mcj metroid Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 This is a very old topic But one that hasn't been asked for a while. Is the critism of Wii being kiddy gone? Has the gimmick argument replaced it? We all know of this image that started maybe arounf the Snes era. the megadrive made the snes look a little kiddy from altered beast which had a half naked man on the box. This continued through the n64 era where sony tried their hand at it.. for them it worked a lot. I have to say I am glad Nintendo lost to sony at the time. If Nintendo had always been leader would Gaming still only be for kids and obssessive nerds? the question is did it disappear now that we have the dslite and the wii. The consoles look a lot more advanced and ''mature'' I guess. The advertising is better. The games are more violent this time(One even got banned) I believe if it's not gone it's very close. What do you guys think? Do you still hear people critising Nintendo for their childish console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emasher Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I think it is gone, since the wii came out I've never been criticized for being a nintendo fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I think it will never be gone. It's just something we have to live with as Nintendo fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle64 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I think Nintendo have finally cracked the family market they've been persuing for so long, and that's the family in a very real sense. Those accusiations of being "kiddy" were always as a result of attempting to make they're games family - and, by extension - kid friendly. Now that they've succesfully marketed to consumers both considerably older and younger then the usual video game demograph, being "kiddie" is hardly a valid argument that can be leveled at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy2211 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I've not really heard anyone say their kiddy this generation. I mean, even some of my mates parents who care not for video gaming talk about how the Wii looks appealing to them and when I told them it's the same company as the GameCube and N64 they were shocked. I don't honestly think the games have changed, just that the console now doesn't look like a school childs lunch box, and Nintendo are marketing themselves much better and changing the publics perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I don't think Nintendo were ever kiddy. Super Mario Bros for example was a family game created to be played by adults and kids alike. However during the birth of the gaming industry it was largely a pursuit of children rather than adults. Nintendo havn't changed all that much down the years, preferring to refine the same gaming experience over and over again, giving the now grown up fans what they want still. Other parts of the gaming market have shifted more with the times and that is why we now see more adult games created and as we all get older these are presumably the sort of games we should want to play. This clearly isn't the case, and thats where Nintendo come in. They have never been a kiddy company they have been a family company, in Japan that has clearly been their vision since the beginning with the FAMICOM (Family Computer) and Super FAMICOM name for what we know as NES and SNES surely proving this. It is only now that Nintendo's family approach to gaming is truly working as we see a shift from gaming being the geeks hobby to a more acceptable and socialable pass time, hence why we are seeing the mass penetration of the Wii to the types of demographics that wouldn't usually have been seen dead with a console i.e your "Alpha" Mums (hate saying that!), OAPS, normally non playing females etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Paul Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I think the kiddy image has gone, and a "suitable for everyone" image has replaced it, which in my opinion is a good thing. The only people who have a problem with the new image are the so-called hardcore who don't want these games for everyone and may still call nintendo kiddy occasionally. in the general public, no one has a problem with Nintendo, and everyone knows what a Wii is and is interested, unlike the gamecube and other traditional typer games consoles which don't intrigue the general public as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannbrownn Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Lets look at it like this, Who were the people who used to say Nintendo were for kids? Who are the people who are now saying Nintendo have turned their back on the hardcore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Answer to number 1 is: the kids themselves. I don't know what you're implying with number 2. You saying the answer is the same for both questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy2211 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I think the real answer was supposed to be the Sony / Microsoft fanboys. *shrug*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Maybe so. Funny thing is I got a friend who has a PS2 and he's been gaming pretty much since the Spectrum days, although he is a casual gamer, meaning he rarely finishes a game and he downloads them just because he can. Anyway, what's funny is that he thinks I'm pretty biased toward Nintendo (which is somewhat true... ) and he is of the opinion that Nintendo is kiddy. But then I see him all happy playing Simpsons games on his PS2. If that's not ironic, I'm a Ninja Turtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin von Snikbah Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Now it has been supplemented with a old people image. Lolz. Im sorry I could not come up with anything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMat Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 2 Words: Soccer moms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellyn Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I was once criticised for owning a GameCube over a PS2. I was made fun of for believing that the DS could pose a threat to the PSP and for even looking at stories and pictures of the Wii. How times change. I convinced at least 8 people to buy a DS and most of those are now considering the Wii. The kiddy image is shaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caris Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 This is a very old topic But one that hasn't been asked for a while. Is the critism of Wii being kiddy gone? Has the gimmick argument replaced it? We all know of this image that started maybe arounf the Snes era. the megadrive made the snes look a little kiddy from altered beast which had a half naked man on the box. This continued through the n64 era where sony tried their hand at it.. for them it worked a lot. I have to say I am glad Nintendo lost to sony at the time. If Nintendo had always been leader would Gaming still only be for kids and obssessive nerds? the question is did it disappear now that we have the dslite and the wii. The consoles look a lot more advanced and ''mature'' I guess. The advertising is better. The games are more violent this time(One even got banned) I believe if it's not gone it's very close. What do you guys think? Do you still hear people critising Nintendo for their childish console. Yeah i ment to post a thread like this a while ago, i think the kiddy image has pretty much gone now. They tried to get rid of it by having Resi Evil on the Cube but it didn't work. But i think they have manged to get rid of it this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiky-NiSuTe Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 i dont care if its gone or not becoase the first persone who says it is kiddy ill ask him to find all stars in the mario games if he still says its kiddy ill hid him with one of my cubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goron_3 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 That's a really good question actually, because the Wii isn't really a kiddy console. It appeals to everyone tbh, and i think people see it as the kind of thing they'd play at a party now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I don't think Nintendo were ever kiddy. Super Mario Bros for example was a family game created to be played by adults and kids alike. However during the birth of the gaming industry it was largely a pursuit of children rather than adults. Nintendo havn't changed all that much down the years, preferring to refine the same gaming experience over and over again, giving the now grown up fans what they want still. Other parts of the gaming market have shifted more with the times and that is why we now see more adult games created and as we all get older these are presumably the sort of games we should want to play. This clearly isn't the case, and thats where Nintendo come in. They have never been a kiddy company they have been a family company, in Japan that has clearly been their vision since the beginning with the FAMICOM (Family Computer) and Super FAMICOM name for what we know as NES and SNES surely proving this. It is only now that Nintendo's family approach to gaming is truly working as we see a shift from gaming being the geeks hobby to a more acceptable and socialable pass time, hence why we are seeing the mass penetration of the Wii to the types of demographics that wouldn't usually have been seen dead with a console i.e your "Alpha" Mums (hate saying that!), OAPS, normally non playing females etc... This is the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy-the-Dane Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I have a feeling kiddy image prejudice will last for a pretty long time amongst the ignorant. With time, I think it may disappear, but not from one day to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I'm sure theres people out there which still believe Nintendo is kiddy due to the characters used! BUT it's definately died down, and Nintendo's image as a whole is much much cooler now, then it ever has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajmist Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I think Nintendo have lost their kiddy image and now have something which i feel is worse which is a family / casual image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanelia Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I have to say I am glad Nintendo lost to sony at the time. If Nintendo had always been leader would Gaming still only be for kids and obssessive nerds? gaming has NEVER been only for kids and obsessive nerds. where did you get that idea? just because nintendo is now drilling into new demographics doesn't mean they were absent before. and i am still to be convinced that the more casual approach of things is in my advantage as a hardcore gamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMat Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Why does everyone in England have some sort of problem when people use an American phrase? It's not like i said "Will you come fix my faucet, it's been broken since fall!" God fucking damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj metroid Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 gaming has NEVER been only for kids and obsessive nerds. where did you get that idea? just because nintendo is now drilling into new demographics doesn't mean they were absent before. and i am still to be convinced that the more casual approach of things is in my advantage as a hardcore gamer. I'm talking from an outside point of view. Most people thought Nintendo gaming was for kids. Why does everyone in England have some sort of problem when people use an American phrase?It's not like i said "Will you come fix my faucet, it's been broken since fall!" God fucking damn yamn... this is a Wii thread can you NOT talk shit for 2 seconds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMat Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 yamn... this is a Wii thread can you NOT talk shit for 2 seconds? I was replying to someone else's post! I know it's not on topic but i wanted to reply to it. It's not like i came in to start an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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