Kav

These are the two games which it all is riding on, if either one doesn't have voice-chat or their online performance is sub-par (Brawl was atrocious online) then a Nintendo console can no longer be my main console. I'll play it sparingly for the big Nintendo titles and I'll pick up another console to satiate my gaming thirst.

For me it's that Nintendo are losing touch with me, a fan of theirs. I've owned a NES, SNES, N64, GC, Wii, WiiU, Gameboy, GBC, GBA, DS and a 3DS. I've grown up playing Nintendo games and love their franchises. It was a blast playing multiplayer on the N64 and GC with my brother and my friends round at ours... now we've all grown up, moved out and to different cities, we can't get together and play those games readily so online is the best option for us. This is where Nintendo are losing touch with me. I want to play with my friends and chat and have a laugh with them but Nintendo are hell-bent on making that as difficult as possible!

Last gen I'd have disagreed but they've taken too many mis-steps with the WiiU and their attitude toward online gaming for me that I no longer want them to make consoles. I'd love it if either Microsoft or Sony bought Nintendo. I'd say Sony for the games, although I can't stand the Dualshock 4... even though it's design is a lot better than prior Dualshocks, it still doesn't sit well with me because if the positioning of the analogue sticks. In fact, I much prefer the positioning of the Gamepad's analogue sticks and buttons. Advertising one game for 3 weeks is not a "huge marketing campaign for the second half of the year".

This is the game that will define the WiiU for me. It needs decent online with voice-chat. If this doesn't happen I will have lost faith in Nintendo!

Hold on Serebii, this time last year you were telling us of how Nintendo were planning to market the hell out of the machine in the second half of the year... that never happened. How do you still have your faith? To be honest, mine has gone, Nintendo as a console manufacturer are rubbish, as a game developer there's none better (in my opinion).

So am I the only one that didn't bother rebuilding Colony 6? Haha

I just think people have a right to an opinion. I don't see any problem whatsoever on an opinion. As I say, my problem is if it is acted upon, prejudice is raised or if they preach it. That's not fair to others.

In many a way I agree with you but I do t think we need challenge them unless the act out or preach against it. There's nóging wrong with them having their views on it. If they have such views but never act out or preach then that's perfectly fine. They're entitled to their opinion and just as I think they shouldn't preach, neither should we.

A cow sprouting wings and flying to the moon. It is unnatural and so it doesn't happen. :p

But it did have effect on me. Even though I wasn't going to post my issues, it still effected me. I felt it to be bad stuff, that other peoples problems got lost in posts, not specifically my own. I felt it was bad, hence my post became relevant.

Here's the thing Sheikah, I'm not suggesting homosexuality is unnatural. When a friend tells me it's unnatural I tell them that if it was unnatural there wouldn't be homosexuality. It is natural, not in the context most people use it for, but it's evidently within human nature hence it being. Same-sex acts occur in the animal kingdom too funnily enough too, it is natural in a manner of speaking. So yes, gene splicing and cloning is natural as it's in our nature to learn develop and create such techniques.

I'm not saying people can't change their opinions on things. It's just that I don't think people have to to behave differently. Also, we don't fly, we travel in things that are purposefully designed and built for flight. There's nothing unnatural in that. Also, survival of the fittest still plays a part in life it's just not to the extent it's meaning was initially coined for.

Yes I realise completely, I agree with him in that, as I've said. I just thought his sweeping statement that anyone I'm the WBC was incapable of reason wasn't fair to say. Is this directed at people who are against homosexuality? I don't think it's fair to call them tools just because of that. If they act out and discriminate then I'd be ok calling them tools but not just casually calling them all like that. My friends that are against it aren't tools. One of my friends that is against is good friends with one of my gay friends, hell they were both friends prior to me becomin their friend. If the gay lad is ok with him being against it and the other is against but accepts that is who the gay lad is, what's the problem there?

I was never going to post what's going on in my life here, I've got my own support network. But the triviality I felt of posts annoyed me so my posting about it was just in that I found it to be bad stuff, regardless of whether it pissed people off or not. People didn't have to respond.

You say that but what's to say that you are correct? What's to say you are right? They have beliefs which they're entitled to, the beliefs themselves don't hurt anyone it's the actions they undertake which do. There's no overriding a "critical" way of thinking, it's just their belief which there is nothing wrong with. It's the actions that are I think are wrong. I've nothing against those that think homosexuality is wrong, in the same way I've no problem with anyone thinking it's fine. For me, I have no problem with homosexuality, some of my family and friends are gay and I've no issue either being so. Likewise, some of my friends think it's wrong and unnatural and it disgusts them, I've no issue with them thinking that. They don't act out against anyone so why should I? There's no overriding a critical way of thinking, both trains of thought are fine. It's the picketing and preaching that I don't agree with. Everyone should be able to form their own opinions on the matter. Which although difficult for their family, it's still possible, the daughter did. I just think in your sweeping statement that you weren't being as balanced as you tend to be, that's what I meant by what you intend to uphold. You try to be balanced given things you've said on other topics. I just felt this wasn't a balanced view.

This is brilliant! Haha I'd not have posted normally but having learnt the error of our ways in the other thread I now see that it's fitting being in here as it's good to me and that's what matters. Haha

Generally speaking I agree, it's just that with the statement you made, over-exaggerated or not, still isn't really right to say which is what you tend to uphold is it not? You can't just say that these people don't have the ability to reason.

I'm going to get up and go for a morning stroll along the beach!

In this respect Animal is right. In thinking that nobody in the WBC has the ability to reason I think that you're being too close-minded there Dannyboy, effectively giving up your ability to reason because of how you feel towards the WBC.

With the Prem and La Liga we've got some great end of season on the go! I can't wait to see how it turns out, I'd not really want to put money on any of the teams in either league being champions.

It's funny that as good as the game is people have been discounting it as a new IP released under Nintendo simply because it's "too Japanese". Please note I know Nintendo didn't develop this but given it's an exclusive seeing as MonolithSoft are 2nd Party, it's fair to say it's released under Nintendo's banner.

It's something that was bothering me and so in that respect from, what you're saying, it qualified as being ok to go in the thread. I don't need to continually post it and continually deminish other's posts and so now I won't, so this is the last post I'll make of this ilk because I've finally got it off my chest. But it's unfair for people to deminish my post then too as it's something that bothered me. It's a bit poo because is it a bit of a catch 22 situation, but we should be at least be allowed to vent then? Just needed to get that off my chest too.

Your post was almost open, it was simply until then that you closed it shut and made all that you had said prior null and void. I believe it to be your error. Had you not said that I would have wanted to reply but having simply said I should just get over it, what's the point? It showed no willingness from your side to actually discuss, so yes, it is all your fault.

There was no going forward with it as your response was a simple "get over it". You yourself hadn't looked to actually converse and establish any actual meaningful communication.