Tales Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Right, sorry for being away but I've been at work from 12-9:30 so obviously haven't had a chance to post in this thread. I initially thought I was redirected to Yvonne as that's what my PM said but Jimbob has since told me that I was roleblocked so if Tales didn't roleblock me, that's a third roleblocker we have. Need Jimbob to respond to my PM to see exactly what's going on. And now I'm going to read through all the posts I've missed. It was me who roleblocked you. Because of what you wrote earlier I thought I didn't succeeded so I didn't mention it until I knew more. I think this is very interesting since I initially forgot to send a target and sent it 3 hours before the day started, yet I got priority. So most likely it was a matter of who sent target first. And we all know who is the last ones to send targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I think this is very interesting since I initially forgot to send a target and sent it 3 hours before the day started, yet I got priority. So most likely it was a matter of who sent target first. Priority has absolutely nothing to do with it. The "who sent targets in" only matters when there is no logical way around the situation, and that there is no set order list (eg redirectors before roleblockers in case a roleblocker targeted a redirector that targeted that roleblocker). A roleblocker targeting another roleblocker is pretty straight forward, and if they both target each other then it doesn't really matter. My current suspicion list: Sheikah Tales EEVIL (although this is completely tiny). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Ok, I've had a more thorough read through and I don't trust Animal. I want your character, results, everything please. I have a very good reason to suspect you are evil. Sheikah, you need to stop being so aggressive as it makes you look scummy even if you aren't! Vote: Animal Yeah, well, what ya gonna do. :p No offence Cube, but I know you're wrong about me so I've no reason to trust your other suspicions. Edited August 2, 2012 by Sheikah Automerged Doublepost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Priority has absolutely nothing to do with it. The "who sent targets in" only matters when there is no logical way around the situation, and that there is no set order list (eg redirectors before roleblockers in case a roleblocker targeted a redirector that targeted that roleblocker). A roleblocker targeting another roleblocker is pretty straight forward, and if they both target each other then it doesn't really matter. My current suspicion list: Sheikah Tales EEVIL (although this is completely tiny). Doesn't matter? He got told he was roleblocked. I wasn't. Of course it matters. There must be a reason why I roleblocked him and not him roleblocking me. Of course the end result is irrelevant, but that's not the point. And in what universe am I suspicous? I never wanted to lynch Jonnas the townie, I tried to convince everyone not to. You dealt the final blow. Come on, put votes on Animal. He basically wrote that he was mafia. Then Peeps and then Cube and we have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbob Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Day ends midnight tonight. @The Peeps, check your PM's Edited August 2, 2012 by Jimbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Doesn't matter? He got told he was roleblocked. I wasn't. Of course it matters. I'm under the impression that he was redirected and roleblocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yes people, Animal to be lynched. Don't listen to Cube. Cube has been the most suspicious this game (strong deliberation on casting the final vote but doing it anyway, voting me based on 'suspicion' DESPITE him voting Jonnas himself, and just generally posting contrived theories to avoid voting the most logical player). Vote Animal everyone and I will reveal everything tomorrow. There's your incentive. mr-Paul knows I'm town now by the looks of things. Let's go @Nintendohnut, @EEVILMURRAY, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I like how Sheikah is using how he guilted me into voting for Jonnas as a reason for my suspicion. Also, how it "I will vote for him" classed as "strong deliberation"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Guilted? No sir. You were going to vote him of your own accord. I'll Remove Vote for now. I'll vote for Jonnas just before 5 unless there is a good reason not to do so. The only reluctance you had and the reason I had to nag you to honour this post is because you didn't want to look guilty by placing the final vote. NB note your activity levels have returned to normal (ie. very frequently posting) since after this deadline that stopped you from voting him the first time. In fact I'm pretty sure you only casted the final vote in the end as you were trapped - the voting deadline extended, it would have been obvious you were abstaining and not busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 You said the following: You didn't consider this to be some sort of roleblock and had to ask for clarification? I might expect something like this from a mafia newbie, but not you Peeps. You're more than experienced to read between the lines. I didn't consider it to be a roleblock at all, I just assumed I couldn't target Yvonne because he was dead. Now that you point it out, it does look like I could've been roleblocked. Perhaps, but the added "I was later told I was roleblocked" is most unusual. But this bit is intriguing: What else do you need clearing up? Because I was still under the impression that I was only redirected and not roleblocked, I needed it clearing up. You've done that for me now though. It was me who roleblocked you. Because of what you wrote earlier I thought I didn't succeeded so I didn't mention it until I knew more. I think this is very interesting since I initially forgot to send a target and sent it 3 hours before the day started, yet I got priority. So most likely it was a matter of who sent target first. And we all know who is the last ones to send targets. I sent my target way before you if that's the case. If you remember I was REDIRECTED to Yvonne, so it isn't a case of which of us has priority over the other because I didn't end up targeting you at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Before I do anything I want to know this: @Cube, why do you trust Animal so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 --- Well I still think Tales is mafia as I know I'm town, which means Animal is town too in my eyes. If Sheikah is mafia too, then it's a standard mafia play as Sheikah was leaning hard on lynching Jonnas while Tales was against it. Classic ploy to get a townie lynched and make them both look good if you play it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEVILMURRAY Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Ok, I've had a more thorough read through and I don't trust Animal. I want your character, results, everything please. I have a very good reason to suspect you are evil. If this reason is something you'd like to share with the rest of the class that would be just super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 TBH, I can't be bothered arguing any more. You're likely mafia (along with Tales), but there's no way to convince the town that you are so I won't try until someone brings proof. @Cube, why do you trust Animal so much? I'll be completely honest: It's just a feeling, and from the way people are posting. I'm surprised you don't recognise the style of Sheikah's arguments. It's also strange how Tales and Sheikah are completely ignoring two double voters - which is more improbable than two town roleblockers. Gives me the impression that they know both roleblockers are town and don't want to draw attention to the two double voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 You just want to shift focus on the double voters so we don't lynch your team mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 --- Well I still think Tales is mafia as I know I'm town, which means Animal is town too in my eyes. If Sheikah is mafia too, then it's a standard mafia play as Sheikah was leaning hard on lynching Jonnas while Tales was against it. Classic ploy to get a townie lynched and make them both look good if you play it right. Well this is pretty much confirming for me that you and Cube are probably Mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintendohnut Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 TBH, I can't be bothered arguing any more. You're likely mafia (along with Tales), but there's no way to convince the town that you are so I won't try until someone brings proof. I'll be completely honest: It's just a feeling, and from the way people are posting. I'm surprised you don't recognise the style of Sheikah's arguments. Oh no, I really do. And I have to say I'm getting the same feeling from Animal. I also can't believe that, despite EEVIL's complete lack of contribution, The Peeps is apparently more suspicious than him. They both have double votes, and seeing as Peeps' action are clearly verifiable, and the fact that a redirector doesn't help anyone apart from the mafia (because if how confusing they make things), I'd much rather lynch EEVIL than Peeps. But to me, Sheikah is the most suspicious by far. I know I asked him to calm down slightly, and I appreciate that he did so (I really do!), but I also can't help having a sneaking suspicion that his mafia team mates told him something similar on the forum and suggested it was drawing too much attention. But, as ever with these games, that's just me probably reading way too much into a situation. Regardless, I think Sheikah is our best bet today by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 TBH, I can't be bothered arguing any more. You're likely mafia (along with Tales), but there's no way to convince the town that you are so I won't try until someone brings proof. Your acting is terrible. :p You can't convince people that I am what I'm not. You won't find a sausage of evidence on me because I'm town. I'll be completely honest: It's just a feeling, and from the way people are posting. I'm surprised you don't recognise the style of Sheikah's arguments. What style? You claimed I guilted you into voting and I quoted your earlier comment to show you had every intention of voting Jonnas yourself. Except you told me you missed voting him due to a deadline. So tell me, which was it that caused you to vote Jonnas? Yourself (as you initially suggested), or me through 'guilting' you? @Dohnut if I am proven to be Mafia at the end of the game I will spam General shouting that I am a deranged psychopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEVILMURRAY Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I also can't believe that, despite EEVIL's complete lack of contribution, The Peeps is apparently more suspicious than him. They both have double votes, and seeing as Peeps' action are clearly verifiable, and the fact that a redirector doesn't help anyone apart from the mafia (because if how confusing they make things), I'd much rather lynch EEVIL than Peeps. Complete lack of contribution? I've hidden nothing in what I've revealed and I don't see how my actions aren't verifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 lol, If anything good comes out of this game it will be at least that people know the way I post (even when town). It can be difficult when you start because you get judged on how you post yet you don't know the set of criteria people are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbob Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Priority isn't an issue. It doesn't matter who sends a PM in at what time in this mafia game. I finalise actions 1 hour before day end, so if someone wishes to track someone but later another person wishes to block that person, then the action will be blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 @Jimbob Generally it's best not to mention some stuff (like explaining the thing in the first night was filler, saying you sent a PM and what you said just now) and leaving it to speculation. (Even if the stuff is confirming my theory on the priority thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbob Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 @Jimbob Generally it's best not to mention some stuff (like explaining the thing in the first night was filler, saying you sent a PM and what you said just now) and leaving it to speculation. (Even if the stuff is confirming my theory on the priority thing) Ah, right. I'm learning still, i'll remember this. I'll do a vote count shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikah Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Didn't answer my question @Cube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peeps Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 ok we're not going to get anywhere without action... I fully believe the mafia to be at least Shiekah and Tales. Third has to be EEVIL I guess. Vote: Sheikah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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