and quite a few pics in the papers promoting the game. Core gamers knew this game was coming but it just looks like they don't care for these types of games on the Wii. MH3 better sell well or I won't be happy.
Dante Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Week 12, 2010 - Individual Formats 26 (__) PS3 Prison Break: The Conspiracy (Koch Media) 27 (__) 360 Prison Break: The Conspiracy (Koch Media) 33 (__) WII Red Steel 2 (Ubisoft) Prison Break beats Red Steel 2 and Just Dance has been staying in the top 5 for month now.
Owen Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Theres a hell of alot of 'mature' Wii owners...they just didn't buy this, did they? So something is up! Perhaps it was the delays?
Fierce_LiNk Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Mine came this morning with the MotionPlus+, so quite excited to play it later, but also have a little work to do, too. Why has this sold so ineffectively? Simple. Take a look at the Mario Galaxy 2 thread. People have spent a whole month arguing what they think the final boxart of the game will look like. In that time, Silent Hill and Red Steel 2 have both been released. Two very big third party games which clearly have had a lot of work put into them. If anything, this just fuels the notion that Nintendo gamers only really care about Nintendo's games. If the gamers actually stopped for a moment and paid some attention to these games which are getting criminally overlooked, then maybe all this stupid talk of the Wii lacking quality games would stop. Or, you can ignore all what I have said and wait for MARIOOOO ZELDAAA.
canand Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) I still haven got my order it was shipped on Thursday and now its Monday and I they shipped my Pokemon Case on Friday and I gt it today the game should be here before that. Edited March 29, 2010 by canand
STOOPIDDITTIES Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 Why has this sold so ineffectively? Simple. Take a look at the Mario Galaxy 2 thread. People have spent a whole month arguing what they think the final boxart of the game will look like. In that time, Silent Hill and Red Steel 2 have both been released. Two very big third party games which clearly have had a lot of work put into them. If anything, this just fuels the notion that Nintendo gamers only really care about Nintendo's games. If the gamers actually stopped for a moment and paid some attention to these games which are getting criminally overlooked, then maybe all this stupid talk of the Wii lacking quality games would stop. Or, you can ignore all what I have said and wait for MARIOOOO ZELDAAA. That comparison is ridiculous. Silent Hill has always been a fairly obscure title and has sold as many copies on Wii as it has on any other console. And of course gamers are going to be more excited about Mario Galaxy 2 than Red Steel 2, as good as the latter looks people were put off from being burned by the first game wheras the original Mario Galaxy was game of the year for a lot of people. And while basing a game on it's predecessor isn't really justified, that's just what happens and would happen on any other format. Maybe this shouldn't have been called Red Steel 2. But either way the general score for both the games you named has been 8-8.5/10 and as has been posted several times on these boards a lot of people just don't have the money for anything but the best. Gaming is an expensive hobby and the majority will flock to what is the best game rather than what console it's on. Does anyone have any actual numbers by the way? In all honesty though, even if someone only owns a Wii, do you really think anyone but the Nintendo gamers bought these titles? I don't see the same person who buys My Family Training getting swayed into purchasing a horror game. But at least it got into the Top 40.
canand Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) I hope my Red Steel 2 game from play.com comes tomorrw. Edited March 29, 2010 by canand
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