mcj metroid Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 http://press.ffii.org/Press_releases/European_Parliament_rushes_towards_Soviet_Internet European Parliament rushes towards Soviet Internet Brussels, 04 July 2008 -- Amendments to the European Telecommunications directive being rushed through the European Parliament propose a "Soviet internet" where software publishers and internet service providers watch traffic and data for Hollywood. Software and services that run on the internet would have to ask for permission of the regulators. Some amendments to the European Telecommunications directive allow administrative authorities in each Member State to define which are the authorised software applications for the internet. Parts of the directive should be implemented by the member states through requiring specific "technical features" in electronic communications networks. Live-analysis and filtering compose a pre-requisite for a "Soviet style" censorship environment. Several committees suggested massive changes to an over complex Commission proposal. The committee process was hijacked by vested interests. All amendments of at times questionable quality lack a legal impact analysis and sufficient examination. Immature propositions risk to create an administrative burden and stifle internet innovation. Overloaded and confused by hundreds of amendments the lobby sets MEPs under pressure to agree on a poor compromise before the summer break. All amendments need more thoughtful review so that a mature text may be presented to the plenary and MEPs fully understand what they cast their vote on in the committee. Benjamin Henrion, FFII representative in Brussels, rings the alarm bell: "Tomorrow, popular software applications like Skype or even Firefox might be declared illegal in Europe if they are not certified by an administrative authority. This is compromising the whole open development of the internet as we know it today. Once the Soviet Union required the registration of all typewriters and printing devices with the authorities." Privacy expert Ricardo Cristof Remmert-Fontes comments: "In Germany Deutsche Telekom is under fierce criticism for alleged spying on citizens and journalists. In Europe the amendments want to make spying a natural obligation for communications providers. The planned infrastructure of live-analysis and filtering can be used for mass-surveillance and censorship." FFII President Alberto Barrionuevo adds: "The agenda to establish a Chinese Internet Wall in Europe is set by few ultra-copyright lobbyists. FFII base many of its ideals on copyright laws, but I don't agree to justify their intentions to spy all us with the excuse of the protection of copyright. It sets a precedent for market control: Regulating large parts of Internet communication, provider contracts, software development and thus internet businesses. The proposed environment is threatening all European businesses which need protection from business espionage, and to be able to use secure virtual private networks (VPNs) all over the Internet. Are industrial secrets of our European companies and privacy of our citizens to be sacrificed just to preserve legacy business models of Hollywood?" The FFII therefore asks the Members of the European Parliament to take more time and reconsider thoughtfully the Telecommunications proposal as prepared for voting. Over 300 amendments and fundamental concerns on different issues, such as free speech, censorship, net neutrality and trade secrets should be reviewed with greater care. The debate on the European Telecommunications directives requires more reflection, if it should lead to a reliable and solid legal base what do you think of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The fish Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 All it will do is bring more bureaucracy, and more realisation than the internet doesn't really care what the governments of the world want to do to it - pretty much any barrier can be subject circumnavigation in one fashion or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Oh dear god, here we go again. I just want to say, how is it that corporate interests get defined as soviet? Edit: Oh! And in soviet internet, copyright steals you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanchez Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 The internet has to stay free or its going to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jordan Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I hate businesses, i hate governments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The fish Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I just want to say, how is it that corporate interests get defined as soviet? It' because you need permission to do pretty much anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimless Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Sounds like the work of the P— Of the P— The la-li-lu-le-lo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Everything is censored and controlled. Just look at the insidious newspapers that everyone laps up every day. I'd be more worried about the techniques they implement but we don't find out about though, but this is just another example of the world going to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted July 5, 2008 Author Share Posted July 5, 2008 do ye think it's something to be seriously worried about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I don't think its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I don't get it. (TL;DR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 do ye think it's something to be seriously worried about? Not really. They probably monitor most things on the internet anyway. Not to mention the censorship and control taking part in other industries from publishing and the arts to big media. You don't think G.W Bush got into office by his lonesome. The media not only actively discourage voting by prioritizing crap like Britney Spears but you only have to look at FOX's role during the election to see that they basically called it. If you want to see something really frightening, just look at Canwest in Canada. They have no regard for the public and have the government wrapped around their little finger. I don't think this internet thing is too likely to go through (it is way too unsubtle) but just look at the state/business/big media's control in the world , that is something to worry about and fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 If it's true then it is something to be worried about. The way things are going we are just gonna end up with cameras in every single place you can think of for 'our protection' Not really. They probably monitor most things on the internet anyway. Not to mention the censorship and control taking part in other industries from publishing and the arts to big media. You don't think G.W Bush got into office by his lonesome. The media not only actively discourage voting by prioritizing crap like Britney Spears but you only have to look at FOX's role during the election to see that they basically called it. If you want to see something really frightening, just look at Canwest in Canada. They have no regard for the public and have the government wrapped around their little finger. I don't think this internet thing is too likely to go through (it is way too unsubtle) but just look at the state/business/big media's control in the world , that is something to worry about and fear. The Sun is terrible for trying to control people's way of thinking. They are biased against everything. I still buy it everyday though. It's funny seeing what they come away with next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 The Sun is terrible for trying to control people's way of thinking. They are biased against everything. I still buy it everyday though. It's funny seeing what they come away with next. That would be Satan's mother himself, Rupert Murdoch's. He owns: Filmed Entertainment - News Corporation 20th Century Fox 20th Century Fox Espanol 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment 20th Century Fox International 20th Century Fox Television Blue Sky Studios Fox Searchlight Pictures Fox Studios Australia Fox Studios LA Fox Studios Baja Fox Television Studios Television - News Corporation Fox Broadcasting Company Fox Sports Australia Fox Television Stations FOXTEL STAR Cable Television owned by News Corporation Fox Movie Channel Fox News Channel Fox Sports Digital Fox Sports Enterprises Fox Sports Espanol Fox Sports Net Fox Sports World FUEL FX National Geographic Channel SPEED Channel Stats, Inc Direct Broadcast & Satellite Television - News Corporation BskyB DIRECTV FOXTEL Sky Italia Magazines - News Corporation Inside Out Donna Hay News America Marketing Smart Source The Weekly Standard Gemstar Newspapers - News Corporation Australasian region Newspapers: Daily Telegraph Fiji Times Gold Coast Bulletin Herald Sun Newsphotos Newspix Newstext NT News Post Courier Sunday Herald Sun Sunday Mail Sunday Tasmanian Sunday Territorian Sunday Times The Advertiser The Australian The Courier Mail The Mercury The Sunday Mail The Sunday Telegraph Weekly Times United Kingdom region Newspapers: News International News of the World The Sun The Sunday Times The Times Times Education Supplement Times Higher Education Supplement Times Literary Supplement TSL Education United States region Newspapers: New York Post Books - News Corporation Harper Collins Publishers - Australia - Canada - Childrens Books - United States - United Kingdom Regan Books Zondervan Other Investments - News Corporation MySpace.com Profile Festival Records Mushroom Records National Rugby League - Australia News Interactive News Outdoor Nursery World That is a frightening amount of influence, but many don't even bat an eyelid. His words: "I'm a catalyst for change … You can't be an outsider and be successful over 30 years without leaving a certain amount of scar tissue around the place." But this one takes the biscuit: "News.. communicating news and ideas, I guess.. is my passion. And giving people alternatives so that they have two papers to read and alternative television channels." Yeah, two alternatives from the same place. Makes me laugh with despair every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoy Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Since when is the internet the property of the European Union? How come they can regulate what I see without asking me? The bastards can f*ck right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Since when is the internet the property of the European Union? How come they can regulate what I see without asking me? The bastards can f*ck right off. Location: Shandong, China ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoy Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 ---- Not my country, i'm just visiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I know, I just thought it was funny you were swearing and ranting at the EU for blocking you, when you're currently in China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoy Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 It's because the Chinese block me here that I know how much of a pain in the ass it will be to have m*ther f*ckers blocking my internets back home. People who are for this legislation have no idea the pain in the ass it is to watch porn here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The fish Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I really think that governments and corporations should just leave the Web to go in it's own direction. It's Tim Berners-Lee's invention, so we should respect his wishes (if only as he technically has the legal power to pull the plug) and let it stay as it is - none of this government control, or two-tier internet, or god-damn Viacom having a tantrum and taking Google to the US Supreme Court over Youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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