Maiky-NiSuTe Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Dear o dear it seems my fellow Dutchmen do not like buying games.. they rather download it.. I find this sad very sad because it seems they forget that if they dont buy games the developers have less money to develop better games and the pirates get more money to get those chips out cheaper and easier.. well my opinion is that i will never NEVER download games! but what is your vision about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcollins Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 i have never done it, but to be honest i dont really have the time to be playing computer games all the time anyway. if i did and could be botherd to go to the effort to do it i probably would, cus gaming is still waaaay to expensive. not first party nintendo games though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iun Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 It's not physically possible to buy a Wii in China because Nintendo are so worried about piracy. The result? Retailes import consoles from Japan and America, chip them and sell pirated games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirtynine. Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Nintendo make it too easy, piracy on the gamecube was relatively difficult and akward on the wii it isnt, same with the DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapedeck Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Well considering it primarily involves a little soldering I'm partial to think chipping your Wii is a silly, silly idea. Add the fact that the updates have the potential to brick your system and it just makes it a hassle. I can understand why people are arsey about paying full price for games. I actually feel with Wii we've seen a lot of inflated software prices. And there should be more games priced £19.99 or below (I'm pointing at you EA). But piracy kills the industry, forces developers into administration and creates diversions amongst fellow gamers. Not good for any industry really. Saying that, I feel entertainment in general is massively overpriced and DVD's/Cinema tickets and Videogames all need to fall in price by a few pounds at least. However, as long as there are people out there who pay through the teeth for high street prices, pirates will always have their own little niche. Part of the problem (and thus solution) is the industry itself IMHO. Nintendo make it too easy, piracy on the gamecube was relatively difficult and akward on the wii it isnt, same with the DS. I still firmly believe that the success of the PS1 was down to the massive piracy issues it created. Were Sony clever choosing the CD format? I believe so. Maybe I'm cynical but Nintendo are far, far better at protecting their systems than both Sony and Microsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iun Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 But Nintendo also make it easier for people in countries where the Wii is not on general sale to say say "Ah, F*ck it, they don't care about us..." and then go out and buy a modded machine. I wanted to buy an American machine out here, but then found out that Nintendo would make it off-warranty, that games were as expensive in the West, when salaries are significantly lower in this region. Plus if I brought my Wii with me from England, Nintendo would have cast me down from Heaven and refused to repair it. So what was my choice? Take a stand against the pirates and adopt a holier-than-thou attitude? Or play the games I want to play, in the only way I can? Nintendo have no-one else but themselves to blame for people in this region buying pirated software, but in the West... well, retailers have to shoulder a lot of the blame for game prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 sure the games industry learned something from the PS1 because it was a huge sucses thanks to the ease of pirating it. but did Nintendo do this on purpose to get more people back to the Nintendo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iun Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 You're suggesting Nintendo made it easier to copy games in order that Nintendo could make more profit for themselves? Maiky, I love you sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 hehe uhm well yeah and no. >.< now i am confused ...lol well i hope you know what i meen when i say that it worked for sony with the ps1. ps thanks for loving me ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 it's too damn easy for ds and wii.. it's actually even easier for ds than even the gba.. Are nintendo even trying anymore? The only way they can stop it is if they have a virtual console but for wii games as well. I know it's impossible right now but i don't see any piracy of virtual console games around with the exceptions of their classic emulators..Maybe i;m wrong maybe there is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Its not that easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 the picture you shown us is a bit out dated i think because the mod chips i have seen are smaller and easier to insert. but i don't know for sure because i don't know mush of building it in your Wii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapedeck Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 the picture you shown us is a bit out dated i think because the mod chips i have seen are smaller and easier to insert. but i don't know for sure because i don't know mush of building it in your Wii. Indeed, I'm sure it's just a bit of soldering now. (So Iv'e heard!) Shino...That picture makes me crave strawberry laces. Mmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 this makes me think... lets say you buy a game why cant they make a extra download in the wii shop so you can activate it or something.. but than again the problem would be for those who don't have internet.. nope not that good idea after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I say anyone who downloads any pirated content should be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 well shot... no, heavily punished.. yes. just let them pay for every game they downloaded and don't own the original of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I'm a bit out of the loop, but I believe that's the latest chipset (GC2-D2C), and its the hardest one to mod, either with that modchip, or with a more recent one which still requires 13 cables on a very small points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 geezz well i hope there will come a Wii update that over heats all modded Wii's and burn the houses they stand in ^.- (the same goes for the 360 and ps3 mods to.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirtynine. Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I'm a bit out of the loop, but I believe that's the latest chipset (GC2-D2C), and its the hardest one to mod, either with that modchip, or with a more recent one which still requires 13 cables on a very small points. Yeah, it is. compare that to the xbox or GC modchips and its still easy. Also the dreamcast had NO copy protection just burn a cd and pop it in, it still failed. So the ps1 argument is flawed. geezz well i hope there will come a Wii update that over heats all modded Wii's and burn the houses they stand in ^.- (the same goes for the 360 and ps3 mods to.) 1. That would be illigal. 2. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Piracy isn't even that bad. If you would never have bought the game you download anyway, then I see no harm. I buy all of my games for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shino Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Yeah, it is. compare that to the xbox or GC modchips and its still easy. How can soldering 30+ cables to a small chip's legs can be as easy as 4 cables on cube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMat Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 So what? Piracy happens, always has and always will. Has it really sent any company down the shitter? Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Exactly. Piracy is a fucking myth. Companies are always exaggerating it's effects on the industry. Most people who pirate, wouldn't buy the game they got illegally anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Its not really a valid excuse for it though. I can't steal a nice car and get away with it under the argument "Well sorry but I wasn't going to buy it legally so its not really theft". At the end of the day publishers would make more money if the only way to obtain a game was through legal channels, piracy does effect the industry and you can't argue that certain parts of it are ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirtynine. Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 How can soldering 30+ cables to a small chip's legs can be as easy as 4 cables on cube? I thought the only way was with phantasy star online etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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