Cube Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 France got in there first it seems. Stupid Environmentalists: "With 10 billion [euros], we could build 10,000MW offshore windfarms, delivering electricity for 7.5 million European households," said Jan Vande Putte of Greenpeace International. "Governments should not waste our money on a dangerous toy which will never deliver any useful energy. Instead, they should invest in renewable energy which is abundantly available, not in 2080 but today." When will they realise that these non-renewable sources do fuck all to help the environmen. In fact, its a waste of materials on something that does nothing. The power plants, due to the amount of time it takes them to "boot up", still need to be kept running in the background, for when, for example windfarms, there is no wind blowing. The ONLY reason these things are built for are: 1. To shut up "envoronmentalists" 2. To shut up the EU. 10,000MW offshore windfarms would be: 1. A massive eyesore 2. A massive waste of materials and fuel to build them 3. Would NOT provide any extra power that will actually be useful. EDIT: Fusion, on the other hand is reliable and always-on. Therefore it can replace many power plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 17, 2006 Author Share Posted June 17, 2006 Windfarms are hugely inefficient. It's not even THAT great for the environment, as they're dangerous to birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 But what aboot my idea... ? Anyway, if they do put up nuclear plants, it had better be near places like Doncaster and not near Manchester, or I'm just gonna have to go ahead and move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin von Snikbah Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Heating up gas to 100 million celcius should be no problem at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMat Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Why do people care about mars so bad? visit some other desolate planet for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 That's not possible for 2 reasons. Firstly, it's either too cold, or secondly the gravitational pull of the planet means that if we so much as go within 100,000 miles of the thing we'll get ripped apart because the gravitation gradient is so great that the pull at our feet will be up to 100 times greater than the pull at our heads. If we actually, by some freak of nature, manage to land on jupiter, well good luck not getting killed in one of the many giant storm systems on the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle64 Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 I really hope this fusion thing works. If things pan out, we've got ourselves a readily available nuclear power source that produces a tiny fraction of the nuclear waste produced by current fission plants. There's a lot of international development time and money going into this. Unfortuently even if it works, it could still be decades before we can start considering the possibility of fusion becoming a main source of our power. I think we should start looking a bio-fuels in the mean time, as well continuing to develop wind and wave generator technology. I also happen to think that micro-generation is a very good idea, but without significant support will be slow to spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtle Squad Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 I really really hope we suceed in nuclear fusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 You mean Nuclear Fission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Heating up gas to 100 million celcius should be no problem at all! Someone's managed double that. http://www.livescience.com/technology/060308_sandia_z.html They just need to work out what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergrunch Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 What we need is a cold fusion power plant... Anyway, I believe this research is necessary, and if it does not serve a "useful" purpose, then it should still be carried out for what is perhaps "academic" (if not scientific) merit alone. Also interesting is the Indian "red rain"; rain that fell in 2001 that contained weird, unidentifiable (and thus possibly alien) cells. They appear to be almost a cross between prokaryotes and eukaryotes, backing up the alien theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 17, 2006 Author Share Posted June 17, 2006 Also interesting is the Indian "red rain"; rain that fell in 2001 that contained weird, unidentifiable (and thus possibly alien) cells. They appear to be almost a cross between prokaryotes and eukaryotes, backing up the alien theory. That sounds very interesting. Can you provide any more information about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergrunch Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 http://www.curdrice.com/ranga/red_rain.html has some stuff on it. It was in the news recently (I first saw it in New Scientist) because they started to analyse the cells last year. Other proposed theroies have so far been a little ridiculous- such as "they are the bood cells of a swarm of bats hit by a meteroite". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fierce_LiNk Posted June 17, 2006 Author Share Posted June 17, 2006 That's great stuff, Supergrunch. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorrit Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 http://www.curdrice.com/ranga/red_rain.html has some stuff on it. It was in the news recently (I first saw it in New Scientist) because they started to analyse the cells last year. Other proposed theroies have so far been a little ridiculous- such as "they are the bood cells of a swarm of bats hit by a meteroite". Wow, that's really interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin von Snikbah Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Someone's managed double that.http://www.livescience.com/technology/060308_sandia_z.html They just need to work out what happened. Holy crap! Bring on Star Trek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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