ShadowV7 Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Ah that trailer I love ToS It's cause Collette uses super super uber chosen gel cause she keeps tripping up and going through walls. The hair protects her head i'm afraid.
Tales Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Nothing new. I haven't seen anyone complain about the lack of cel-shading, am I the only one who miss it?
Jonnas Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Nothing new. I haven't seen anyone complain about the lack of cel-shading, am I the only one who miss it? Well, considering they removed the black outline, I'm quite happy with the results.
pedrocasilva Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 I haven't seen anyone complain about the lack of cel-shading, am I the only one who miss it?No, but that's the game's lesser problem, IMO.
Guest Maase Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 I like the trailer. Geez, can someone please tell me: "What's the problem with this game?"
pedrocasilva Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Geez, can someone please tell me: "What's the problem with this game?"The fact that it recycles ToS assets to no end, has no overworld, no detailed shadows, mouths are not detailed and needed work, bad texturework, doesn't enter into the realm of "this couldn't be achieved on GC (or PS2, with work, for that matter) uses a weekend team with no prior experience, reportedly didn't have Fujishima working on character designs because he's "too busy" (yet, he is doing them for Vesperia), the fact that 90% of Team Symphonia is working on Vesperia... I could go on. the problem with this game is the fact that for a home console version it's lazy, and that's only made worse by the existence of something that isn't (and is the clear priority instead of this one) This... is the short end of the stick, lacks ambition and effort... and we're getting it.
Ten10 Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 We give this game a lot of negativity but wasn't it intended to just be a spin off at first rather than a full fledged game? With that in mind it is understandable the the factors that are bringing this game together are quite poor. And I suppose by the time they decided to blow the whole thing up it was too late to get team symphonia and Fujishima, and the project will continue as it had. Perhaps in a few years we will get Dawn of the new world remix done up in the way it should have been.
pedrocasilva Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 We give this game a lot of negativity but wasn't it intended to just be a spin off at first rather than a full fledged game? With that in mind it is understandable the the factors that are bringing this game together are quite poor. And I suppose by the time they decided to blow the whole thing up it was too late to get team symphonia and Fujishima, and the project will continue as it had. Perhaps in a few years we will get Dawn of the new world remix done up in the way it should have been.That's no excuse. For the record... I have no love for Fujishima and I don't really care about him; but I care about them lying with all the teeth they have in the Nintendo Power interview. I care about the fact that shows they are focusing on other stuff, which makes this totally secondary. This being a spin-off... well, nothing bad with that as long as there was really ambition and effort, which there isn't. I said it and I'll say it again, I think the game will still be good. But that doesn't save it from being what it is so far; neither saves all the situation of awkwardness when the console who's third in Japan gets the main installment of a japanese centric game and we get this part time job attempt who'll probably sell better just the same, and if it doesn't... it's because they jeopardized their priorities.
Mokong Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Couple of things i just noticed in that trailer. Lloyd and Genis both have Exspheres on their hands, and also looks like Collect ad Zelos have there Cruixis Crystals still, also there was a part that showed some sort of crystal on Marta's forehead?
darksnowman Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 To go with that trailer, IGN now have a preview up. I won't quote it all here cos it might have some story spoilers in it depending on how much you want to avoid. Here's the link: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/855/855146p1.html They have a few screens up also.
Guest Maase Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 http://wii.ign.com/articles/855/855146p1.html I don't know, guys... It really sounds awesome to me :S
darksnowman Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Maase... I posted that link right above you, lad. Here are more screens, this anime one being a taster: http://dol.dengeki.com/data/news/2008/2/29/93f2b1f1af8141bf4489fab3a3bec121.html
pedrocasilva Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 Ok, so... now that we have freeloader... Is anyone up for importing this day one (in japanese) and start grinding into it? I'm thinking of it, I mean... I ought to import in sooner or later anyway, might as well have the bragging rights of playing it first.
Tales Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 I'm not. I'm not going to ruin the experience by playing through it and not understand a thing of what's going on and having to read walkthroughs to find out where I'm supposed to go next. I will wait for the NA release.
ShadowV7 Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 North American release for me. I'll see events happen but not know why or what they're saying, so when I do play it in English, it'll still be ruined. Definently get it when it hits America.
Mokong Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Hey guys, Does anyone have any decent art work of Sheena.... i wanna get a new custom t-shirt made up when I to the Philippines next month and wanna get one of Sheena, but can't find anything with a good action pose or big enough (A4 page size would be best, they won't try pictures that they think are too small cuz they can't see all the detail) Cheers (if you have no idea what i'm talking about when i say "custom t-shirt", watch this vid... bout half way all will become clear http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ED1hj69G0 )
Ten10 Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 I might have some but I'll have to check when I get home.
pedrocasilva Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 New interview: First of all, why make a sequel to Tales of Symphonia on Wii, rather than create a brand new ‘Tales of’ storyline? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: The original Tales of Symphonia was very well received both by our domestic fans and fans overseas. We feel that the wonderful characters (both in terms of design and personality) and the enchanting world that the game took place in are two of the major reasons for the critical acclaim. For Dawn of the New World, we aimed to create a game that is set in the same world as Symphonia, so our fans can find out what happened to their favorite characters since the previous title. At the same time, we felt bringing a brand new Tales adventure to the Wii would be the best way to show our appreciation to our fans. (well duh, but this is not a new tales this is ToS 1.1) How has the in-game world changed since Symphonia on the GameCube? Will there be many surprises for fans of the original? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: From the visual aspect all the character models have been remodelled with a more realistic body proportion. Taking advantage of the more powerful new hardware, the background textures for all towns and dungeons were all newly created, allowing for higher quality visuals and a much more sophisticated game overall. (oh really? you must not be seeing the same screenshots and texture resolution that I am; it's crap) Another big addition to the game is the ability for players to tame monsters. Not only will monsters be able to fight along side the player, but the monsters can also evolve into more powerful monsters with new skills and abilities as they gain experience. Why did your team choose to use a point-and-click map for moving around the world, rather than keeping the traditional format and letting players explore the world on foot? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: There are many reasons for this choice. First of all, considering that Dawn of the New World is being released on the Wii, we wanted to take advantage of the Wii remote in a way that would not compromise, but enhance the unique gameplay that the Tales series is known for. The point and drag format was one of the ways in which we were able to achieve this. At the same time, we were also limited by the production schedule (hence... no overworld). Overall, we felt that the new, more compact interface would allow the game to flow between story-telling and battles much smoother, creating a much better experience on for our players. (easier on your low time and better for us... wow for the simple-minded) There have been cases where developers have forced motion controls into games when they should not have. Will you be keeping motion control to a minimum for this game? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: As we mentioned earlier, we wanted to bring the Tales experience to the Wii in a way that takes advantage of the Wii’s uniqueness, yet at the same time would not interfere with the core gameplay mechanics that our fans have come to expect from a Tales game. The Tales series has always been known for its deep, fast- paced, action packed battle system. We didn’t want to compromise this by forcing our players to swing the Wii remote endlessly. Instead, we chose to stay true to the action packed battle system by utilising the motion control to activate shortcut commands during battles. Can you please explain how the new battle system works? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: The battle system is based around the Free Run System, which has been the basic system for all of our recent Tales games. For Dawn of the New World, we’ve introduced a new system called the “Elemental Grid”. The Elemental Grid allows the player to affect the dominant element of the battle field depending on the skills they use. The dominant element affects everything from the effectiveness of the character’s attacks, to which characters will participate in Unison Attacks, to whether the player can tame enemy monsters at the end of each battle. Although we are balancing the gameplay so that players can enjoy the game without taking any of this into consideration, we also want to make the battles enriching enough as to reward even the more hardcore gamers. Will cooking and skits return? And what will be available in terms of side-quests – will the Guild approach from Tales of Innocence be taken? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: The cooking system and skits are both fan favourites in the Tales series and will both be making their return in Dawn of the New World. The biggest difference with the cooking system this time is how it ties directly into the monster system. Depending on which dish the player cooks for their monsters, it can affect everything from the monsters’ basic parameters to how they evolve. The skits system is also a classic staple in the Tales franchise and Dawn of the New World will remain faithful to it as well. Side-quests in the form of the Neko-nin Guild will be in the game as well. The player will be able to visit the Neko-nin Guild and choose from a list of quests to accept. The player can also manage their monsters at the Neko-nin Guild. Has consideration been given to including any WiiConnect24 or Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection functions? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: I’m afraid we don’t have any plans for either service at this time. So far we have seen Collette return as a playable character and Lloyd make an appearance. But will there be many other familiar faces returning from the GameCube game? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: All of the characters from the original Tales of Symphonia will make their own unique appearance in the game. What would you say to people that think this is going to be very similar to the GameCube game? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: As I mentioned in the first question, it has always been a priority for us since the very beginning to keep the elements that were a hit from Tales of Symphonia, while improving upon it to make it into something even better. Taking that into consideration, it wouldn’t be surprising for some to have the impression that this looks very “similar” to the previous title. (recycled assets for one are similar) However, at the same time, we’ve also incorporated various new elements when it comes to the storyline, gameplay and various systems. We’re also confident that once you play the final product, you will not be disappointed with the results. (we already are you dumbwits, give us Vesperia) Tales of Innocence has performed better than Tales of the Tempest, and was also critically acclaimed by many sources. But are you personally pleased with the sales performance of Tales of Innocence on DS so far? Hideo Baba-san, Tales Brand Manager: In many ways, we were able to apply the lessons learned during the development of Tales of the Tempest to Tales of Innocence. This allowed us to create an even better title. Each and every member of the staff kept in mind our goal of creating the best Tales game for the DS hardware throughout the project. Looking at all the positive comments and feedbacks we’ve received from our users, we felt they were truly able to appreciate and understand our dedication to our goal. And considering there are so many readers requesting to play the game in English, will the game be released in the US and Europe? Hideo Baba-san, Tales Brand Manager: I’m sorry to say that there are currently no plans at this point. Previously there were rumours that Tales of the Abyss would come to the GameCube. Was there any truth to this rumour and could we see the game ‘remade’ on Wii in the future? Hideo Baba-san, Tales Brand Manager: We can’t comment on anything that hasn’t been decided, but we will say that this is nothing more than a rumour. We certainly will not disclose information which could mislead our fans in any way. At this time, there is absolutely no possibility for the rumour in question to be true. Baba-san, when speaking to you last year, you said there was a possibility of a ‘Tales of’ game being made for WiiWare if people were interested. Since then there has been considerable praise from readers about the idea. Will the positive reaction encourage Bandai Namco to make a Tales game for the download service? Hideo Baba-san, Tales Brand Manager: As there are many different platforms on the market today, we’re constantly evaluating each one to see which would be the best for the Tales series shine on in terms of the story, gameplay, controls, as well as other elements and aspects essential to the series. Of course, WiiWare is one of the potential platforms that we are evaluating. With that said, we can’t promise that this statement will automatically mean that there are immediate plans in the near future for a download service. What we can promise though is that the Tales franchise will continue to evolve along with industry trends and the series will be making the transition to next-gen hardware and we ask that our fans to look forward to the future of the Tales franchise. (by "next gen" I sure hope you're thinking of Wii and not throwing us a jab, because Namco already threw it) Source: http://www.cubed3.com/news/9808 Namco's sweet talk.
pedrocasilva Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 New Images: (I don't even know why do I bother, they're subpar)
darksnowman Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 Hmm, I dunno why you bother Pedro but I'm glad you do- my standards are seemingly so low that I think its looking pretty decent. I like the new style of the characters!
Deathborn Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 Why did your team choose to use a point-and-click map for moving around the world, rather than keeping the traditional format and letting players explore the world on foot? Teruaki Konishi-san, Producer: There are many reasons for this choice. First of all, considering that Dawn of the New World is being released on the Wii, we wanted to take advantage of the Wii remote in a way that would not compromise, but enhance the unique gameplay that the Tales series is known for. The point and drag format was one of the ways in which we were able to achieve this. What's the ... This guy is drunk!
LazyBoy Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 I don't know why I keep coming in here, it just makes me angry. I mean look at those freaking screenshots. I still can't get over the overworld thing either.
Jonnas Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 I'm with Darksnowman on this one. To me, those look good. My only complaint is that the design of the new characters is clearly different from the original symphonian world. They have a different aura to them. That's definately not good when introducing new characters.
darksnowman Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 You playing Skies of Arcadia at the mo, Jonnas? I'm liking the Vyse avatar! To go with those screenshots, IGN have a preview up too. - its widescreen. - 200+ beasts to capture. Some evolve and you can feed them to up their stats. - you can recruit up to ten party members at a time. - unison attacks - grade shop confirmed!? - battle arena elements help any monsters in your party and you need to utilise the elemental alignments, affection, etc to recruit monsters. Check it out: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/866/866844p1.html
Jonnas Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 You playing Skies of Arcadia at the mo, Jonnas? I'm liking the Vyse avatar! Yup. I had forgotten exactly how awesome this game was. It's too bad there's no good enough Gilder artwork for the avatar... Anyhoo, enough of Off-topic.
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