rokhed00 Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2007/1005-bungie.htm Kind of shits on the mac theory.
KKOB Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Great move for Bungie, they're popular and well known enough now to do they're own thing for a while. Then when it comes to finding a publisher, what publisher wouldn't jump at the chance of them doing another Halo-sized massive hit?!
Shino Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 I hope the Halo fad finally dies. How many games did bungie made since the release of xbox? 3? That's hardly enough, maybe Microsoft are the one with the right deal.
Bren Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 halo aint dieing for a long time, its gonna stick around as long as xbox does i reckon, much like mario with nintendo. Master Chief is the first video game character i think of when i think of an xbox, they would be stupid to let the franchise die.
triforce_keeper Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Please Lionhead leave Microsoft! I want Black & White on Wii dammit!
Choze Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Crazy news. This reminds me of Dreamcast. From 1st party to 3rd party... Not even Nintendo did that in their dark days. The Rare equivalent was more like Bizzare leaving. But this is huge. MCV have more detail: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/28462/Halo-3-creator-cuts-ties-with-Microsoft The fact they cut ties with MS is troublesome. MS still are their main publishing deal but who knows what the future holds.
Gizmo Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Crazy news. This reminds me of Dreamcast. From 1st party to 3rd party...Not even Nintendo did that in their dark days. The Rare equivalent was more like Bizzare leaving. But this is huge. MCV have more detail: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/28462/Halo-3-creator-cuts-ties-with-Microsoft The fact they cut ties with MS is troublesome. MS still are their main publishing deal but who knows what the future holds. They've hardly "cut ties".
Caris Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 I don't see the problem tbh. Microsoft still have the Halo games of them and well if they make other games i doubt they will be as good.
Tellyn Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Microsoft own the rights to the Halo franchise so they could just get another developer on that. I think it would be good to see them working on other projects though.
Caris Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 The way i see it, things won't change much for us. We will still get Bungie games on the 360, just we might see some things like Marathon on the DS and such. Quote from Bungie: Bungie has long been built on creativity, originality and the freedom to pursue ideas. Microsoft agreed, and rather than stifle our imagination, they decided it was in both our best interests to unleash it. We'll continue to make Xbox 360 games, and we'll continue to make amazing games for MGS. In that regard, nothing has changed. All that has changed is that now Bungie Studios is once again, the property of the folks of Bungie Studios. Microsoft is and will continue to be, a brilliant, inventive and creatively collaborative publishing partner. Practically speaking, nothing has changed and you guys won't see much, if any difference, for a while unless you come to work for us, that is - we're hiring at http://www.bungie.net/inside/jobs.aspx
Tellyn Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 I don't know much about the history of Bungie, what's Marathon Caris?
flameboy Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Microsoft are fucking morons. First Bizarre, now Bungie. Who else do they have left? Mistwalker, Rare, Team Ninja of Tecmo (well they have exclusive rights to all DoA games and thats all they make!). Microsoft, either you're leaving the console race, or you're going insane. They're making $16BN a quater, A QUATER. Its not like they don't have the money to keep these developers. I for one am getting extremely worried about the future of the 360 and I'm not the kinda person who worries about this kinda thing. EDIT: Looked into it. MGS developers left: ACES Game Studio Carbonated Games Ensemble Hired Gun Lionhead Rare Turn 10 Wingnut Interactive Massive Inc. Yeah but they have to also look at the way round of the ends justifying the means. I mean they could spend X million to keep these companies but then would these companies gurantee making that money back? They may be rich but aren't going to just throw money at things they do still want to try and turn over an actual profit rather than high gross profit then low net profit... Of all the companies leaving though wouldnt have expected Bungie?
Caris Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 I don't know much about the history of Bungie, what's Marathon Caris? Go on the arcade on download thr trial It's a fps from ages ago, around the time Doom first came out i think.
Choze Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Of all the companies leaving though wouldnt have expected Bungie? Exactly. Wonder what MS are upto? Peter Moore left. Bungie break ties and go independant. Bizzare have completely left. FASA closed down. Crazy stuff is happening at MS. Despite their penny pinching and rip off accessories and online they still will make around a billion loss this year! I am guessing this is the reason.
Tellyn Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Didn't the red lights alone cost them $1 billion?
Dilli Gee Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 What does this mean for Halo Wars, then? Nothing. Halo Wars isn't a Bungie title. I think people are over-reacting. Microsoft still owns Halo and all its entities. Any future Halo games are exclusive to Microsoft. And Bungie are still making games for Microsoft. The only difference is we'll see PS3 titles now. All Bungie have become is an indie developer, like Epic Games, who still have exclusive co-productions with Microsoft (Gears of War). So this is not a big deal. Personally, I'm actually in-different to it. Halo has "ended" so to speak, it's all about GoW2 and GoW3. And Microsoft still have some shares in Bungie too.
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted October 5, 2007 Author Posted October 5, 2007 i hope Bungie will produce loads of new and original games in the future!
Calza Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Theres nothing about PS3 titles, who knows Bungie games could still be just on 360. I would say though DS/Wii though.
Dilli Gee Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 They're already developing a new episodic trilogy of Halo games with Peter Jackson, and another secret project, so they need to get these projects done first (both are MGS games).
McPhee Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 It seems to be as much Microsoft's decision as it is Bungie's tbh. Bungie, like so many other MGS studios have a very low turn out. It isn't surprising, they have very little need to churn games out quickly because they are working from a blank cheque. This is very unprofitable for Microsoft, they kept Bungie because Halo sold Xboxes rather than because Bungie made a lot of money. With the Halo Trilogy ended and Bungie wanting to start on new franchises where is the benefit in the 2 companies staying together? Microsoft would have the financial burden and Bungie the restricted freedom. This way Microsoft will still get console shifting titles without the financial burden and Bungie are free to make games for other platforms. I could see a few Wii titles being churned out fast, Bungie will need to turn titles around quickly to stay profitable and the Wii is the perfect platform for doing so
Choze Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 This way Microsoft will still get console shifting titles without the financial burden and Bungie are free to make games for other platforms. I could see a few Wii titles being churned out fast, Bungie will need to turn titles around quickly to stay profitable and the Wii is the perfect platform for doing so Not only that but it represents MS's loosening of their frist party studios. Will EAD break away from Nintendo? Never. The last time this happened was with Sega. Clearly MS want to get their short term profit look better but this is such a huge cost for the long term.
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted October 5, 2007 Author Posted October 5, 2007 Quote Bungie: "............FREEDOME!!!!" (runs)
Choze Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Quote Bungie: "............FREEDOME!!!!" (runs) Dont forget the Halo profits.
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted October 6, 2007 Author Posted October 6, 2007 i think Bungie is a third party developer and that they should do so. and not be forced in to a first or second party developer because it feels unnatural for them.
DCK Posted October 6, 2007 Posted October 6, 2007 I wonder what's in this for Microsoft. It's not happening, but this leaves open a possibility for Sony or Nintendo to actually buy Bungie, and the Halo franchise. Even so, there's nothing restricting Bungie to publish Halo on other platforms when their exclusivity contract with Microsoft expires.
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