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I used a plane for the hurdles too :p Much easier, since theres no contact and corner cutting. Jiggoseum really was a great level, a lot of interesting challenges - long jump, dominoes, etc. My favourite premade was Humba's transport copter, with the stickyball. It was great for loads of missions.

Finally starting to get into this game after getting it from Christmas. Mirrors Edge and Banjo won the race to hold my attention first, so I'm only about an hour into it. But I'm wondering: am I supposed to buy the new guns from the store, or am I going to find them lying around later? Like in RE4, when you can find the shotgun free or buy it from the merchant. I don't wanna waste the credits on buying if I can help it :p

I'd quite happily lie for £275, tbh.

Hahaha, reminds me of the chant my old youth team had. We were kind of inbetween the two divisions in skill - always top of Div2, but always bottom of Div1. So our old chant when in Div1 was "If the league was upside down then we'd be top" to the tune of "If your happy and you know it"

Still playing this on and off to finish up. Now have all the ordinary jiggys from challenges and all the jinjos. Still need a couple hundred more notes, 2 mumbo crates and about 60 TT trophies :p

My computer runs really slowly with Vista. Like, if the computer is doing anything in the background at all its really laggy with tabbing between windows. I had to upgrade to Vista after my hard drive failed and I had to reformat. I couldn't find my XP recovery disc, the only one I had being my sisters Vista one. I was in need of some files off the hard drive in a hurry, so I went with Vista. By the time I had sorted everything out again it didn't seem worth it to buy an XP recovery disc and go through sorting everything again.

Is Defiance about that story of the jew's who escaped the Nazi's by surviving for a few years in the forest in Belarus? (Wow, that was a badly constructed sentence) To be fair, Haggis saying rather isn't nearly as annoying as you and chair saying lovely.

Sorry, I was more referring to current stuff. Of course there are plenty of old British sit-coms and what not worth watching, like Red Dwarf, Fawlty Towers, Alan Partridge, Dads Army...the list goes on and on.

Microsoft took a piece of the Nintendo pie with Avatars. Why would Nintendo doubt they would copy this? The patent makes perfect sense in that way, I don't see what you're trying to argue. So Microsofts moves to stuff like Avatars, and pushing of games like Lips and You're In The Movies is moving away? Yes, to prevent MS and Sony using it. It doesn't then inherently have to mean that they are preventing third parties from using it as you previously suggested. So you really think there would be as many sales of the Wii if the only games on it were first party? You think the fact that the library is in the hundreds, not the tens, has nothing to do with peoples decision to buy? I think the problem comes down to market size and what kind of game developers want to make. Who goes into the industry to program for Barbie Horse Adventure? Nobody. They go in to make Bioshock, or Fallout. Because, as evidenced by CoD:W@W, the market for those games is not there on the Wii compared to the combined might of PS3 and 360, the Wii simply doesn't get them. The extra work needed to port something to Wii just isn't worth it, which is a damn shame. Yep, this is all true. But look at Nintendo's big Christmas game: Wii Music. While Microsoft have a proper "hardcore" title in Fable II and Sony have an excellent bridge title in LittleBigPlanet. Meanwhile, both consoles get Fallout 3 and Dead Space. I would argue Wii Play is only still in the charts because its packaged with a WiiMote. The game on its own merits, even if it was selling for the £5 extra that it costs individually, wouldn't be up there. And yes, there must be a new F-Zero. Must be. How amazing would F-Zero be with Excite Truck handling? Very. (Also, I notice you are a fellow Excite Truck fan. High five for that alone!) Aaanyway, much as I'm loving the discussion the three of us are having I must now sleep.

Dunno about the Wii versions but its certainly true for the 360 ones as my friend has done so.

Meh, I won't then. I really really want XP back.

Peep Show I will give you, I forgot about that one. Alan Partridge, are they still making new episodes of that? I thought it was resigned to UKTV Gold. Harry Hills TV Burp is also pretty good, but not so much that I make a thing of watching it. The rest you listed are all crap:heh: There are no actual British drama shows worth watching. Something along the lines of 24, or Lost, or Prison Break, or Dexter, or Heroes (although thats pretty shit now too). None of the 9 oclock action series worth watching that are shown on Sky or Virgin or even ITV are British.

So you know insiders in both MS and Sony telling you that neither of them are interested in the system? What you are saying is that Nintendo patented the idea, thereby preventing third parties using it, thereby increasing Nintendo's sales? Or are you saying Nintendo patented the idea, that was dumb, its going to push third parties away, and is ergo a bad idea? Because so far as I can tell, you're trying to say both. What I'm saying is that just because Nintendo patented it doesn't mean they are going to cock block other developers from using it. They would want to encourage third parties, as seen so often on this very forum when people complain about third party support, or lack thereof. Better third party games means more console sales. More console sales means more software sales. Nintendo will not gain anything in trying to take an advantage over their third party software rivals. They will gain something in trying to take an advantage over Sony and Microsoft, their hardware rivals. Ergo, you're previous statement about the patent: is irrelevant. Which was all I was trying to say. I wasn't meaning this. I absolutely adore games like this; Zack and Wiki and Elebits are two of my favourite Wii games. I was referring simply too a quality of game. People often, in defence of the system, list off a group of games that are available on the system. All I meant was that the 360 and PS3 have longer lists. Sorry if I wasn't clear, I can talk around a point with stuff like this sometimes This is what people are complaining about: While there is more than Mario, Link, and Samus, why aren't we seeing this? Where is F-Zero, Donkey Kong and Kid Icarus? There was a post on Kotaku earlier which caught my eye, and seems relevant to this last point you made: While this guy takes it too extremes, many of his points ring very true with my stance on matters, particularly the last paragraph.

If I upgrade to Windows 7, will it keep all my settings and stuff or will I have to redo everything? I fancy getting rid of Vista, never did really like it, but I can't be bothered to go through setting up my network and such again.

Surely though you can't believe that the Wii has the same number of games catering to the "hardcore" audience as the other consoles, though? Because after all, this is where the comparisons are coming from, from both sides of the argument. I would look at that list you posted the other day (dunno if it was this thread or another, but it was a list of games on the Wii you considered to be in this category), and see maybe 2 games I would consider to be potentially good games that are on the horizon. On the other hand, there are far more for the PS3 and 360, which is leading to higher expectations from everyone for Nintendo. Look at how many games already released are "hardcore" on the Wii, and I'm sure you will rattle off a list 20 games strong. But I guarantee, if you set the standard for qualifying games at the likes of RE:UC and Red Steel, then I will rattle off a list 100 long for the 360. And thats the sad state of things.

Only British TV worth watching is Top Gear and all the panel shows - HIGNFY, QI, MTW and NMTBC (yay for acronyms). So, Dave, basically.

Eenuh (btw, are Eenuh and Ine pronounced the same way? In my head they are), should I quit my job? On one hand the economy is in the shit and getting new ones are hard, but its only part time, I'm not in desperate need of money, the work sucks, it takes up my whole weekend leaving very little time for doing stuff with friends and I hate 90% of the people there.

To stop Sony and Microsoft using it? Do you realise how dumb you made yourself sound with this statement? If Nintendo didn't want third party games to sell they wouldn't license them to release anything. They wouldn't sell them the SDKs in the first place. Why would they let them do some things, and not others? Sure, the games themselves are competition with Nintendo's, but they still need a quality third party backing in order to keep ahead of the competition in the shape of the PS3 and Xbox360. I get what you mean but it just doesn't make sense to go through such an arduous process for such little gain. This isn't a one day job, to deal with every different combination. Think of stat divisions, and how many possible combinations of that there are. The game needs to have a programmed response to every single division of stat points and every single point in the game, based on 10 other boolean decisions the player has already made.

A patent doesn't have to be enforced to stop someone if they don't mind it happening. Nintendo can quite happily allow EA to make a game using the system if they want to. They aren't letting third parties in on their market, they are using third parties to sell more hardware to have more people to see software too. Basic math: If 10 people own a system and 100 of them buy a Nintendo game, Nintendo have sold 10 games. If 20 people own a system, and 50% buy a Nintendo game, they made the same amount of software while selling more hardware and having a larger potential market for future pieces of software.

Licensing a patent. In the same way they allow third parties to develop games that use the WiiMote, but only if it's on the Wii. Sure, Nintendo might sell more of their own games (in terms of % of install base) if only they could use it, but they will sell more consoles if they give it to third parties, and inherently increase the market size for their own software.

Wasn't referring to myself Series 5 I think. Game over, boys.

Laziness isn't the issue when it comes to the Fallotu 3 example. And what the hell did you "say previously"? So instead they'll do one showing all possible outcomes, removing what you said and exaserbating the problem? Or do you mean select individually based on each possible combination? Do you have any idea how many variables there are? I'm thinking here of something like Fallout 3 or Mass Effect, and since I've only completed ME of them I'll use it as an example. There are variables based on your gender, determining dialog choices; based on how high your dialog skills are; based on how high your good/bad meter is; based on previous decisions you have made (kill or not kill person x, rescue person y or z, etc); based on what weapons, items etc you have. How do you plan on creating a video for every single one of these possible branches? Can you comprehend how big a job that is? Right, definately. How does this 1. encourage expansion towards non-linearity in games that would benefit? 2. encourage casuals to play these non linear games? 3. help the hardcore player at all? Because there have been so many games of the scope of Fallout 3, MGS4, GTAIV on Wii? I don't find it a stretch for them to license the technology to third parties for free if it is of a benefit to their own console. I posted before the Kotaku article :p

I'd suggest that most 360 fans do not think all Wii owners are casuals. I'm a Wii owner, and I wouldn't classify myself as a casual. The reason for all those sales of Carnival Games? The large proportion of Wii owners who are. The low sales of CoD Wii? The small proportion of Wii owners who aren't. Ergo, my opinion is backed up by facts. Your opinion is not.

You know the only thing to do is to upload them somewhere for all the internet to see. Dude. You're an admin on a Nintendo fanforum. :p

I thought the point of Wii Music was to make it accessable to everyone.