Sheikah

I get that. But if you're very concerned about the cost to just play a couple of franchises, why not get a PS3? No subscription to play online, dirt cheap console, and lots of other titles you might enjoy based on what you've currently played on Wii U (particularly the ports). Makes more sense, no? The PS3 will no doubt be supported for a good number of years yet; the PS2 even got FIFA 14.

Nintendo need to jump on this and recognise this meme.

I thought this, at the start of the season. So Irish now. Which part of the GoT World Map is Ireland, exactly? :p

I thought a fair few released ports on the console? As for the others...you can't really blame them for predicting the situation sooner. Let's be honest, the Wii U situation isn't really down to the third parties. It is the console specification and the image, and Nintendo as a company, that caused the devs to flee.

I think the big thing was that the Wii was really successful, so you can't just dismiss that (as the devs initially didn't). But when the console isn't selling and the game sales just aren't there, as well as a lack of future proofing to keep running third party games...you can see why they dropped support.

But FIFA 14 was still on PS2! I get there are many reasons to want a PS4, but for the games he wants I really don't see it improving the experience massively. Certainly not in the region of hundreds of pounds. Plus if he would have got it on Wii U had it been available, you can expect the same level of graphical fidelity as the Wii U in the PS3. But with better online.

My post was hyperbolic, and dismissive of a less than logical argument (and those in agreement with it). It wasn't any more than that. There's no reason for the seismic clusterfuck of a derailment over this comment, honestly. This is a Nintendo subforum. If I get thanked in here, I have to start questioning what I'm doing or saying wrong. :p Of course! Since I already did that. Well, I may have corrected a few other problems there, too. (and the 360 still has the online cost, hence the PS3 suggestion)

Indefinitely? Well FIFA 13 was on PS2, you know. The sorts of games he wants will be getting it for a good while, certainly long enough that by the time he needs a PS4, they will probably be much, much cheaper. Edit: actually, so was FIFA 14!

Which, to me, tells me you weren't even remotely as bothered as him by it.

Even so, why PS4? Why not PS3? His cost breakdown would have been so much lower. I don't know why someone would consider the PS4 if they're only interested in a couple of games that are also available much cheaper! That's why there's just no logic to the argument.

The battery life is great, but I don't find it as comfortable as either the 360/X1 or PS3/PS4 controllers. I think the buttons are a bit hard and small, and they hurt my thumb after playing Mario Kart for a few hours. The build quality feels a little on the cheap side, but otherwise it's decent. Definitely preferable to the gamepad for most games. Although Wind Waker does benefit from the map being on the gamepad.

This is a prime example of making a mountain out of a molehill. I'd be willing to bet a good amount of money that not one other person would have taken that particular comment as badly as you. It was also hyperbole. When I say 'shame' I am not issuing commands to people to perform seppuku. Rather, disappointment, as his argument really was not a very good one yet the thanks may convince him otherwise or encourage him to do more of the same.

It was ridiculous, for all the reasons I gave. He is also looking to buy the most/join most expensive console available when he doesn't even like the games on it, when he could have bought a PS3 with free online (which I suggested it to him). You can't really help these people. They're impervious to reason.

Ha! That response sure was unexpected. I don't get the problem. If I thanked a post that was flagrantly ridiculous, I would be ashamed. And you are not, for some reason? Ok.

First off, shame on the people who thank this guy. His arguments are some of the worst this forum has ever seen. Actually, you did factor in the PS Plus charges. Full price Plus charges, too. No, your 'rant' was about how expensive the PS4 will be for you. The entertaining part of your endless tirades is how unnecessarily blinkered you are in your gaming selection. There is literally no reason why you would only have two games to play unless you are so dedicated to one company's output that you hardly play anything else. Case in point, you waxed lyrical about the many third party Wii U games you managed to pick up cheap. Those exact same kind of games are on systems like the PS3 and 360 already. I ALSO previously told you that you could pick up a PS3 for your FIFA needs. FREE and GOOD online, dirt cheap console, and tons of totally awesome games available. Yet you focus on a PS4 to do a cost breakdown? OK. If you just want to play online then you will pay the cost, and the games will come for no extra price. You can say you're paying for everything, but whatever way you look at it, you'll be getting games and you might enjoy them. That's the only point I was making. Plus it's incredible value.

I only mentioned PS4 after you did, so pat yourself on the back for that one.

By that logic, it is better to sell CoD4 now, to the far greater number of 360 and PS3 owners, than it was all the way back then. Do you not see the problem with what you're saying? The game won't be new anymore. And it'll be cheaper on the other consoles.

Delaying the release of a game on a system until people stop caring about said game/it is no longer new is never a good idea. It really doesn't seem like the kind of game that would do well on a Nintendo console either.

My name appeared as Sheikah, right? Can't you change the name you appear as to others to Mr Paul? You appeared as Paul to me, I recognised your Mii which was lucky.

Was playing this online before and having lots of fun. More fun when you're not gunning for three stars. :p My thumb really hurts from keeping the gas pedal pressed. Them pro buttons are hard! Did I spot a @Mr\-Paul before?

Couldn't agree more. PS4's first year will put the Wii U to shame, I think. It also had AC4 Black Flag, which only came a month later and ran considerably better than the other versions. Absolutely loving this game at the moment.

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That looks pretty much the cheapest 500GB around to me. Should be fine, although if you ever plan to use the drive for anything else you might want to front just another £12 for a 1TB.

Exactly the same with my girlfriend... can do everything but slide around corners properly. 50 CC Moo Moo farm, she can actually win that sometimes. It's so slow at 50 CC and the level is relatively linear so it can actually be quite hard to catch up and overtake. :p

And that validates why I play as Luigi. Year of Luigi indeed.