solitanze Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 As we know, Nintendo has created their new console CODENAME: Revolution, with developers being able to easily develop games quickly and cheaply compared to developing games on the other next generation systems such as PS3 & XBOX 360. Do you think, Revolution maybe likely to be region free, and if so, will this have any implications on the ease of development of games for the Revolution and would there be any effects on the performance on the controller and Nintendos WIFI service, would NTSC users be able to verse PAL users on the internet gaming service Nintendo provides? I'd like it to be region free as it would mean that we'd finally be able to play quality import titles on the Revolution without having to make modifications to the system, own an NTSC system or use a device such the Freeloader to make foreign games operate and gives consumers even more of an incentive to buy Revolution instead of PS3 which was confirmed recently to be region free.
ndreamer Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 i hope so, i like the freedom to buy games where ever you want and epecialy get games that are no longer or never avaliable in your country. the gamecube however was a good import console a free loader is not that expansive and i ended up saving more then the freeloader was worth anyway. it whould be great if it was like the ds but it whould be okay for me if datel or someone released a freeloader like disk for the console early on.
Charlie Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Sony have announced that the PS3 is going to be region free, so I think Nintendo might follow...
KKOB Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 all will be revealed at e3 methinks, i hope that it will play GC games from any region as well as the rev games not being region encoded-i mean sonys doin it with the ps3 so why not nintendo when everyone knows that their biggest fans would love to import all the brilliant crazy japanese only games.
ShadowV7 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 I really want it to be region free,PS3 is quite a few Xbox 360 games are region free.It will be stupid not to and mean's we can get games earlier.Maybe that's one of the other little secrets.
Teppo Holmqvist Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Do you think, Revolution maybe likely to be region free, and if so, will this have any implications on the ease of development of games for the Revolution. Nope. Nintendo has been really harsh about importing stuff and it even tried to sue US companies about selling used Nintendo games. They also sued Lik-Sang for same reason, but that failed miserably. Virtual console games, however, will be region free. Or at least Jim Merrick said so in Meristation interview month before he was fired. ...incentive to buy Revolution instead of PS3 which was confirmed recently to be region free. Actually both Xbox and Xbox360 were touted as region free, but nothing actually forces game developers to make their games region free. There are some games for both systems that work in every region without modchip, but most are region protected. So I wouldn't really count on that all Playstation 3 games would be region free. But it is good thing that developers have this possiblity if they want to use it.
Nintendork Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 I vote freedom, the DS has been a huge success despite being region free.. I see the Revolution going the same way as it clearly hasan't been detrimental to the success of the DS. Average consumers are happy buying games in their home region and Nintendo has kept a small percentage of hardcore gamers happy by allowing them to import some games a few months early for as little as £5 more. They'd be fools not to, and I can't see a decent reason why not.. if anything it would lower production costs and streamline the manafacture of the consoles and porting of games. Would there be problems with regard to playing a Japanese game on a UK Revolution if it was 'region free' because I know there may be differences in our televison sets? Isn't UK standard PAL for TVs? and America NTSC? or is this just a code for the console?
ShadowV7 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Nope. Nintendo has been really harsh about importing stuff and it even tried to sue US companies about selling used Nintendo games. They also sued Lik-Sang for same reason, but that failed miserably. It was Sony that done that was it not? And they tried to sue Lik-Sang and import shop's because people were importing the PSP.And if they were that harsh they wouldn't make the DS region free and if they where harsh they would do something so import copies of Wi-Fi games wouldn't work.I think it being Region Free is more than likely.
Nintendork Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Well Nintendo of Europe copies of Animal Crossing recieve exclusive goodies on the WiFi.. and we're still waiting to see what happens with voice chat on hunters. But for the most part it is 'functional' and just minorly crippled.
glucoseaddict Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 They'd be fools not to, and I can't see a decent reason why not.. The only reason I can think of is that NOE would become redundant (:p) - they are so fricken slow wrt release dates etc. Im all for region-free. I never was much of an importer but since the DS came along I rarely buy games in local shops - I get most from the States online. Would there be problems with regard to playing a Japanese game on a UK Revolution if it was 'region free' because I know there may be differences in our televison sets? Isn't UK standard PAL for TVs? and America NTSC? You're right there with PAL/NTSC. Main advantage of a PS3 being region-free is because of HDTVs - PAL/NTSC region encoding is done away with.
ShadowV7 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Or if you have a PAL/NTSC TV it won't be a problem either.
Nintendork Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 I think mine does actually, I've seen NTSC on the scart manual setup. Sweet..
Kurtle Squad Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Sony have announced that the PS3 is going to be region free, so I think Nintendo might follow... If Nintendo do this then they are smarter than I thought...What would also be great would be for NOE to get a kick up the arse and sort out EVERYTHING about it: Game releases, Advertising, Websites, WFC.
Teppo Holmqvist Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 It was Sony that done that was it not? And they tried to sue Lik-Sang and import shop's because people were importing the PSP. If I remember correctly, used games debacle happened during late NES-era. It isn't really that surprising as Nintendo used some really nasty tactics to sell their games those days. Some of the more classic tricks were forcing 3rd parties work only for Nintendo and blackmailing retailers to buy two unpopular games to get one popular game. It looks, though, that I remembered incorrectly why Nintendo sued Lik-Sang. Nintendo sued Lik-Sang in 2002 for selling GBA Flash Linker that made it possible for you to make backups (read: pirate) your games. Lik-Sang failed and was forced to pull Flash linker from sale. SOURCE: http://www.out-law.com/page-3659 I think it being Region Free is more than likely. What you people don't understand that most game companies don't want region free games. Regionlocks are there because they make it easier to control market and maximize profits by getting each region to pay estimated maximum price for the product.
ShadowV7 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 It's no wonder Nintendo tried to sue them ,it's was pirating.Anyway developers are still going to get a huge profit,they just make people in Eu pay more than the game's in the US.If a lot of developer's don't want it to be region free they would of spoken up more and the PS3,Xbox 360 games wouldn't be Region free.People have already imported this generation so I hardly think developer's are still going to complain after a few years.
Nintendork Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Teppo Holmqvist, is definitely correct.. but Nintendo of Europe are the ones who make the most profit per game, that's obvious- but they're not making decisions. Nintendo of Japan are aware that they are going to blow Japan away, they make the decisions. and it won't have any bad effect on them. I'm still leaning towards region free. Some games can simply be contained by language barriers if needs be. Free market = incentive to get the games out asap.
ShadowV7 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 NoE does make quite a profit because of the game's being £40 in stores and only £30 max in the US stores.NoJ won't care of it's region free because at the end of the day they will have majority of the game's first.
mario114 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 I hope it is, maybe then they won't make us wait so long, (I never understand why nintendo UK never jioned with noa, we have to wait 6 month for them to translate a game to german, when theres already a version in English, just waiting for us to buy).
ShadowV7 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Yea a bit annoying when people the UK have to wait for the translation It could be why we are seeing the Revolution in Eu (and probably US) in the same month or close to each other.
Tellyn Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 They have two choices: use region free and have a happy EU market that don't go to buy PS3 because Revo games and the console takes too long to get over here, or they don't use region free and the Revolution receives the three-shelf fate of the GameCube in Europe.
ShadowV7 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 It's only the Nintendo veterans like us that will import game's anyway.The average gamer with a Rev will buy in Europe,that mean's everyone is happy and we don't get screwed.Where as it's locked ,wait month's for game's and then we go buy another console.Choice is pretty obvious.
21st century cowboy Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 It annoys me with the whole translating games into European languages because are version is never changed from the American version. 'Color' being the obvious indicator. And no, I don't think the Revo will be region free.
Nintendork Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Actually it is irrelevant whether the game is changed. It has to be inspected before it is launched in Europe by the authorities to ensure that it does not contain any dodgy content. Remember translations into various languages have to be checked too. It is to protect us from such trivialities: Just because America says it is safe for 15 year olds does not necesarily mean that everyone in Europe who is 15 is safe to buy it.. and I think such ratings are important. Though they do need to speed the process up.
Tellyn Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Then why don't they slap an 18 on it and be done with it? besides, that is a pixelated woman's backside, that's allowed on primetime TV and Pampers adverts, I don't see why it can't be allowed in games. It's fine as long as they don't show genitals and breasts.
ShadowV7 Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Kinda stupid checking content though when there's already an age rating to restrict people.They didn't exactly od much for GTA and MGS3.Look at TV adverts you see people's butt's.
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