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I wasn't sure if I would but given the idea of using party chat on the PS4 then yeah, I'll pick this bad boy up!

Anyhoo, it has become a discussion about Nintendo so I'm sorry, I didn't mean for it to. I do like how Sony are catering for the gamer though. The console's features, PS+ games, PS Now (when it's all up and running), listening to and making sure they do what 3rd Party Developers want to guarantee they get their games, giving us a very diverse range of games both indie and AAA. They've really thought it all out this generation and have done better than the others as a result.

Watch Dogs isn't as bad as people make out. Plenty of fun can be had with it... although, like a lot of Ubisoft games, it failed to live up to the hype/what they made it out to be.

Losing the gamer, I said. I also talked about multiplayer, online and voice-chat in my post which you choose to ignore for some odd reason. So tell me where I said that the fact I'm looking forward to more PS4 games is the ONLY reason Nintendo are LOSING the gamer. I'll tell you what though, it IS a fact that they are losing the gamer and the sales figures prove it. Just because I didn't mention them in that one post doesn't mean that it's not irrelevant. Sheikah saw this and posted. The thing that makes me laugh hilariously most of all over your posts is the fact that we know each other and have spoken loads about this and so you actually know there are PLENTY of reasons I think that Nintendo are losing the gamer. Hell, anyone that reads other posts in the forum knows I've a number of reasons that I think that. Yet you go on as if that one single sentence in that one single post is the only reason I have to think that. Hilariously silly posting Blade!

True but I was just being a cheeky git, mainly because I don't think the comparison fits.

It's not "I refuse to enjoy" it's "I don't enjoy". That's not cutting your nose off to spite your face. I've played many online games, both with and without voice-chat. This, I can certainly say, all those with voice-chat I have enjoyed more than those without. For arguments sake: if Nintendoland had online and voice-chat, I'd rather play that with mates than play MK8 with them but without voice-chat, even though I think MK8 is better. At least on Nintendoland we could have a laugh and joke together which would make it more fun than MK8. The only thing is, with Nintendo you'd have to watch the original trilogy without sound.

I didn't say they've lost every gamer. I think youre reading what I said in extremes. I'd not say I said it in an extreme because the sales figures show that a lot of gamers are not buying it.

This right here, the evidence is in the numbers. The Wii sold well because of casuals, yes, but I'd wager that more gamers bought the Wii than what'll end up buying the WiiU. It was the perfect price bracket and experience for a secondary console and an impulse buy, the WiiU isn't so less gamers will be attracted to it.

Wow. Again, wow. I don't think MK8 is fantastic, it's just that simple. I've always preferred the Battle Mode to the races in MKs which is another reason I'm not too keen on MK8. I do enjoy plenty of games. Some I'll enjoy that others don't, opinions can work like that funnily enough. What you've got to grasp is simply this: multiplayer gaming with your friends is always more fun when you can chat to each other.

Good enough to keep because I can at least have a laugh with my mates by joking with them etc. the game will still be tripe but I got it for free so I'd have kept it. It's like MK8, I don't play it much because I find it soulless playing online when I can't chat to my mates. If we could talk I'd be on it much more, I'd have joined and played in the MK League but because you can't chat whilst racing it's just not fun enough to play much.

Well I'm a gamer and I'm considering not getting their next console. I'll definitely not get it on release or at full price that's for sure. So they are losing gamers, it'll not just be me.

This post is idiotic beyond belief. Seriously, wow! If I'm gaming with my friends online I want to be chatting whilst playing via party chat (for example). Yes, talking to my friends whilst gaming is that important. You wouldn't play locally with your friends and not talk to them would you, just sit there in silence?!

Nintendoland is tripe, I got it for free as a gift, traded that fucker in straight away to pay towards a better game... although I'd have kept it if it had online with voice-chat. If it had online without voice-chàt I'd still have got rid of the fucker. Not got Smash Bros because of the lack of voice-chat and I don't play on MK8 because of it's soulless online experience. Nintendo need to get up to speed with online and communication. I'd play on my WiiU if they did. Yes I'm going there, again. :p

This year I'm looking forward to more PS4 games than WiiU games, which to me just says how Nintendo are losing the gamer. The Witcher 3 WH Batman AK No Mans Sky Rime Bloodborne These are those I'm looking forward to for the PS4. On the WiiU in only looking forward to Zelda and Xenoblade CX of what's announced, granted I'm looking forward to these two more than any other games but still, only 2... unless Nintendo put voice-chat in Splatoon during the online gameplay, then this would be in there too. Nintendo have lost me with multiplayer gaming, all thanks to their attitude toward online and voice-chat. My favourite game on the PS4 is Battlefield 4, I bloody love that!

As above...

Fixed for you mate :p Friday isn't good for me, I'm not in, but Sunday is.

Mine were of the devastating variety. Glad its over. Fingers crossed for a better one for us this year eh? Haha

18.5 million PS4s sold worldwide. 4.1 million of them through 23/11/14 to 04/01/15.

Sony just announced that they've sold 18.5 million PS4s worldwide, 4.1 million of those through 23/11/14 to 04/01/2015. That's how you do it Nintendo, create a machine that caters to the gamer.

The year 2014. 2014 was really fucking bad for me!

I've no plans Thursday so I should be ok for it @Blade... finally get myself round to giving it a go.

They'll announce something I'll like but generally continue to disappoint me with their attitude to online/voice-chat.

I concur, such a fantastic game!

I've just started watching it, 5 episodes in and enjoying it. EDIT - I've just finished it, enjoyed it quite a bit and I'm looking forward to the next season.

Jesus, where'd that come from Spurs..?! @dazzybee must be a happy chap. I'm not! Haha Conceding so many goals isn't like us, a poor performance on our part.