Sheikah

The usual crap this week.

It's a timed exclusive, thankfully!

Nah, no release date has yet been revealed.

Never ceases to amaze what people 'choose' to forget if it doesn't suit their agenda. :p

Woot! 8PM it is (or as soon as peeps are ready!). @Eddage @Zell @Shorty @MilaGi Might be on half an hour earlier or so for some heroic weekly.

Take it from me, you're wasting your time. People will complain about this just like people complain about the weather.

Dude, the fact somebody almost autistically infatuated with 'perfect' emulation perfection bought 50 titles (be it PS3 or Vita) tells me they've got it right. They're obviously spending the right amount of money and time emulating their games so they can bring lots of them without impairing quality to the extent someone like you won't buy them.

Yeah, clearly: Sony's emulation efforts must be so unappealing for such an emulation connoisseur for you to have bought 50. Honestly, if you're that bothered about every pixel, flicker and grain to be perfect (which I strongly doubt Nintendo even achieve, see Majora's Mask) then I'm surprised you don't just exclusively play old games on your old consoles.

@Shorty @Map @Zell @MilaGi @Eddage Tonight 9PM (latest) - may be slightly earlier depending on Map's availability so would be cool if you're on before then. Hard Crota!

FF9 has no slowdown issues for me, nor have any of the many PS1 games I've played on it. I think when you're complaining about using Fira then that's so small that it wouldn't bother the vast majority of players. Never noticed that myself though! I'd certainly take having a mahoosive library available over an insignificant flaw like that. We don't really have much of an accurate comparison for the Vita though to be honest, given its competitor is 3DS. That's hardly running N64 games across the board...

I'm willing to bet if comments like "this looks amazing" resurfaced from certain individuals every few weeks then nobody would have anything to say about that. No, I think the problem here is that the talk is negative, and certain people who are somewhat unhealthily attached to Nintendo are getting in a fluster over it. In my opinion, you and (more specifically) everyone else who has a problem with this are in fact the problem, continuously complaining about members on here as opposed to gaming features (this is a forum about gaming discussion). As everyone has been saying, if you can't deal with the discussion that's going on then there's the ignore user feature. @Ronnie might want to use this, rather than complain about the same people over and over!

I haven't completed FF7 on Vita yet, but what I've played of it has had no problems. Certainly nothing like that! Let's not forget that the initial point here was that one company was leagues ahead of the other in terms of emulation quality. If that's a real bug with the game then that is indeed a shit one. But so too was something like the collector's edition Zelda disc with Majora's Mask on it. That shit would freeze regularly, and you'd lose hours and hours of play due to the unique save system. No emulation is really perfect, yet for most PS1 games it's great and pleases all but the most annoyingly stringent gamers.

Persona 5 The Orgasmic Collectors Edition gonna get ordered.

Or perhaps people can stop telling others where to go? It's valid discussion, on topic every time it appears. Ironically, what makes it a much bigger deal is people playing it down by arguing that it isn't necessary or important, creating a much bigger chain of posts!

Shiiiiit man, this looks amazing!

Well there goes the point of perfect emulation. Because why perfectly emulate games that are broken to begin with. So dumb. Care to prove that with a screenshot? Even if you do, I strongly doubt you have played through all these on Vita (given many have been available on PSP/PS3 for a long time before). It seems like a pointless argument anyway, since you just dismissed inherent problems in NES games while later down seemingly picking up on trivial problems with about 3 PS1 games. I can categorically disarm at least part of your argument here; I have played FF9 from start to finish and it runs like a dream. Calling it 'serviceable' is really quite ignorant. Games on it run great, to the point that only your hardcore basement dwellers really have anything to complain about for the overwhelming majority of games. I clearly don't lack reading comprehension. I'm really the last guy you should be saying that to. You basically said hardcore faithful levels of emulation was what made the VC games desirable. But you see, customers who want to pick up games on either VC or PSN have the same expectations. PSN/VC are, for all intents and purposes, interchangeable terms in this context. Nintendo customers want the games they loved because they are great and they don't want them to run like shit, which is the same as PS1 gamers. I suppose you've got a source to prove that? You're also really not one to comment as your perceptions are pretty misaligned with that of most gamers here. Well that's great and all. Do you have a source for that, perhaps a breakdown of the cost and man hours they spend sprucing up each title for both PS1 devs/Nintendo? This is...really bad. You're openly admitting people are thankful for glitches in Nintendo VC games that preserve the nostalgia element, then complain when PS1 games released on the EU store are 50Hz, just like back in the day? Da fuq?

Dcubed, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you playing something different to me? I'm reasonably sure I've played more PS1 games on Vita than you, on account of you being firmly in the Nintendo camp. Vita emulation is great, and people are more than happy with it. You're trying to justify Nintendo's poor decision to go with OTT emulation based on some 'perfection' criteria that almost certainly hardly anyone really cares about. Striving for some crazy level of 1:1 perfection resulting in hardly any games to play is pretty daft. What absolute bull. "Without compromising on the quality that makes the VC desirable". So by that remark, PS1 games are undesirable? I could have sworn I really wanted to download Suikoden I and II this week. Silly me!

So you totally just side-stepped his point to make some snide potshots about things it also doesn't have. Have you considered a career in politics? Sony have done a great job bringing vast amounts of PS1 games to the VC; contrast this to Nintendo with N64 titles. Add to that, you pay once and can play on PS3, PSP and Vita. What's not to love? Regarding quality of emulation, you'll no doubt pick out some examples to try and make a point while the rest of the world doesn't give a crap. The emulation is altogether excellent; the games I play on Vita run great; better in some cases!

Yup, that's the only way the Gamepad will continue to exist. No way are they going with a new one like was suggested by @Dcubed. And because it'll be optional, we may as well kiss goodbye any heavy in-game dependence on it next generation beyond a second screen.

I still have no idea why you think it's coming with a Gamepad. I mean, to include the Gamepad would be akin to the next Xbox being bundled with Kinect again. Just...why? Nobody is clamouring for it, it hasn't revolutionised anything, yet everyone who just wants the next console would have to stomach the cost of it. Nintendo would be repeating a really bad mistake. Just make an optional second screen solution with their next handheld like Sony have done with the Vita. Nobody cares if the technology is worse than whatever the Gamepad uses. What people care about is cost and value for money.

The old gamepad may somehow work with it, but I strongly doubt they will make another expensive tablet style gamepad like they have done with the Wii U. They'd be absolutely mad to go with something that proved unpopular and expensive yet again. They also hardly made use of it beyond a second screen.

You think the next home console will have a Gamepad?

I think this highlights a misunderstanding of the current situation - 'every game doesn't need voice chat' is pretty much irrelevant to the modern gamer. As everyone who broadens their horizons beyond Nintendo knows, voice chat is incorporated at the OS level on other consoles; it's not something developers have to deliberate on whether to include. Because really, your only 3 options are OS level chat, game level chat, or no game chat - the latter just means people have to use separate platforms to chat. It's purely a convenience debate. People can voice chat anyway, Nintendo are just making it awkward to do so. Bringing in deaf gamers though, that is some weird as shit point you're making. You could argue that the 99.999999% of games that have graphics as opposed to sound only are excluding blind people.

Isn't it easy for parents to just enable parental controls?