philcollins

again, missing the point. if zelda was created by an american team everything would fit just fine with the western voice acting. but it isnt, and there isnt a chance in hell a western voice actor is going to be able to voice a character like tingle and do a cringe worthy job of it. voice acting aint on the cards for zelda, and it shouldnt be.

fighting enemies is better, story is alot better, dungeons are better. town and sidequests is better or on par. overall the game is longer and feels less rushed. the art style of windwaker is probably the best in the series but skyward sword is more consistant. (windwaker does not have full lighting, only in some dungeons.) wind wakers got better music. i think people look at windwaker through rose tinted glasses just because its the best looking game and has awesome music. fail to see how SS is not a patch on windwaker. its better in most areas...

people seriously think this has changed the formula to much?? .... as i was playing it i was thinking how they NEED to really change things next time around or its just going to become to boring by then. SS feels like a great step in the right direction, but the next game really needs to change things up a bit more. SS kind of felt like it was testing the waters. not a fully fledged formula change by any means. but i cant say i am surprised that people are bum-hurt over losing a big field. the whole point of the games design was to take out that part of the game. if you cant move past that why bother even playing it.

seems like it was a big misunderstanding. if he did do what he said - work with younger developers and worked on smaller projects that are more interesting to him. isnt this the best news ever? wouldnt that mean miyamoto is gonna be making games that he wants pretty much headed by him?

i dont really think the point is the amount of effort put in. its just cultural differences. japanese treat voice acting as an art form, and alot of things about zelda, such as the humour, are really japanese anyway. so much charm is going to be lost. and replaced with very vanilla -but easier than reading text?- voice acting. maybe im just being picky for noticing the finer details of what makes a zelda game good? but i know that i would not be able to play through a western voice acted version of zelda.

people who want voice acting are missing a big point. the voices in the game now(which are amazing) are done by japanese. if the whole game was voice acted, the japanese version would be great! and i wouldn just end up listening to that, with subtitles. it would basicly be similar to how it is now. the english versions voice acting would be subpar, cringeworthy, and embaressing. its a fact clear as day.

^ 5th dungeon

alot seem to be complaining about backstorys of other games not being filled in. this is never gonna happen, this is just how nintendo do zelda games. they will have a few things link up (in ww you went down to hyrule, in tp gannon was sealed away and the temple of time) but for the most part they create the game in a timeline and then all the gameplay elements are pretty much created for the purpose of that game, not so they can fill in the blanks of later games that were made 10 years ago. that is just how nintendo have, and always will do things. besides do you really need little references to tell you stuff like 'here is where the gerudos started ' here is where the zoras started' it doesnt matter, they started somewhere, you can use your imagination.

agree with whats being said about the fetching.. that brings the game down a notch also, one of the dungeons is weak.

just finished it.. amazing game. the whole story parts for the last section really blew me away. loved the last bosses!! cant take the review seriously after this, in one of the first parts of it. "main character on equal ground with the hero Link himself. Perhaps beyond Link even, as she’s definitely the more fleshed-out of the two." link a mute with NO character. thats always been the whole point! hes also saying nintendo live in a bubble.. well i as a nintendo fan live in a bubble to cus they are one of the only game companys who make the games i wanna play to a standard high enough.

finished... what a game! i can go over to the spoiler thread now finally!

move it left to right qucikly, with the pace link walks.

just try to follow one of the guys arms.. i did it extremely sloppily and did it first time so i dont think it has to be very accurate.

i would say up to the point i am at.. you got nothin to complain about with the story. to be honest with you its blown me away in a way no other video game has, i just wanna finish it now.

5th dungeon boss is another awesome one.

you got some good points. music, SS cant match up to windwaker nor MM nor OOT, but it is better than TP. koji kondo not composing anything in it apart from 1 song is a big reason of that and also the zelda series has an incredibly high standard for music. i think judged by itself the SS music is actually really good bar a few weak tracks(the flying music sounds like a rip off of the back to tge future theme) visually i dont think any game will ever look as good as windwaker either, which is pretty sad considering how old it is. but ss is still very high visually and i think the charm of ss is better and alot more consistant than WW. WW was overall an empty, uneven and even unfinished feeling game all in an amazing looking visual style, with great music. SS is a more consistantly great overall package.

this game beats windwaker easily..

damn, im not having any troubles with it now.. my arm doesnt hurt anymore and i'd say ive got used to it to the point where its super easy and i wouldnt wanna go back and play an older zelda game.

the rest of the game bodes well im just enjoying it and happy to see what happens next. its all been fantastic and surprising so far. i actually liked the 3rd boss as that whole dungeon and the pre over-dungeon before it were a real slog for me. long and hard! so i was very happy to have a relatively easy and fun boss. and the stuff with the item was pretty clever i thought. i just done the 4th dungeon. i thought this one was quite straight forward and wasnt as hard as the previous ones.. not a complaint though, it was welcome as this game is harrd. the boss was super cool aswell, one of my fave bosses in any zelda for sure... the last part of it is just badass!!

i think this game is a bit of a grower, ive thought it was awesome since the beggining but it just seems to get better as you play through it. 3rd dungeon

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i dont know about anyone else here but after 2 days of playing this my right arm absaloutely cains!! even my forarm muscles are sore, i dont think theyve ever been sore before! im pretty happy with the controls now, taking out mobobkins is a piece of piss. ive started holding the controller in a different way, that seems to be easier and i can make sword swipes with less effort. ive got my fore figer on the A button so im kind of holding it like a mouse. much easier i think.

yea.. actually im not disapointed now the music has seemed to of gotten better! this game is awesome! i think there was just one characters music in particular that made me just have disapointed feelings. his music sounds VERY similar to this track from windwaker

after my pre ordered failiure i went and picked it up at asda earlier (was cheaper than the other shops) damn good to be playing zelda again! im in a bit of a dilemma though as i have FUCK loads of work to do.. but zelda seems to need legnthy gaming sessions. ive been playing for about 4 or 5 hours and ive only just got beneath the clouds.. also i think im the only one but im a little disapointed in the music spoilers???? none of its composed by koji kondo and my ears can tell.

i had this pre ordered from AMAZON. but something was wrong with the payment so i had to update it, and now delivery date is 21st.. order cancelled. i will just stroll into town and pick it up in the morning, like old times. the order wasnt even dispatched yet! yet a payment change adds 3 days to the delivery date. kind of defeats the point in preordering!