Retro_Link Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 There's no point suddenly 'mocking' press conferences... Nintendo did them every year until last, so they must have seen some advantage to them.
Goron_3 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 But the people who actually went to the Nintendo booth on the show floor did come out all positive. It's just people on the Internet who feel it's all about the conference who did not. Shame that guy is misreporting the news. You're missing the point, completely. Okay, here's a starting point. Imagine 1000 journalists live blogging a conference in a room full of publishers and developers. They are watching a conference when a company X are detailing their upcoming plans and making some big announcements. It's very easy for Company X to directly communicate their strategy to these people, who can spread the word instantly through twitter/websites etc. This is BEFORE they've even got to playing the games. It's organised and easy to get the message across. It generates excitement/hyped but also a message to the industry. With last year's direct, did Nintendo make it clear what their message was? Most people saw it as a Wii sequel machine. Even to this day people are saying 'what are Nintendo doing'. I listened to a recent NWR podcast and they were all saying that they loved Nintendo's show floor experience last year but they left E3 with no clue what Nintendo were doing/thinking with the Wii U. Of course, i'm not saying the same will apply this year, as last year could be an example of Nintendo experimenting, whilst they 'fine tune' those decisions this year. It seems more multidimensional this year, which is great news. The interesting stuff will come from how they can show that they are fixing their reputation with western gamers and how they plan to do it. Smash and MK will help with the Nintendo crowd but they can seriously sell another 10-15 Wii U's with some forward thinking.
Ronnie Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Last year's E3 direct was filled with games and no extra fluff, I genuinely thought they showed off more than they could in a presentation. The pleasing thing about all this is that Nintendo seem very invested in this year's E3 as they seem to be going all out (lack of conference aside), let's hope that means they're confident in what they have to show and announce. I listened to a recent NWR podcast and they were all saying that they loved Nintendo's show floor experience last year but they left E3 with no clue what Nintendo were doing/thinking with the Wii U. They're releasing great games for their new HD console, that's probably what Nintendo were doing/thinking. Really really doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.
Goron_3 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Last year's E3 direct was filled with games and no extra fluff, I genuinely thought they showed off more than they could in a presentation. The pleasing thing about all this is that Nintendo seem very invested in this year's E3 as they seem to be going all out (lack of conference aside), let's hope that means they're confident in what they have to show and announce. It's interesting they used the term 'building upon' in their statement... Man, how cool would it be if they let us download a Smash demo during E3 Edit. Yeah I can imagine their 500 page strategy dossier for the Wii U which just consisted of 'Release great games'. Bet that worked a treat...oh wait
yesteryeargames Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Iwata should resign I have had enough , as much as I like the man I don't think he is right any more . We need a ruthless business man who would not waste a chance like e3.
Serebii Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 Iwata should resign I have had enough , as much as I like the man I don't think he is right any more . We need a ruthless business man who would not waste a chance like e3. What are you on about?
Ronnie Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Iwata should resign I have had enough , as much as I like the man I don't think he is right any more . We need a ruthless business man who would not waste a chance like e3. How are Nintendo 'wasting' E3? It sounds like they're going to have a bigger presence than ever!
Goron_3 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Ah, I've just realised that this is on a Tuesday...literally perfect! I was a bit worried about what to do now that I'm finishing Uni but it's nice to see that I'll be occupied soon after. What are you on about? That would have been the perfect time to use 'I'm going home' gif
Serebii Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 How are Nintendo 'wasting' E3? It sounds like they're going to have a bigger presence than ever! A presence that is even more beneficial for the consumer at home, thanks to things like Treehouse Live. Wouldn't be surprised if we got a plethora of Developer Directs again, too
Zechs Merquise Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 I'm disappointed they are not returning to the live conference format - lets face it, it makes them look like 'also rans'. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait. But I get the feeling that Nintendo are on the back foot and it seems like they are retreating.
Grazza Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Although I like a stage show, it does sound as though Nintendo realises a normal Nintendo Direct is not quite enough for E3. I honestly think the Digital Event will be well-scripted, funny and entertaining. With Zelda almost confirmed and so many hints dropped about Metroid, as long as the actual games themselves look good, this could be an awful lot better than many of their live shows.
Serebii Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 I'm disappointed they are not returning to the live conference format - lets face it, it makes them look like 'also rans'. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait. But I get the feeling that Nintendo are on the back foot and it seems like they are retreating. That's what they want you to think
Ronnie Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Hopefully their booth is as amazing as last year's too. One look at that would have convinced anyone they were far from giving up on E3. I also agree the Digital Event thing seems like it'll be much more theatrical than last year's Direct.
Ashley Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 That's what they want you to think No, they want us to think they're being "alternative" and "breaking new ground" (the press release is cringe-worthy). What we, and others, are thinking is that they simply are admitting they can't compete (/will be outshone/have no confidence in themselves - delete as appropriate).
Serebii Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 No, they want us to think they're being "alternative" and "breaking new ground" (the press release is cringe-worthy). What we, and others, are thinking is that they simply are admitting they can't compete (/will be outshone/have no confidence in themselves - delete as appropriate). You would be mistaken, sir.
Ville Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Hmm, not bad. No conference, but at least they're expanding on what they had last year. Also, the Smash tournament is a great idea, perfect way to create more anticipation for the launch of the 3DS version. Will be quite interesting...
Ashley Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 You would be mistaken, sir. Oh yes I forgot that you: a) know everything Nintendo is doing, plans to do and everything all of their employees think b) know what every person in the world thinks Excuse me. How could I excuse the facts?
Serebii Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 Oh yes I forgot that you: a) know everything Nintendo is doing, plans to do and everything all of their employees think b) know what every person in the world thinks Excuse me. How could I excuse the facts? I meant that you were mistaken with your belief, not with what others were thinking :p
Ashley Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 My belief that what, others are thinking Nintendo is basically waving an E3 white flag?
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 My view is that the traditional conference is getting a bit stale and pointless, unless you're going to unleash new hardware onto the scene. Do you need a whole stage and staff to showcase games anyway?
Dcubed Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 No live conference!? I can't believe that they'd truly make that same mistake again! Even if they have nothing to show, a show of showmanship makes ALL of the difference! The reaction to last year's E3 showing was terrible! How could they really think that doing the exact same thing again will go any differently!? Are they just trying save money? (Unlikely since they're still doing stage events and booths at E3 itself...) Cowering away is not the answer! Nintendo Direct is not a panecia for everything! It shouldn't be one or the other! GAH!!! WHHHYYYYYYY!!! The live reactions and stage flubs make all of the difference! A pre-recorded video can't replicate that! How stupid are these people!?
liger05 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 How is that logical? You do realise that the amount they showed in the E3 Direct last year is on par with what they'd show in a conference. It was just shorter because they didn't waste 10+ minutes on gameplay demos, trendy guest stars and pauses for applause. When I say enough I mean nothing press conference worthy and I think Nintendo feel like that also hence the no conference. My view is that the traditional conference is getting a bit stale and pointless, unless you're going to unleash new hardware onto the scene. Do you need a whole stage and staff to showcase games anyway? Never stopped them before.
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) No live conference!? I can't believe that they'd truly make that same mistake again! Even if they have nothing to show, a show of showmanship makes ALL of the difference! The reaction to last year's E3 showing was terrible! How could they really think that doing the exact same thing again will go any differently!? Are they just trying save money? (Unlikely since they're still doing stage events and booths at E3 itself...) Cowering away is not the answer! Nintendo Direct is not a panecia for everything! It shouldn't be one or the other! GAH!!! WHHHYYYYYYY!!! The live reactions and stage flubs make all of the difference! A pre-recorded video can't replicate that! How stupid are these people!? Never stopped them before. Prior to Nintendo Directs. I just want to see games - not 60-something Japanese men making a fool of themselves on stage, and some random Canadian geek dude talk shhhite. Show me a game reel. Edited April 29, 2014 by King_V Automerged Doublepost
Ashley Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 My view is that the traditional conference is getting a bit stale and pointless, unless you're going to unleash new hardware onto the scene. Do you need a whole stage and staff to showcase games anyway? As a way of showcasing games, sure it's not the only solution. As a way of showcasing yourself as a company, it is still pretty much the strongest and most effective method there is. Like it or not, E3 is attended by more than just hardcore fans and specialist press and by not having a stage presence it will easily get overlooked. When you consider that Ubisoft and other smaller companies still have them, Nintendo's approach seems to be very narrow minded. Big showy events are part of the TV business, film business and many others. There might well be more effective ways of reaching out to fans but these are trade shows.
Falcon_BlizZACK Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 As a way of showcasing games, sure it's not the only solution. As a way of showcasing yourself as a company, it is still pretty much the strongest and most effective method there is. Like it or not, E3 is attended by more than just hardcore fans and specialist press and by not having a stage presence it will easily get overlooked. When you consider that Ubisoft and other smaller companies still have them, Nintendo's approach seems to be very narrow minded. Big showy events are part of the TV business, film business and many others. There might well be more effective ways of reaching out to fans but these are trade shows. Fair point.
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