ultrajamie Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 couple of quick Q's as i have been offered some SD cards cheap... revolution uses SD cards doesn;t it? also, iwata stated at GDC that you can plug almost any usb storage in to the 2 usb ports on the back... would it be better to get some kind of usb-based mass storage device? any advantage to either way? i think using plug in SD cards (under the flap on 'top' / side) will be neater.... the rev is too beautiful to have nasty wires and plug in boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestneb Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 how would the revolution be powered then? and how would it send signal to display devices? although, having said that, having wireless options would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 In short UltraJ, we don't quite know yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal_9Million Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I would love if I could connect my external hdd to the console. I could download bare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendork Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Don't buy anything for a system that isn't out yet.. remember all those twazzoks who bought £50 games and then didn't get a 360 on launch despite their pre-order.. and had £200 worth of games and accesories for 2 months.. unlucky! 1st of all we don't know how big saves are going to be.. they should be relatively small, I mean any software engineer can make a game save small, even a few Kbs.. if they use .xml technology for saves it'd be even smaller (though hackable) I think the GameCube memory cards will be used to save games.. they're relatively cheap and will store plenty of game saves all at once. For downloaded content we don't know how big the roms will be- and we certainly don't know whether we will be able to afford as many as we desire. I think you're thinking rather prematurely, I will probably use one of the USB flash dongles to compliment the on board 512mb.. ideally I would juggle between a GameCube card and the onboard memory for all of the games. My suspicion is that they will not make the technolgy backwards compatible like they did when they upgraded to the PS2 memory cards. GameCube memory cards will only work with GameCube games, and this makes it easy for people to upgrade from GameCube to Revolution smoothly. The 512mb on board will be for Revolution saves, but also for developpers as a slow bandwidth ram. this means gamers can have the HD experience of auto saves that xbox owners have become accustomed to, but without the hard disc. Then the SD cards and perhspas USB slots will be used for downloadable content, because if Nintendo wants to make the 512mb available for developpers in certain situations it shouldn't really be full all the time.. game saves would only take several megs if well engineered. If Nintendo is serious about offering developpers access to the 512mb slow ram then they don't want it filled up with N64 games, for instance games like blinx the time detective was the first game to use the hard drive to go back in time and stuff, it was quite awesome and wouldn't have been possible without that extra space. I think they'll include generic drivers for USB storage, they'd be fools not to because they are cheap and can go on the PC/Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrajamie Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 In short UltraJ, we don't quite know yet. but SD CARDS are confirmed, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndreamer Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 yeah sd cards are defintly in there so it should be safe to buy those, however it's very possible that the revolution may want to format the card to work with the console. hopfully it's true that usb drives do work, i have few 200gig external drives and a few thumb drives that whould be perfect for downloading games, saves ect on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Unless they're really really cheap don't feel a rush to buy SD cards now. You can get 1GB for £25 and these things rarely go up in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrajamie Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 yeah sd cards are defintly in there so it should be safe to buy those, however it's very possible that the revolution may want to format the card to work with the console. hopfully it's true that usb drives do work, i have few 200gig external drives and a few thumb drives that whould be perfect for downloading games, saves ect on. thanks a lot! If Nintendo is serious about offering developpers access to the 512mb slow ram then they don't want it filled up with N64 games, for instance games like blinx the time detective was the first game to use the hard drive to go back in time and stuff, it was quite awesome and wouldn't have been possible without that extra space. presumably then, prince of persia on the PS2 and Gamecube couldn;t offer the exact same gameplay features? (not to mention a game that was actually good) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamba Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 yeah sd cards are defintly in there so it should be safe to buy those, however it's very possible that the revolution may want to format the card to work with the console. hopfully it's true that usb drives do work, i have few 200gig external drives and a few thumb drives that whould be perfect for downloading games, saves ect on. Got a source for that? Just thought this was speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrajamie Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 Got a source for that? Just thought this was speculation no... they deff said it last e3. i just wanted to be sure things haven't changed since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorrit Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I mean any software engineer can make a game save small, even a few Kbs.. if they use .xml technology for saves it'd be even smaller (though hackable) Uhm, no. XML takes much larger space then an optimized binary output, XML includes alot of information not necessary (but it makes it nice to look at and easy to read) and is a text format and not a binary one. And sure, most game saves can be small by smart thinking and compression, but for some games it is impossible(Animal Crossing for example, I doubt that save is smaller than 100Kbs, most likely 256 or something, and large non-linear RPGs for example, those saves can be rather huge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestneb Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Got a source for that? Just thought this was speculation Nintendo stated it last E3. as said though, don't buy for the rev until you KNOW what you want to be buying. 1)once you know what you need you may be able to invest in hardware that is more approriate (for example, what size SD cards the revo will support). 2)things tend to get cheaper as time passes - tv's are due to go down because of the world cup (unsure if this is during due to increased demand, after due to overstock, or possibly both - but I'm told they will drop round the world cup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrajamie Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 Nintendo stated it last E3. as said though, don't buy for the rev until you KNOW what you want to be buying. 1)once you know what you need you may be able to invest in hardware that is more approriate (for example, what size SD cards the revo will support). 2)things tend to get cheaper as time passes - tv's are due to go down because of the world cup (unsure if this is during due to increased demand, after due to overstock, or possibly both - but I'm told they will drop round the world cup) well if someone offers me a tv for a fiver around the world cup... i'll be sure to buy that and not a couple of very cheap SD cards for my rev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demuwan Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 well if someone offers me a tv for a fiver around the world cup... i'll be sure to buy that and not a couple of very cheap SD cards for my rev. A TV for a FIVER??? dont hold your breath mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrajamie Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 A TV for a FIVER??? dont hold your breath mate! That was my point... you know, sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demuwan Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 That was my point... you know, sarcasm oh I see MY BAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrajamie Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 oh I see MY BAD no worries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I think I remembered someone saying that the 'USB ports expanded the possibilities for saving media infinitly' or something like that, pointing towards use of USB media and possibly even USB hard drives. Can't remember who said it and where he/she said it, so I'm being useless now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 For the HDD issue using any USB HDD could be possible, Operating systems such as Linux and Unix as well as windows to some degree have pre programmed Generic Drivers, If nintendo write some generic drivers for revolution then you should be able to use any USB HDD, disadvantage is that the acess todrive might not work at full speed. If nintendo do not create some generic drivers then I'm sure someone will come up with a mass storage solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestneb Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 well if someone offers me a tv for a fiver around the world cup... i'll be sure to buy that and not a couple of very cheap SD cards for my rev. deal, I happen to have a tv going for £5, plus P&P. terms and conditions apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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